If you continue to dumb down the game, you will lose half your player base

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Originally Posted by MiaShino

Pffffffffffffffff! So am not the only one who also maybe perhaps occasionally searches the publically available repository of manually compiled spread sheet data. Sometimes I wish I did not.. morbid curiosity hurts..

Not one single fight or flight cast. Request a cat straaaaaiiiight into Confetti doors yummy.

It is always those who refuse to put effort who are the most surprised when the seven other people are sick of having back problems. The same talking heads with the same fricken bad takes one after the other. They are in every. single. one of these threads. Every single one.

No little Timmy if you were the majority no one would be allowed to drive cars anymore.

Seriously? You get fight or flight at level two. Maahhh.. How the heck do you not learn to use fight or flight? You cannot make a game for people like this because the medium was not designed for them. Sports are not for everyone and neither are video games and some are not suited to work with others in team environment.

Edit; Annnnnd no goring blade either. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Request a cat had me wheezing :D
Never heard that one before, now I can never unsee it.

(And no, you are not alone with this. I tend to do it as well when something smells like someone has no clue what they're talking about and blaming others)

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

This is a meme of some sort? Because a solid gray background doesn't say anything, and you're attempt at ?humor? falls flat to those of us who don't follow.

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It’s meant to be a play on the whole “the website that shall not be named” ranking system. Basically, calling him a grey parse player. Just feeding into his stereotype, which is a little unsightly. I assume that is what it correlates to.

Was funny joke. Will steal.

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Originally Posted by Gunn-e

I'm curious about the OP's statement, as a relatively new player (started in Oct 2021). My experience with the whole thing, as I started on a Summoner, was that when I reached just around Shadowbringers or just a little bit before that, I started to really dislike Summoner. I started levelling other jobs because I found it overcomplicated. I don't have enough time to dedicate to the game to learn the somewhat complex mechanics of dungeons and raids AND a skills bar that's like the glossary of an encyclopedia. And then Endwalker dropped (I was still in Shadowbringers) and I hopped back on my Summoner and suddenly it's a love story. We got engaged and married before Endwalker and we're planning on our first kid. Anyways, jokes aside, while I can understand simplification is annoying for hardcore veterans an hardcore challenge-seekers, wouldn't it be ideal if the game offered a mix of complex jobs for the latter, and more simple ones for those who'd rather be a little more casual?

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Summoner was a mish mash from get go. In ARR it was a clone of scholar and scholar a clone if it. Summoner failed to meet expectations for quite some time due the "shared class" mentality. ShB summoner was very hard to master, but once you did it was really fun...you just needed to really focus and stick with it. Do I miss the old summoner....HELL NO. Old summoner was about as jank as you could get with the DOT uptime, the 4 minute rotation and not to mention it was NOT phase transition happy at all....I liked it...until I got to ex/savage content....then it was just infuriating to miss your phoenix phase due to a cutscene. So then you start delaying your summons......this is were people say it was "fun to optimize". No it wasn't. The reason it had such insanely high DPS in ShB was DUE to the jank of the job....it preformed great in more controlled scenario's.....but when you really needed it to preform....you were left thinking when you needed to cast more Ruins before the phase transition.

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Originally Posted by MiaShino

Pffffffffffffffff! So am not the only one who also maybe perhaps occasionally searches the publically available repository of manually compiled spread sheet data. Sometimes I wish I did not.. morbid curiosity hurts..

Not one single fight or flight cast. Request a cat straaaaaiiiight into Confetti doors yummy.

It is always those who refuse to put effort who are the most surprised when the seven other people are sick of having back problems. The same talking heads with the same fricken bad takes one after the other. They are in every. single. one of these threads. Every single one.

No little Timmy if you were the majority no one would be allowed to drive cars anymore.

Seriously? You get fight or flight at level two. Maahhh.. How the heck do you not learn to use fight or flight? You cannot make a game for people like this because the medium was not designed for them. Sports are not for everyone and neither are video games and some are not suited to work with others in team environment.

Edit; Annnnnd no goring blade either. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-for-this-duty

Enjoy.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

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The color is all I needed and as I looked through the rotation all I seen at some point was the programming breaking down. fast blade, fast blade, oh god fast blade, it's faster right? This reminds me of the time I caught a poor friend lagging out and there were at least 5 uncombo'd Coerthan Torments. I was honestly wondering if it were a lowkey secret message that she needed saving from something.

While I'm not a fan of too much dumbing down, trimming the fat is necessary for the longevity of any game like this.
But now "lose half the playerbase" based on what metric exactly?

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

And in wrath of the lich king most people never got farther than the lootship...the expansion which had greater player numbers than any mmo before or since. What's your point?

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Are you referring to most players getting to the midpoint of ICC? That is pretty damn good wouldn’t you think? I’m pretty sure most players at least got to see the Lich King fight if not clear it though. I did and my guild at the time definitely wasn’t the best on the server. You don’t see a difference between most players clearing every raid but the final one and most players not even clearing the first tier in TBC? I don’t think a lot of the player base even killed Prince or Nightbane back then.

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Originally Posted by Rilifane

Request a cat had me wheezing :D
Never heard that one before, now I can never unsee it.

(And no, you are not alone with this. I tend to do it as well when something smells like someone has no clue what they're talking about and blaming others)

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You are most welcome! Hearing the friends say that they are "Requesting a cat under trick attack" slays me eeeevery time. Pretty darn good way to learn that you should fit burst under raid buffs if you ask a Mia.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-for-this-duty

Enjoy.

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By the twelve.. Is there factory for these types? Allagan clones? They all seem to despise healers that deal damage. Bet they go into rage every time they see Glare being cast as Medica 2 is allowed to fall off for more then two milliseconds.

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Originally Posted by MisterNublet

Played WoW, still regard TBC as one of the best early expansions. Vanilla WoW finished off with 8 million. The fact that TBC still gained over 3 million subs is absolutely insane. TBC had an easy entry into the raiding scene, starting off with the 10 man Karazhan. TBC's 25-man raids made it even easier for people to continue up the raid tiers which saw a lot of people raiding.

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I remember the road to getting keyed for T5 and T6 being an excruciating grindy undertaking. There is a reason you don’t see many Champion of the Naaru or Hand of A’dal titles in live. It was definitely an accomplishment.