Please do NOT alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

While this is about armor... can I just say that as a female I'd be pretty embarrassed to be using the WHM staff in the 3.0 shot...Just saying...

http://i.imgur.com/TkXSEwt.jpg

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Why emberassed, if I can ask? It's meant to be a statue-esque piece on the top of the staff. It's not really overtly sexual, at least no more 'sexual' than say, Cloud of Darkness was? To me it's just a piece of nice visual art.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Why emberassed, if I can ask? It's meant to be a statue-esque piece on the top of the staff. It's not really overtly sexual, at least no more 'sexual' than say, Cloud of Darkness was? To me it's just a piece of nice visual art.

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I'd only be embarrassed because it looks like a naked woman (very well endowed) thrusting her chest out - and not like something I think I'd want to show to my child or have them find in my closet. It isn't a bad piece at all - I just would be kind of embarrassed to own something that looked like that if it existed in real life and yep, in the game.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

I'd only be embarrassed because it looks like a naked woman (very well endowed) thrusting her chest out - and not like something I think I'd want to show to my child or have them find in my closet. It isn't a bad piece at all - I just would be kind of embarrassed to own something that looked like that if it existed in real life and yep, in the game.

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You must not like beaches and pools.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

I'd only be embarrassed because it looks like a naked woman (very well endowed) thrusting her chest out - and not like something I think I'd want to show to my child or have them find in my closet. It isn't a bad piece at all - I just would be kind of embarrassed to own something that looked like that if it existed in real life and yep, in the game.

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It looks like a classic Roman or Greek statuette ...

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

(And yes, I know you referred to all gear in the game and not just AF, but that's just a distraction to the issue here. The issue is about iconic Artifact gear.)

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You say that as if there actually is an issue, when in reality, it's people like you MAKING it an issue.

Only in video game clothing fashion could you ever get a hyper conservative and a hyper liberal to agree on something:

Conservative: OMG so LEWD! Cover it up!
Liberal: OMG you're objectifying me! Cover it up!

Meanwhile the moderates are like: "Eh looks horrible compared to [Insert Favorite] gear anyways."

I'd be more embarrassed wearing the Whm hood. The headgear in it's triangular shape just looks awkward as hell to me.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Seriously?

The staff doesn't portray anything but a angel figure. There us nothing sexual about it or even implied.

I think people get a bit over defensive about this kind of stuff. This is overreaching especially when there a good examples like the drg armor to look at instead of a staff with a figure on it.

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Jynx, you have to remember, we live in an age where the works of some of the greatest artists in history have to be covered in an effort to protect...well, I'm not sure who we are protecting, but someone is being protected according to those doing the covering. All manner of sculpture, including Michelangelo's David and heaven knows how many cherubs have been obscured. I'm sure that the figure on the staff would fall into the category of work that some would wish to see covered. We live in a new age of puritanical influence....

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

I'd only be embarrassed because it looks like a naked woman (very well endowed) thrusting her chest out - and not like something I think I'd want to show to my child or have them find in my closet. It isn't a bad piece at all - I just would be kind of embarrassed to own something that looked like that if it existed in real life and yep, in the game.

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Why? Apart from the obvious fact that anatomy is anatomy, what would the problem be with having such a sculpture in your home? How would it in any way damage your child's mind or development to see such a depiction? It's not sexual in any way, it's simply a nude(ish) figure. People really need to start learning to separate nudes (works of art) from sexually charged or explicit material.

I think people are confusing condemnation with embarrassment. Not wanting to show my child or have them find a staff like that doesn't mean I don't find any artistic value with it. I also don't think it would harm them at all -- moreso along the lines of I'd not want them finding our porn collection. The human form is something I don't think should be hidden, and I'm far from puritanical. I do value art and, to be honest, find the actual argument of this thread silly as I see nothing wrong with the female armor in this game - female armor should be different because, well, females are different - even if SE makes silly belly windows to accentuate that difference.

My main point is, I actually like the statue staff // and I find it appealing, especially in the way her arms combine into wings. All I meant was I would be embarrassed to own it due to my own, probably irrational, fear of people thinking I'm into naked sculptures for whatever reason they may deem to believe.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

I think people are confusing condemnation with embarrassment. **snip** All I meant was I would be embarrassed to own it due to my own, probably irrational, fear of people thinking I'm into naked sculptures for whatever reason they may deem to believe.

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My apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying, I understand better now. I will say that in the end, I think you will realize that you ultimately don't really care if people think you are into naked sculptures or whatever, because regardless of what you do, they will think things. The fact that you play an MMORPG already marks you as different.