Thematic issues. Why all the sci fi.

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Originally Posted by Basteala

Part 2 because character limits still suck.

Now for Alexandrian Technology...it's made pretty clear you need Electrope, and there is no known source of it at this current time on the Source, aside from--obviously--raiding Everkeep to do so--and doing so comes at great risk because in the current political climate, you'd be engaging not only Alexandria, but their diplomatic ties and proximity to Tural suggest Thavnair could get involved too.

And we all know that's never going to happen.

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Yeah, about that... have you done the alliance raid?

Imo, the issue isn't necessarily that sci-fi exists, it's that the devs have kind of lost the plot in regards to it and are just putting out modern day clothes/technology/etc.

I'd agree that basically every Final Fantasy game has had sci-fi elements and it's a series staple, but none of the stuff we've gotten lately feels like it's actually from a Final Fantasy game. It's literally just modern irl stuff copy-pasted into FFXIV. It's all kind of lazy and there's really not any thematic consistency to it.

Basically: they're out of ideas in regards to the setting they built for the last decade or so and they don't care about any sort of consistency anymore. It's just "rule of cool" but overdone to the point that things are rarely even cool anymore.

Maybe we need more belts and zippers on these outfits

The belts lost in EW's gotta go somewhere right?

I think we should upgrade to modern ages in FFXIV. So everyone can enjoy it, openly. Also to start designing more cars and motorcycle models to replace things like chocobos and horses.
Eorzean highways and more.
So the club scene really explodes and they can start advertising modern clothes IRL too for extra money to design even more things within the formula.

People may not like it, but cash shop is the only way to properly support the company we love and adore, and have been for ages. Fake fans think knights and horses will win, but actual fans know that its a themepark and in a themepark anything goes, I think if they want to add something that didnt make sense before its their right, and we just have to take it and support it. Even discoballs and djs, Ul'dah should be a night club district, and there should be scooters on the street already.
Limsa should have fashion shows, and they should forget about wooden boats, where we could just have modern airships, spaceships and cars driving around. Limsa could be the spaceport, how cool would that be.

Mechas too, I think would be very cool, so we could fight in space. Something very good and surface, nothing too political because that can get very boring very fast. Easy bad vs good, so people dont have to think. Chasing modern trends is what will keep this game franchise alive, so I think the closer we chase things like Cyberpunk and much more, the better product we will have.

Remember to support with money whenever you can, because that is what matters and what will get us all smiling and having fun. Give them money and keep subbing

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Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch

Final Fantasy 1 has a tower where enemy encounters frequently feature robots, culminating in the Warriors of Light using a teleporter to access and orbital space station. The "secret boss" encounter in that area, on the bridge before you encounter Tiamat, is the WarMech/Death Machine, whose strongest attack was called "NUKE" in the original translation. The Death Machine is in FFXIV, by the by—it's a enemy mob in both Bozja and Garlemald.

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Not to mention the very first game also had time travel.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

I think we should upgrade to modern ages in FFXIV. So everyone can enjoy it, openly. Also to start designing more cars and motorcycle models to replace things like chocobos and horses.
Eorzean highways and more.
So the club scene really explodes and they can start advertising modern clothes IRL too for extra money to design even more things within the formula.

People may not like it, but cash shop is the only way to properly support the company we love and adore, and have been for ages. Fake fans think knights and horses will win, but actual fans know that its a themepark and in a themepark anything goes, I think if they want to add something that didnt make sense before its their right, and we just have to take it and support it. Even discoballs and djs, Ul'dah should be a night club district, and there should be scooters on the street already.
Limsa should have fashion shows, and they should forget about wooden boats, where we could just have modern airships, spaceships and cars driving around. Limsa could be the spaceport, how cool would that be.

Mechas too, I think would be very cool, so we could fight in space. Something very good and surface, nothing too political because that can get very boring very fast. Easy bad vs good, so people dont have to think. Chasing modern trends is what will keep this game franchise alive, so I think the closer we chase things like Cyberpunk and much more, the better product we will have.

Remember to support with money whenever you can, because that is what matters and what will get us all smiling and having fun. Give them money and keep subbing

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I'm having a hard time believing that nowadays someone would buy a game from a series as famous as Final Fantasy expecting it to be a straight-up medieval fantasy RPG. You've kinda brought your prolonged buyer's remorse-fueled meltdown on yourself.

By the ways its not technically science fiction because it's not based on real world science.

This rant is basically "i want fantasy, but not that particular type of fantasy for some reason"

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Originally Posted by Dorito_Burrito

I'm having a hard time believing that nowadays someone would buy a game from a series as famous as Final Fantasy expecting it to be a straight-up medieval fantasy RPG. You've kinda brought your prolonged buyer's remorse-fueled meltdown on yourself.

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I think there are games way more harmonious and congruent in their treatment. I mean look at the latest FF game, FFXVI was basically a medieval fantasy game and the "advanced" civilization they introduced fit relatively well aesthetically within the game. It wasn't all over the place and you didn't get captain kirk outfits or bunnies at a rave twerking in a space ship.

Say what you will but it was treated much more seriously and well implemented into a world. It didn't turn the whole game into a joke.

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Originally Posted by Dorito_Burrito

I'm having a hard time believing that nowadays someone would buy a game from a series as famous as Final Fantasy expecting it to be a straight-up medieval fantasy RPG. You've kinda brought your prolonged buyer's remorse-fueled meltdown on yourself.

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That's fair. Equally, the science fiction themes, and clothes in particular, are completely unimaginative. Solution 9 is Tokyo with more purple.

Final Fantasy XIV doesn't handle scifi fantasy well. This is a objective fact. Low-tech high fantasy themed expansions were by and far more well received and aged better.

Everyone loves Heavensward and Shadowbringers, Shadowbringers was peak high-fantasy, Heavensward was peak gothic fantasy. However, yet despite these things, they still have ELEMENTS of scifi. Predominantly in the final zones respectively, of course.

Sprinkles of ancient societies are something nobody minds. But when you have the MASSIVE NARRATIVE DISSONANCE that is stuff like literal ROCKET SHIPS and backwater medieval towns. This stuff isn't at all meshed well, or in a well thought out way.

If CBU3 went and actually remolded the world to bring it up to date with the more recent 'advances', IE: showings of magitek in the main three cities, and towns around it, etc. People wouldn't mind as much.

And a side note, to all the degenerates who only want 'modern aesthetics in this game so they can ERP incredibly outlandish things easier', you're not discreet, we know why you want these things. Try playing the game with both hands in the future and leaving the 'club', you might be surprised at how much stuff there is to actually still do.