Character Creation Options!

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Texture uploads are overkill, imho.

I don't see how different body morphs would increase the memory footprint though, since it's just one model in memory with different transformations applied. Storing a scene graph doesn't cost that much and has to be done in case of presets too, just that with variables there are potentially more paths in it.

As for animation, i don't know how a slider system would affect them. But since they motion-captured them for one type of body but still have some presets, maybe it doesn't affect it that much?

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You have to factor in clipping.

Clipping of hair is happening already, so it doesn't matter if the system stays preset-based or changes to slider-based.
Maybe I am oversimplifying things, but like i said, i don't see much difference between implementing new presets and making a slider (to create presets on-the-fly). You have to scale the clipping points for different presets, just like you have to scale it for sliders.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Texture uploads are overkill, imho.

I don't see how different body morphs would increase the memory footprint though, since it's just one model in memory with different transformations applied. Storing a scene graph doesn't cost that much and has to be done in case of presets too, just that with variables there are potentially more paths in it.

As for animation, i don't know how a slider system would affect them. But since they motion-captured them for one type of body but still have some presets, maybe it doesn't affect it that much?

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APB has one of the largest character customization designers for a MMORPG.

One of the biggest downsides is it can take up to 10 minutes for you to sync with another player so you actually see "Them" and not a Placeholder noobie avatar.

I know one time it was so delayed syncing the data that I was running in crew with 4 "Newbie" looking players because their character information refused to sync, it was worst the Texture pop in.

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Originally Posted by Ceons

They hyped this up so much, that it was going to be great etc... but really this would have been great when ffxi came out in 2002... But now almost 10 years later it sucks.

Can I please have more than 8 hairstyles to choose from?

Can I please be able to modify my ass and boob size -.-?

Can I have a slider for the height, instead of choosing weather I want to be tall/tallest/shortest etc... ?

In fact can I have sliders for everything... From face to body and everyhing in between?


Can I choose colors for my underwear? Maybe even have a couple different styles?

I know people really want the battle and content problems fixed and I'm not saying I want this to be number one priority, but I just want to point out that this area... Is severely lacking. 1 out of 8 of the same race in FFXIV has the exact same haircut. Seriously, Eorzea needs a new barber/hairstylist. . . /cry

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I completely agree with you here, we need a lot more options, i've suggested they should do a "[dev1035] tag" Character creation/customization in gameplay section:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Yes-please.

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Originally Posted by Ceons

They hyped this up so much, that it was going to be great etc... but really this would have been great when ffxi came out in 2002... But now almost 10 years later it sucks.

Can I please have more than 8 hairstyles to choose from?

Can I please be able to modify my ass and boob size -.-?

Can I have a slider for the height, instead of choosing weather I want to be tall/tallest/shortest etc... ?

In fact can I have sliders for everything... From face to body and everyhing in between?


Can I choose colors for my underwear? Maybe even have a couple different styles?

I know people really want the battle and content problems fixed and I'm not saying I want this to be number one priority, but I just want to point out that this area... Is severely lacking. 1 out of 8 of the same race in FFXIV has the exact same haircut. Seriously, Eorzea needs a new barber/hairstylist. . . /cry

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I totally agree with this suggestion, I too would be very happy to see more diversity/options in the character creation. Back during the beta, I really thought we would have sliders or at least 3 times as much choices than we have now -- we were in 2010 after all, not early 2000 like FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

I totally agree with this suggestion, I too would be very happy to see more diversity/options in the character creation. Back during the beta, I really thought we would have sliders or at least 3 times as much choices than we have now -- we were in 2010 after all, not early 2000 like FFXI.

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No MMO that has focused on character creation options has been more than mildly successful at best.

It's a dumb way to use valuable resources no matter what time we live in, period.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

No MMO that has focused on character creation options has been more than mildly successful at best.

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Where is the proof they failed because they invested in a good character system?
If they failed at adding any meaningful comment, it doesn't mean advanced character creation it's a dead end. It just means they failed at content/game mechanics, SE managed to do that with FFXIV as well - without an advanced char system. (And they think they failed as well, they wouldn't try to change half of the game otherwise)

SE has enough resources to do this right.
And no one is screaming "SE DO THIS NAO!!!!".

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

No MMO that has focused on character creation options has been more than mildly successful at best.

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Aion. Yes, only mildly successful here in the US, but it's a massive success in Asia.

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Originally Posted by Agastya

I completely agree with you here, we need a lot more options, i've suggested they should do a "[dev1035] tag" Character creation/customization in gameplay section:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Yes-please.

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It would have to be [dev1038], as 1035 was for targeting, 1036 for the addition of exp/sp/loot to sidequest mobs, and 1037 for enhanced battle effects. But even then, making up your own dev tags is never a good idea.

That being said, I completely agree! I hope they give us some more info. on this soon!

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

No MMO that has focused on character creation options has been more than mildly successful at best.

It's a dumb way to use valuable resources no matter what time we live in, period.

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I hate to break it to you but games like Aion and APB failed in NA because of the lack of content focus (meanwhile, Aion is still going strong on private servers and in Asia, imagine that!).