To those that say FF14 is not a big dog in MMO's

Personally I liked it better when FF 14 was not on everyone's lips now you get all the people from wow coming over and trying to change our games to the same undesirable gameplay that made their own game be so unfun

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

Personally I liked it better when FF 14 was not on everyone's lips now you get all the people from wow coming over and trying to change our games to the same undesirable gameplay that made their own game be so unfun

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Thats been happening for a few years now before the big controversy...
And yeah....pretty annoying

FFXIV has been a top MMO since it's relaunch.
Whoever thinks otherwise is delusional or a straight hater of XIV, just to annoy - the very easily annoyed passive aggresive - fanbase.

The industry is diverse though, both WoW and FFXIV players should stop acting as if this was only about them, or the genre itself is only this. There are several other MMORPGs that offer and do stuff very well and when you actually decide to compare every game, is easier to see what each lacks and what each does good.
But that requieres you not to be a fanboy.


In the style of you being annoyed for new people coming here with their "bad ideas".

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Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

FFXIV has been a top MMO since it's relaunch.
Whoever thinks otherwise is delusional or a straight hater of XIV, just to annoy - the very easily annoyed passive aggresive - fanbase.

The industry is diverse though, both WoW and FFXIV players should stop acting as if this was only about them, or the genre itself is only this. There are several other MMORPGs that offer and do stuff very well and when you actually decide to compare every game, is easier to see what each lacks and what each does good.
But that requieres you not to be a fanboy.


In the style of you being annoyed for new people coming here with their "bad ideas".

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I will only say top as far as being well made sure. But as far as sales or player population not really. There's a video Asmongold watched that showed the top 10 games from 2004 to 2020... and XIV stopped being on that list a while ago. That isn't to say I think XIV is a bad game.. fuck no. I love XIV, hell it's the only game I played nonstop for YEARS. Don't hate me. T.T

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

Personally I liked it better when FF 14 was not on everyone's lips now you get all the people from wow coming over and trying to change our games to the same undesirable gameplay that made their own game be so unfun

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That's been happening with just about everything in general since the internet became a mainstream thing. It's not limited to this game or even games in general. What really turns it into a problem is that too many businesses are prioritizing their likes on social media over providing a superior service or product. As a result the majority of the consumer market ends up suffering because they focus on appeasing a small amount of noisy people being obnoxious on social media and this appeasement is done by making poor business decisions which either holds back improvements or takes things away from the entire market base.

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Originally Posted by _Koneko_

Personally I liked it better when FF 14 was not on everyone's lips now you get all the people from wow coming over and trying to change our games to the same undesirable gameplay that made their own game be so unfun

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It isn't a new thing honestly. Its been happening for a long time with people trying to kick a tank who doesn't pull fast enough for them or a healer who uses Cure 1 ever. Basically anyone who plays somewhat inefficiently has been the target of harassment since I started playing in Heavensward. The only people who seem to be spared some of it are DPS players who, because people can't use parsers to harass them, generally don't get targeted as often because its a little harder to see when they are being less than 100% efficient. So basically being a tank or a healer in this game is asking to be forced to play around everyone else's playstyle or risk being harassed. New WoW players may be exacerbating the issue and there is a culture shock going on, but the underlying toxicity was always here. We just ignored it because many of the toxic players tried to hide it for a while.

Hopefully if people keep reporting players who are toxic the GMs will be able to keep up and things will go back to being at least somewhat better, even if there will always be bad actors.

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Originally Posted by Puremallace

Well go tell Blizzard. I keep track of this stuff because why not...

Anyways at the recent Blizzcon they announced their 9.1 patch but the problem is details were super sparse and very up in the air so obviously people got concerned about a MASSIVE content drought that lined up this patch in August or September for some mysterious reason... FF14 players know why.

Now MAGICALLY out of thin air they announce their PTR for patch 9.1 exactly 2 weeks from today. Can anyone name something else that comes out exactly 2 weeks from today?

Square Enix keep doing exactly what you are doing and make the game about content and not endless systems. Blizzard has consistently tried to line up patch cycles to drown out FF14 news because they are scared and the feedback on the unsub surveys must be brutal.

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They got what they deserved.