Nobuo Uematsu's Original Score: Why was it removed?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QRKQWD0jOc

How can people deny this song? Really?

(still stuck in my head after a year)

So happy it's coming back.

I think the city with the worst song was Limsa Lominsa. It's a pirate-hovel turned city, built on the wreckage of a long sunk ship... and it had the loudest, most bang-clash song of all the cities. Ul'dah was at least somewhat fitting.

Actually, I loved Navigator's Glory (Limsa's original theme), yet I utterly hated The Twin Faces of Fate (original Ul'dah theme) - it shows how subjective this argument really is.

And Soken has retained a significant portion of 1.0's OST in ARR - only the original battle and field themes seem to have been replaced. Yes it's disappointing tracks have been replaced, but Soken's new soundtrack is on par with Uematsu's work in my opinion. The only 1.0 track omission I'm really upset about (and I even asked about it in Feedback during the Alpha and Beta), is Uematsu's Piece of Mind (sic), the track that played when you chose a Path Companion in 1.0 (and a few other places). I love this track so much, and would love to hear it again in ARR somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

There was another one, but I can't find it or know it's name. If anyone knows it... it was sometimes played during crafting quests... I remember it in the Alchemy one in particular. Sort of sad-sounding with a bell set melody.

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That wouldn't happen to be Uematsu's With These Hands by any chance? The only version of it I could find on Youtube included a link for a pirated download of it in mp3 so I am not including a link here for that reason - in any event it's track number 30 on the Before Meteor album.

In 1.0 Nobou was not given the proper material to inspire the music he was writing. Besides that, they decided to overplay a lot of the music in game, making people tired of it. If you notice in 2.0 they hardly ever repeat music unless it's in a fight now. It wasn't Nobou's fault for all that and his music is still good, though possibly not perfectly suited for the areas in 2.0.

Here are a few that give me nostaliga:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Y8tsuJU3Y On Windy Meadows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDFyl0W2iww Twilight Over Thanalan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSabm7ZZ_0 Tranquility

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgAzY6Obh8s Scared Bonds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxBl0muwxVM Aetherial Slumber


There was another one, but I can't find it or know it's name. If anyone knows it... it was sometimes played during crafting quests... I remember it in the Alchemy one in particular. Sort of sad-sounding with a bell set melody.

Disagree. Having played 1.0, the music was good but it didn't really fit the game. ARR bgm is much better

It's in one of the live letters or dev comments from about 3ish months ago but i couldn't possibly dig it up..
They plan to have Nobuo compose new tracks for ARR in the future

Also, the old ones aren't at all scrapped. They just need to find the right situation to use them.

i didn't play 1.0. that being said, after digging through the tracks, the one i really enjoy is the ul'dah music... it sounds like it fit more than the current ul'dah music

in general i really like the ARR music, my only complaint is that after 30 seconds of being in a dungeon, the unique music disappears :-(

this is my favorite ARR track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfXo0cX8Z8 i purposely aggro mobs on my chocobo when running through mor dhona just to hear it

No, but really, Uematsu's compositions for 1.0 were really bad, to the point where I'd consider them him "losing his touch", so to speak. Soken does the game justice.

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Originally Posted by ufufu

No, but really, Uematsu's compositions for 1.0 were really bad, to the point where I'd consider them him "losing his touch", so to speak. Soken does the game justice.

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Agreed. Uematsu hasn't been in his prime for years.

The same goes for FFXI. All of FFXI's best songs aren't Uematsu's.

All things considered, Uematsu only composed like, four tracks for FFXI anyway, if that - the majority of FFXI's OST was the work of Naoshi Mizuta and Kumi Tanoika. From what I'm aware Uematsu only composed the opening movie theme Memoria di la Stona, the end vocal theme Distant Worlds (which played at the end of Chains of Promathia), Ronfaure, and reocurring tracks like the Prelude and the Victory Fanfare. Everything else was Mizuta and Tanoika's work.

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Originally Posted by Leira_Raine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QRKQWD0jOc

How can people deny this song? Really?

(still stuck in my head after a year)

So happy it's coming back.

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That's Soken, not Uematsu

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

only the original battle and field themes seem to have been replaced.

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But not completely, Twilight over Thanalan is used in some cutscenes and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Mjj5v-zBE (Boss 4) was Coerthas's battle theme in 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

That's Soken, not Uematsu

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Kind of illustrates my previous point that people are quick to credit Uematsu with the good stuff but don't actually have any idea who wrote what, and simply dislike Soken because he's not Uematsu.

To try and stop me sounding like such a negative so-and-so I have to point out that "Piece of Mind" is beautiful and I hope they bring it back :)

This playerbase has some of the absolute worst opinions on music ever.

"BUT IT'S JUST AN OPINION YOU SHOULD RESPECT IT"

No, piss off. Your opinions suck. 1.0's music was mostly all fantastic (ferry, market wards, old black shroud zone and behest themes pls go), it was just horribly placed. Ul'dah's 1.0 music was better. Coerthas' 1.0 music was better, etc etc.

I'm not going to say that ARR's soundtrack is subpar or anything, because it's far from that. It's very well done and a lot of the music is just fantastic (Preatorium, Ultima Weapon themes, Binding Coil's zone non-battle music, TITAN GODDAMN TITAN), but to say that 1.0's was bad? Piss off. That was the one amazing thing that the shitty excuse of a game had going for it at launch.

Your opinion sucks. Mine is better.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

This playerbase has some of the absolute worst opinions on music ever.

"BUT IT'S JUST AN OPINION YOU SHOULD RESPECT IT"

No, piss off. Your opinions suck. 1.0's music was mostly all fantastic (ferry, market wards, old black shroud zone and behest themes pls go), it was just horribly placed. Ul'dah's 1.0 music was better. Coerthas' 1.0 music was better, etc etc.

I'm not going to say that ARR's soundtrack is subpar or anything, because it's far from that. It's very well done and a lot of the music is just fantastic (Preatorium, Ultima Weapon themes, Binding Coil's zone non-battle music, TITAN GODDAMN TITAN), but to say that 1.0's was bad? Piss off. That was the one amazing thing that the shitty excuse of a game had going for it at launch.

Your opinion sucks. Mine is better.

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well alright

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

That's Soken, not Uematsu

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More Danny Elfman than anything else really :)

Clearly heavily inspired by The Nightmare Before Christmas, but still a great version.

An interesting read, as I thought Uematsu was at least alongside ARR's creation given his name placement. I've loved his music for a very long time, as I grew up with the FF series. Like some others out here, my fav so far from this game is Garuda's theme, so my hat off to Soken on that one - had that engaging feeling of themes I remember in previous FF.

I for one welcome other composers who try to take up his role (in the sense that he of course has left SE for some time now), as it can't be easy coming behind his long line of work. While not the entire soundtrack agrees with me, neither did all of Uematsu's work - so for the most part I hope Soken keeps it up. Its also nice to be brought into the light of this, as even in the credits I was under the impression Uematsu mainly did ARRs work.

Did someone just say that market wards music was good?

Wow.

Uematsu was good for it's time but it's clear that it's time for a new generation to take over. And Soken is that person.

I for one, did not like most of his 1.0 tracks. Like 90% of them I didn't find fitting for the moment/zone. I am however missing the following songs and still think they're better than the current ones. HOWEVER, the current ones are still better fitting to the new zones.

Songs that I miss to hear.

- Coerthas zone music. This one was my all time favorite. It was also one of the tracks that fitted the zone so perfectly. However this song would not match the current snowy Coerthas. I'll miss the sound of wolves howling in that track...
- Black shroud zone music (the later one, not that awful boring ambient sound. That one was just awful). Another track I just loved and I often just chilled out in the black shroud just to listen to it.
- Answers (Duh! That's a given)

I might forget one or two more but yeah...Not that many that I really enjoyed.

Soken on the other hand has a much longer list of musics that I love.
- Garuda
- Fall of the white Raven
- Almost every zone music.
- The new ARR theme music

The man shows promise and a passion for his job.

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Originally Posted by Millerna

More Danny Elfman than anything else really :)

Clearly heavily inspired by The Nightmare Before Christmas, but still a great version.

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Listen closer, it's the Moogle's Theme in a minor key. At 32 seconds in is the "Good King Moggle Mog" part.

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Uematsu hasn't been in his prime for years.

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Did you not play The Last Story?

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

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That wouldn't happen to be Uematsu's With These Hands by any chance? The only version of it I could find on Youtube included a link for a pirated download of it in mp3 so I am not including a link here for that reason - in any event it's track number 30 on the Before Meteor album.

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I looked up this song with FFXIV in the title on youtube. I had tried looking up with Uematsu a keyword, but no luck. It showed this track as an ARR title and I listened to it, but unfortunately it wasn't the song I was thinking of. =(

That's what I'm referring to :P

I'm saying who can't love Good King Moggle Mog? It's created by Soken, and people who don't love it because it's not Uematsu...

Well, they are missing out.

OP is denying the love of it.