FFXIV Healer Strike and the 'How would you fix it?' line

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Originally Posted by klu

Yeah, thats become pretty clear.



One last time. Just because other people are bad, does not mean *you* need to be bad. You can choose to be better, but as you've clearly said:




You would prefer to keep being bad,



And what really can I say to that?

You get the forums you deserve, I guess.

Still, you're crapping up the forums. You should stop doing that.

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You need to understand that nobody but you sees this as bad

I’m not choosing to be bad you are choosing to care about a topic nobody else does and people don’t agree with you

"I think these threads are ruining the forums and making it worse for everybody, I will now go into these threads and write a complaint, thus bumping these threads that I hate and see as making the forums worse straight to the front page. Yes, it's those people who are discussing the topic that are making the forums worse, which is why I must go to correct them of their wrongdoing.

What's that? The 40 SAM threads after 6.1? Those are fine!
The 33 VPR threads after 7.05? A-OK!
The 27 BLM threads after 7.2? Fantastic discussion!

But those 3 healer threads! They're bad and must be stopped!"

Hilarious.

Carry on.

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Originally Posted by Aravell

"I think these threads are ruining the forums and making it worse for everybody, I will now go into these threads and write a complaint, thus bumping these threads that I hate and see as making the forums worse straight to the front page. Yes, it's those people who are discussing the topic that are making the forums worse, which is why I must go to correct them of their wrongdoing.

What's that? The 40 SAM threads after 6.1? Those are fine!
The 33 VPR threads after 7.05? A-OK!
The 27 BLM threads after 7.2? Fantastic discussion!

But those 3 healer threads! They're bad and must be stopped!"

Hilarious.

Carry on.

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Read more, comment less. I already addressed and debunked this line.

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Originally Posted by klu

So instead of being better, you're down for wallowing in mud. You claim my statements are pointless, but you're fine with endless circular discussions with zero resolution, and you are a prominent of enshittification, because you don't care.

Got it.

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Surely the biggest source of 'Endless circular discussions' is the argument about whether this thread constitiutes 'crapping up the forums' or not?

At this rate, your 'number of posts in this thread, relative to total post count on your account' will mirror the ratio of 'number of Broil casts in a given Savage fight, relative to the total casts of all abilities by the SCH (within the duration of the fight)'

That seems pretty endless and circular to me, but hey, I'm just trying to offer new perspectives on the role, because the issue that I see it having at the moment is exactly that: the gameplay is also 'endless and circular'. I endlessly watch the circular pie diagram thingy showing my GCD roll on my Dosis, or my Broil, as I press them again and again for a whole 10min fight.


To prevent this post from being considered more of the 'endless and circular', an idea I had at the store, for giving WHM a bit of low level AOE:

Trait (level 18-22ish), 'Flash Floods'
'When you deal damage to a target with Water (or its upgraded versions), if the target suffers from Aero's DOT (or its upgraded versions), then Water deals damage to all nearby allies with a potency of X (tune as appropriate).'

Not really much thought went into it beyond 'what if the whirling winds (represented by the Aero DOT) flung the Water droplets at really high speeds, and that made it hit things that aren't the main target as... splash damage? (ha)'

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Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe

At this rate, your 'number of posts in this thread, relative to total post count on your account' will mirror the ratio of 'number of Broil casts in a given Savage fight, relative to the total casts of all abilities by the SCH (within the duration of the fight)'

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-50 points for arguing the post history, not the argument. (Profile Trolling Infraction)

+50 points for relating it to a healer issue in a fight, plus suggestion for Flash Floods doing "splash damage". (Awesome Award)

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Originally Posted by klu

-50 points for arguing the post history, not the argument. (Profile Trolling Infraction)

+50 points for relating it to a healer issue in a fight, plus suggestion for Flash Floods doing "splash damage". (Awesome Award)

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If you're unhappy with other people reading what you post then you just shouldnt have posted it.

Honestly at some point you all must just accept that there is no point arguing with klu, they are a brick wall that exists solely to crap up healer threads (specifically strike related threads it seems) by derailing them with whining... all the while ignoring every other duplicate thread ever made because they seem to just hate healers trying to discuss the role. I at least blocked them forever ago and have no interest in their posts.

But onto something worth while....

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Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe

Not really much thought went into it beyond 'what if the whirling winds (represented by the Aero DOT) flung the Water droplets at really high speeds, and that made it hit things that aren't the main target as... splash damage? (ha)'

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This is actually a fun idea, anything that brings back water to WHM is gold in my book, also must say a lot of your ideas for healers resonate with me whenever I see you post them. Because the one thing that would help the role a lot is more and varied DPS rotations to make the jobs feel distinguished from one another as well as more fun in solo content like MSQ duties but also in healing downtime, I also also will voice my appreciation on you taking time to try and make these ideas not overburden lower skill/newer healers as well.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

If you're unhappy with other people reading what you post then you just shouldnt have posted it.

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You're not dense, so don't act like you are.

I don't mind people seeing what I've written. What I mind is people doing the internet thing, where instead of attacking my ideas, they attempt to write off my points by pointing to my profile posts.

Convince me with your ideas, or don't. But don't point at my post history like its some "I win" button.

You're better than that. Everyone is.

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Originally Posted by klu

You're not dense, so don't act like you are.

I don't mind people seeing what I've written. What I mind is people doing the internet thing, where instead of attacking my ideas, they attempt to write off my points by pointing to my profile posts.

Convince me with your ideas, or don't. But don't point at my post history like its some "I win" button.

You're better than that. Everyone is.

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Your ideas? You dont post your ideas, you just attack healers on this forum lmao

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Your ideas? You dont post your ideas, you just attack healers on this forum lmao

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Yes. Because I have this idea that opening multiple threads on the same subject is unhelpful, and irritating.