Simplicity over complexity, time to change.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

Sorry if you don't get to be a special snowflake.

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What, it's not about being special, I'm not a hardcore gamer. I like seeing people with awesome stuff that I know I'll never get, so try again. There needs to be rewards for those who do have the time and effort to play a game all the time. Also, people argue people don't have the time for mmos anymore.... well, sorry but people have just as much time as they did 8 years ago. People who played FFXI 10 years ago, had family, kids, jobs, schooling... Nothing has changed, the only thing that has changed is the amount of people who now play video games compared to 10 years ago. They are the majority now that these game companies are trying to cater to because that's where the money is.

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Originally Posted by Renik

My goal is getting to a point where everyone can enjoy this game equally, you have to understand something, as much as ppl ask for ffxi-2 (i don't think this is the case) this won't be happening, hence we won't steal your fun, instead we want to add some fun for us, the way to achieve this is getting collaboration from both sides, but all i hear is a plain "no to ffxi-2".

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As I said - if you want FFXI, you can go back to the land of dying sun.
I am honest here, it's not possible to cater for everyone wish as some of concepts are just opposite to each other. Yes, you want something for yourself, but it will come with expense of others.
I don't really mind giving something to you, but you *should* understand that it will be given to you based on weighted average approach, and as casuals+hardcore >> roleplayers, you'd better to face reality sooner than later.

The thing that you for some reason treat as hate - is that I'm trying to say to you that wishing for something that will hurt casuals/hardcore in their way of playing this game is pointless, you'll not be given that. As they are much bigger and more important crowd. Your only opportunity lies in something that those groups will not care/bothered about, and locked out by hostility zones, ban on teleports etc are surely not in such list of harmless things.

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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Originally Posted by Azurak

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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I can understand your frustrations here but theres no reason that all types (casual, hardcore, oldschool, w/e) don't have a reasonable request in having an MMO of their type. Realistically this is not something that is easy to accomplish and the groups do conflict with each-other but it can be done in a civil manor with respect to each-others preference of games.

I have no interest in seeing FFXIV die, casual or not. It just doesn't do me any good. I would love it if the game was a better home for me but if it isnt then thats just how it is. I stay or I leave on this basis, I will give feedback regardless.

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Originally Posted by Azurak

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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See you in 10-15 years.

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Originally Posted by Azurak

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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SE can always push the game in an interesting direction. There are some good parts in the game as well as bad parts so I don't think the game is in a "dying" state right now. I honestly hope it doesn't die (I want that story to continue), but I do hope it get's more interesting. Remember that FFXI started with just Shadow Lord and not much to do, with Zilart and CoP really getting the ball rolling. They can inject a lot of new things into the expansion.

As well, they have thrown a bone here and there like the animus/novus quests and some flutters of horizontal progression (sanded/oiled soldiery and High Allagan gear can be mixed and matched).

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Originally Posted by Azurak

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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No way it'll die soon.
Game just gets better and better with every patch and i see more and more returnee to it)

PS. BTW, your list are the same for wow, for most part even for vanilla wow (sans insta teleports, but most think it was a bless when they&fast mounts were introduced)... and look where wow now.

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Originally Posted by Azurak

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too. :)

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Wow, what an absolutely fantastic attitude.

Haha. But the smiley face means we arent serious.

Anyhow, the Japanese general discussion have a similar topic to this. Many pages thick too.

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Originally Posted by Azurak

Haha. But the smiley face means we arent serious.

Anyhow, the Japanese general discussion have a similar topic to this. Many pages thick too.

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Not surprised, it's been 12(?) years since FFXI and there's been a lot of progress in the MMO genre. There's no point in being restricted from existing possibilities only because FFXIV is a new MMO in a sense and the ARR revamp has only been around for nearly a year.