What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

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Originally Posted by Vryn

So, the majority of my family died from it you don't hear me complaining, it's a part of life hun and so is being disappointed in a product so let people vent. It's not about your moral outrage.

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I ain't the one raging smh.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

I ain't the one raging smh.

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I'm glad you are not raging but everyone else is so it might be a good idea to let them. Everyone needs an outlet and is better on the forums than in the game.

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

We... don't get less gear.
We definitely get more than back when the game started.

We get 1 dg instead of 2 (thanks god), and because of that, they add other different kinds of cool content.

(Smaller maps? What do you mean?)

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Four sets I can think of are reused assets. This expansion has not been a glowing example of skilled gear design. Every expansion has seen less sets then the last one. You can say quality is better they are more unique, that doesn't invalidate the statement less sets.

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Originally Posted by Vryn

Crap? Just because you don't like the words he uses or the tone of his reasoning doesn't mean he's crapping on them. If people want to praise Square, they can start their thread rather than coming into a complaint thread to subvert people trying to vent their concerns about the game, which is more malicious than someone being slightly blunt with them.

It was okay if they thought it was great, but they make their thread. Who thought people would be happy with others telling them to calm down or that their opinion is somehow worthless because they revamped PVP? How else did you think they were going to take it?

There is a time and place for this, and it's not on this thread. It would be on their post. It's like someone who has cancer being told it is not bad because they had a great life.

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If they're referring to this post, that person wasn't just saying the patch is great, they were also implying the complaints were invalid in the last sentence, which they more or less went to confirm a few posts later on.

And we're still doom posting. Ths stuff really gets old man. I really don't like the stance many take that a bunch of folks stave off criticism of the game when it's generally never mentioned that just as many overblown the games issues. The game has work to be done but it's not on the fast track to dying because they aren't fixing what you want asap

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

And we're still doom posting. Ths stuff really gets old man. I really don't like the stance many take that a bunch of folks stave off criticism of the game when it's generally never mentioned that just as many overblown the games issues. The game has work to be done but it's not on the fast track to dying because they aren't fixing what you want asap

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As has been explained many times throughout this thread and many others, a lot of players have seen the slow burn in real time where the collapse of other MMO's are concerned.

It didn't happen overnight. It was a slow process - one many of us are able to identify and acknowledge. I'm pretty comfortable suggesting that many of us do not want the game to crash and burn. There's stuff we like about it, friends we enjoy playing with. Though the idea that everyone just has to roll over and accept everything handed to them or quit if they don't like something isn't really conductive to averting a repeat of WoW's decline.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

And we're still doom posting. Ths stuff really gets old man. I really don't like the stance many take that a bunch of folks stave off criticism of the game when it's generally never mentioned that just as many overblown the games issues. The game has work to be done but it's not on the fast track to dying because they aren't fixing what you want asap

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some might be overblown but they are right to overblown it considering the issues that being discussed here.
considering the time frame to address the issues, the time the systems were developed and the fact that this is not a small company with barely 5 devs only developing all the systems in the game but a multi dollar company that should have a good amount of devs in charge of the game with testers that "test" the systems before deployment that we actually pay monthly sub for it.
every rage here could have been seen coming a mile away.

Fairly certain most of us who played certain other mmo can see the red flags rather fast

Of course yoshi is going to be polite because at the end of day he wants you to be still subscribe or making purchase in the cash shop at the end of the day he need to make sure that player keep their subscription active to show square that this game is still successful.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As has been explained many times throughout this thread and many others, a lot of players have seen the slow burn in real time where the collapse of other MMO's are concerned.

It didn't happen overnight. It was a slow process - one many of us are able to identify and acknowledge. I'm pretty comfortable suggesting that many of us do not want the game to crash and burn. There's stuff we like about it, friends we enjoy playing with. Though the idea that everyone just has to roll over and accept everything handed to them or quit if they don't like something isn't really conductive to averting a repeat of WoW's decline.

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Yet I've seen maybe 4 folks here in the slew of comments say the game is fine. This thread has big wash of "look at xyz, xyz is bad", but nothing (or not much) on how to fix those. Not everyone here is complaining for change, I'll bet plenty are complaining for the sake of or just to be part of the group.

I'm not excusing anything but it does seem SE isn't allowed to make mistakes because they're a big company and "big Corpo = bad". Have they taken on a tall order and tried to appeal to to many folks? Sure, but I'm not gonna crap on them for it.

Also overflowing issues isn't always needed. How a class performs? No. Losing money due a bugged lottery, yes