FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

Again, you are in the minority for having the most literal interpretation of what a 10/10 is. By this definition no piece of art can be a 10/10 because no piece of art is perfect (except for Super Mario Galaxy 2). So why do people frequently say certain games are 10/10 for them? These people aren’t saying it is literally perfect and flawless.

And the reason 10a are more common because games we actually know about are made by competent teams of professionals, not shovelware on the Ouya store. I don’t know why people think game scores have to have a statistically perfect spread of scores. Most mainstream games are pretty good actually. If I were to go to a farmer’s market and examine every apple they sell there, only a few of them would be rotten or inedible, whereas most would be tasty apples. If someone else ate the apple and was like “man this is a perfect apple to me” I wouldn’t be all like “NO NO that is unreasonable you are biased and using the scale wrong!”.

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Keep yapping so you hit your post limit and we don't have to see your inane thoughts for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

Why do people think a 0/10 game is equally as common or reasonable as a 10/10 game? There are way more 10/10 games than 0/10 games. No one in the history of metacritic has seriously given a game a 0/10 in good faith unless it’s like Big Rig Truckers or ET for the Atari. If there are an unusual amount of 10s it’s because people are doing that in response to 0/10 reviews.

Review aggregates should delete 0/10s since review bombing is cringe and is often done for stupid bigoted reasons, like when the last of us show was review bombed for having a gay character. If you disagree you probably like to review bomb yourself

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I disagree here, what do you mean you cant give a 0/10 in good faith? I think the story is a 0/10 I decide that the story is the most important part of the game, that is, that would be what I would remmber this game for 5 years from today, even if raids are a 10/10 the total for me would still be a 0 that is not in a bad faith and the fact that you dismiss everyone else's opinions just shows who is acting in "bad faith" here

As long as people give reasonable explanations to their rating they're free to rate the game however they want and most people will respect it. Saying it sucks versus giving a solid few sentences behind that reasoning goes a long way. If they don't want to do it then it's fine but also lessens the chance people will take their opinion seriously.

metacritic is just having a reviewbomb of 10/10 and that is fine but having actual normal critiques that are not even a 0 are deleted and mixed review are view as positive too, hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by HighlanderClone

Keep yapping so you hit your post limit and we don't have to see your inane thoughts for the rest of the day.

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Very civil reaction to a different opinion, thank you. Very telling that you have to resort to this instead of engaging with any of my points.

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Originally Posted by DaveFishnomer

I disagree here, what do you mean you cant give a 0/10 in good faith? I think the story is a 0/10 I decide that the story is the most important part of the game, that is, that would be what I would remmber this game for 5 years from today, even if raids are a 10/10 the total for me would still be a 0 that is not in a bad faith and the fact that you dismiss everyone else's opinions just shows who is acting in "bad faith" here

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Name a 0/10 game you have played and explain why without using bad dev behavior outside the game as the reason.

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

Again, you are in the minority for having the most literal interpretation of what a 10/10 is. By this definition no piece of art can be a 10/10 because no piece of art is perfect (except for Super Mario Galaxy 2). So why do people frequently say certain games are 10/10 for them? These people aren’t saying it is literally perfect and flawless.

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

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Chat literally what the hell did he mean by this?

If people are upset at the game and give it a 0 out of 10 for whatever reason then so be it. Same for a 10 out of 10.

Purging reviews isn't helpful because then what happens, do people just start giving 1s or 2s instead of 0s? or 8s and 9s instead of 10s? Then what we have to purge those too?

There's really no solution to user review bombing (both overly positive and overly negative). However this sort of things existed for a long time now. So we have to ask if this didn't happen for EW and SHB . . . perhaps it's fair to say this isn't as universally loved and enjoyed as the prior expansions?

It's OK to say "I really enjoyed this expansion but other people didn't".

I simply don't understand why those that did enjoy this are so adamant about hand waving away other peoples complaints and trying to marginalize the feedback.

No one is trying to take away your enjoyment of the game.

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Originally Posted by KurenXIV

If people are upset at the game and give it a 0 out of 10 for whatever reason then so be it. Same for a 10 out of 10.

Purging reviews isn't helpful because then what happens, do people just start giving 1s or 2s instead of 0s? or 8s and 9s instead of 10s? Then what we have to purge those too?

There's really no solution to user review bombing (both overly positive and overly negative). However this sort of things existed for a long time now. So we have to ask if this didn't happen for EW and SHB . . . perhaps it's fair to say this isn't as universally loved and enjoyed as the prior expansions?

It's OK to say "I really enjoyed this expansion but other people didn't".

I simply don't understand why those that did enjoy this are so adamant about hand waving away other peoples complaints and trying to marginalize the feedback.

No one is trying to take away your enjoyment of the game.

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In the end it all boils down to people getting salty that people are giving a review opposite to their opinion. That's it. Steam only has "recommended" and "not recommended," and people still rage because they see a bit of boo-boo red on their favorite game's store page, or because they see too much happy green on a game they really hate. Remove scores and people still scream "review bombing!" at every corner.

When a new game releases, it might be hard to analyze what is really going on behind the scenes. When the fifth expansion releases for an old MMO, it is actually quite easy. As you yourself say - compare to previous expansions. FFXIV expansions do not really get review bombed. Metacritic was around for a long time. Did Stormblood get review bombed? No. Did it get some bad reviews and a bit of criticism? Yes. Were the ratings as low as they are now? No. So it seems reasonable to assume that the new expansion is simply not as well received.