Live Letter XXX Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by Thayos

That's not the whole game in XIV, though... just what happens in a piece of bonus content in which you're virtually guaranteed at least some kind of reward, just not ALL the rewards.

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Doesn't change the fact that this could be done better. There's a reason why Jumbo Cactpot has seen a huge decrease in participation. It's the least fun thing there is in the Gold Saucer.

Why accept mediocrity? If something can be improved, people should ask for it to be improved.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Idea #2
The 50% chance to spawn a portal remains, the rewards remain the same as the ones that were announced (7th room giving various grade V materia, and 100,000 gil to every party member). The RNG is adjusted in the sense that you won't get kicked out if you pick the wrong door. Here's the catch to this idea, picking the wrong door places you into a savage-tier version of the next room, so difficult that it's very unlikely for your party to progress past that room. Essentially, you did get screwed over by RNG, but it didn't stop you from progressing entirely.

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That's fine as long as it is clearable.

Here's another alternative: Every time you pick the wrong door, it knocks off time from the duty duration timer. I believe it was a 60 duration duty. Let's say -10~15 minutes per wrong door. You're still getting RNG screwed, but it's increasing the intensity of the dungeon by making you have to push harder to clear in time. Ramp up the difficulty while you're at it.

Another clarification: Not all RNG is bad. It can be put to good use. Pure RNG is plain awful though. If the only thing that is determining whether you succeed or not is a dice roll, then it's just not fun.

To elaborate on what I mentioned, you could have two different rooms. One is the normal room, the other is booby trapped. It will apply a penalty to your group. Time reduction, Poison (can't clear), Paralysis, Reduced Healing. Etc. This makes it progressively more difficult to continue clearing. Think FF7 Battle Square.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

That's fine as long as it is clearable.

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Clearable by 1% of the playerbase still counts as clearable, right?

There's no point in changing the Aquapolis to be progressively more difficult as you get closer to the 7th room.
Mainly because they're already adding Palace of the Dead in 3.35, a dungeon that becomes progressively more difficult as you move from floor to floor, and requires skill to do. Oh, and there's no RNG to enter the Palace of the Dead!

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

There's no point in changing the Aquapolis to be progressively more difficult as you get closer to the 7th room.

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Making it more fun is reason enough.

Hey Yoshida. I'm calling you out. Remember this?

http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/...oto6_thumb.jpg

Let's go back to making things that are fun, please.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Why accept mediocrity? If something can be improved, people should ask for it to be improved.

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This particular sentence bears repeating. It's maddening to me when I hear someone make a post about something that could be improved and players actually respond with "well it could be worse" or "it's worse in this other game" as if that somehow makes it acceptable for this one. I don't believe the players should have to settle.

Fun is subjective. Just because it doesn't fit your definition of fun doesn't mean there aren't others that won't enjoy it the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Fun is subjective. Just because it doesn't fit your definition of fun doesn't mean there aren't others that won't enjoy it the way it is.

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Sorry. Anyone that thinks pentamelding high tier materia is fun is wrong.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Sorry. Anyone that thinks pentamelding high tier materia is fun is wrong.

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And yet people want mob claiming and insanely low drop rates back >.>

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Making it more fun is reason enough.

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Except you're pretty much asking for it to be turned into something that's already being released in 3.35. Go do that if you don't enjoy the Aquapolis.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

This particular sentence bears repeating. It's maddening to me when I hear someone make a post about something that could be improved and players actually respond with "well it could be worse" or "it's worse in this other game" as if that somehow makes it acceptable for this one. I don't believe the players should have to settle.

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The previous live letter listed the portal spawn rate at 20%, the recent live letter lists it at 50% spawn rate. Does that not count as an improvement?

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Sorry. Anyone that thinks pentamelding high tier materia is fun is wrong.

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It's your opinion that pentamelding high tier materia isn't fun. While I'd find it questionable if a player finds overmelding fun, since I don't like pentamelding either, that doesn't make them wrong. They just have an opinion that differs from yours

Estenien, dies or lives?