Direction of FFXIV?

it failed because of release quality not release direction. this game at this point is taking steps backwards to have an enjoyable game not making strides forward.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

That's because people "beat" these MMOs in a month then move on. MMOs don't have lasting or staying power anymore for anything but a very casual gamer, or if you're lucky and make really good friends before you beat it.

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Personally I think the market in the West is just saturated with MMOs. There seems to be a new one every 3 or 4 months. It's hard to do anything to keep people attention when Super Awesome Omega MMO 4 is coming out in a month or two.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

it failed because of release quality not release direction. this game at this point is taking steps backwards to have an enjoyable game not making strides forward.

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I'm just going with the flow man, cause honestly I have no idea what they're truly going to do. Just because they say they're adding instances or quest hubs doesn't mean they're going to take out world dungeons or NHMs. I'm giving this game until it's one anniversary or possibly the one year of Yoshi's poem before I see if I'm stay with this game or move along. After XIV there aren't any MMOs left I want to play.

Given everything I've read about the changes to the game, I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling my account once billing starts.

I simply do not like the direction the game is going. Every blurb they've given us says that they want this game to firmly follow the Western model for MMORPGs. Auto-attack. Quest hubs. Instanced dungeons at all levels. Solo-focused gameplay. I realize that I don't speak for everyone, but I'm playing Final Fantasy because I'm looking for a Final Fantasy style JRPG MMO experience. SE, you cannot compete with Blizzard on their own turf. You're essentially trying to beat them in a genre they created. If you want this game to be successful, then you need to capture a segment of the market that is relatively untapped. Trying to scrape players from Blizzard's plate may work in the short term, but over the long term it simply will not work. If you're always copying, you're always one step behind.

For examples of this, just look at Warhammer, and more recently, Rift. Both games catered to Blizzard's playerbase, both say an initial surge of players, and both started hemorrhaging players shortly after launch.

Please, instead of copying standard conventions, take the foundation you have and make it awesome.

Instead of building a new battle system around auto-attack, take the current one, streamline stamina and TP usage, and make it worthwhile to not spam attacks (a simple combo system could possible correct this).

Instead of adding mounds of quest hubs, take the leve system to the next level. Add a new type of leve that outlines the quest issue and sends you on your merry way. Having all of the tasks that you could do centered at a single location was a wonderful move in the right direction, and I'm horribly upset that SE seems determined to move away from it. Here's a hint: the problem with leves was their content, not their implementation. There are far too few, that are all far too similar, and on the whole completely uninteresting.

A dungeon does not have to be instanced. Sure, they're good for providing certain challenges, but every dungeon in the game does not need to be. Non-instanced dungeons, when done correctly, provide a rather nice community aspect. People who've played games like Lineage and even games like Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 (the multiplayer servers, at least) know that the dungeons in those games were great places to meet up with people. Anyone remember RoV in EQ2, that low level undead place in Lineage2, or the crypts of Rovenna in NWN1? All utterly fantastic places to meet and group up with new players.

There's nothing inherently wrong with allowing player to solo as much as possible. However, it needs to be realized that once you pass a certain threshhold of solo-convenience, it has a direct effect on group play within the game. The simple version that if everything can be done at your convenience, a large portion of the playerbase will simply not bother with taking the time for group content. I have my theories about anti-social attraction in regards to MMORPG and similar social-based games, but that's another post.

I realize I'm rambling a bit at this point, but I just want to drive home the fact that I feel that SE is making a rather drastic mistake with their current direction.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

it failed because of release quality not release direction. this game at this point is taking steps backwards to have an enjoyable game not making strides forward.

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Exactly, and they seem to think they need to make this game like all the others to make it succeed, sigh. I don't really want to play another MMO ever again if this one turns out to be another one like all the rest, but for now I hope that we get a final fantasy type MMO and not what I think is going to happen.

Edit: OMG I agree 1000% with Dreamer! I like actual zones, I like my MMO to feel like, you know, a MMO, an ONLINE WORLD. Everything being instanced doesn't make it feel like that at all, it makes it hard to meet people and make friends. I want a final fantasy JRPG, not another stupid western MMO WOW clone #60470700740740. If this game is going the direction I see it going, I'm pretty sure I'll be quitting as well. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst is what I'm doing ;_;

I'm think the Westerners are more angry about these changes than the Japanese. In Japan there are no MMOs similar to WoW (at least that I know of), so the Japanese players like these changes. Also another reason why SE is placing instanced dungeons in this game is because Monster Hunter has them and it's a HUGE game in Japan.

dreamer, all i can say is wow and agreed 100000000000000%

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

dreamer, all i can say is wow and agreed 100000000000000%

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I'm amazed someone actually read that wall of text.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Given everything I've read about the changes to the game, I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling my account once billing starts.

I simply do not like the direction the game is going. Every blurb they've given us says that they want this game to firmly follow the Western model for MMORPGs. Auto-attack. Quest hubs. Instanced dungeons at all levels. Solo-focused gameplay. I realize that I don't speak for everyone, but I'm playing Final Fantasy because I'm looking for a Final Fantasy style JRPG MMO experience. SE, you cannot compete with Blizzard on their own turf. You're essentially trying to beat them in a genre they created. If you want this game to be successful, then you need to capture a segment of the market that is relatively untapped. Trying to scrape players from Blizzard's plate may work in the short term, but over the long term it simply will not work. If you're always copying, you're always one step behind.

For examples of this, just look at Warhammer, and more recently, Rift. Both games catered to Blizzard's playerbase, both say an initial surge of players, and both started hemorrhaging players shortly after launch.

Please, instead of copying standard conventions, take the foundation you have and make it awesome.

Instead of building a new battle system around auto-attack, take the current one, streamline stamina and TP usage, and make it worthwhile to not spam attacks (a simple combo system could possible correct this).

Instead of adding mounds of quest hubs, take the leve system to the next level. Add a new type of leve that outlines the quest issue and sends you on your merry way. Having all of the tasks that you could do centered at a single location was a wonderful move in the right direction, and I'm horribly upset that SE seems determined to move away from it. Here's a hint: the problem with leves was their content, not their implementation. There are far too few, that are all far too similar, and on the whole completely uninteresting.

A dungeon does not have to be instanced. Sure, they're good for providing certain challenges, but every dungeon in the game does not need to be. Non-instanced dungeons, when done correctly, provide a rather nice community aspect. People who've played games like Lineage and even games like Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 (the multiplayer servers, at least) know that the dungeons in those games were great places to meet up with people. Anyone remember RoV in EQ2, that low level undead place in Lineage2, or the crypts of Rovenna in NWN1? All utterly fantastic places to meet and group up with new players.

There's nothing inherently wrong with allowing player to solo as much as possible. However, it needs to be realized that once you pass a certain threshhold of solo-convenience, it has a direct effect on group play within the game. The simple version that if everything can be done at your convenience, a large portion of the playerbase will simply not bother with taking the time for group content. I have my theories about anti-social attraction in regards to MMORPG and similar social-based games, but that's another post.

I realize I'm rambling a bit at this point, but I just want to drive home the fact that I feel that SE is making a rather drastic mistake with their current direction.

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Amen Sista

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Given everything I've read about the changes to the game, I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling my account once billing starts.

I simply do not like the direction the game is going. Every blurb they've given us says that they want this game to firmly follow the Western model for MMORPGs. Auto-attack. Quest hubs. Instanced dungeons at all levels. Solo-focused gameplay. I realize that I don't speak for everyone, but I'm playing Final Fantasy because I'm looking for a Final Fantasy style JRPG MMO experience. SE, you cannot compete with Blizzard on their own turf. You're essentially trying to beat them in a genre they created. If you want this game to be successful, then you need to capture a segment of the market that is relatively untapped. Trying to scrape players from Blizzard's plate may work in the short term, but over the long term it simply will not work. If you're always copying, you're always one step behind.

For examples of this, just look at Warhammer, and more recently, Rift. Both games catered to Blizzard's playerbase, both say an initial surge of players, and both started hemorrhaging players shortly after launch.

Please, instead of copying standard conventions, take the foundation you have and make it awesome.

Instead of building a new battle system around auto-attack, take the current one, streamline stamina and TP usage, and make it worthwhile to not spam attacks (a simple combo system could possible correct this).

Instead of adding mounds of quest hubs, take the leve system to the next level. Add a new type of leve that outlines the quest issue and sends you on your merry way. Having all of the tasks that you could do centered at a single location was a wonderful move in the right direction, and I'm horribly upset that SE seems determined to move away from it. Here's a hint: the problem with leves was their content, not their implementation. There are far too few, that are all far too similar, and on the whole completely uninteresting.

A dungeon does not have to be instanced. Sure, they're good for providing certain challenges, but every dungeon in the game does not need to be. Non-instanced dungeons, when done correctly, provide a rather nice community aspect. People who've played games like Lineage and even games like Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 (the multiplayer servers, at least) know that the dungeons in those games were great places to meet up with people. Anyone remember RoV in EQ2, that low level undead place in Lineage2, or the crypts of Rovenna in NWN1? All utterly fantastic places to meet and group up with new players.

There's nothing inherently wrong with allowing player to solo as much as possible. However, it needs to be realized that once you pass a certain threshhold of solo-convenience, it has a direct effect on group play within the game. The simple version that if everything can be done at your convenience, a large portion of the playerbase will simply not bother with taking the time for group content. I have my theories about anti-social attraction in regards to MMORPG and similar social-based games, but that's another post.

I realize I'm rambling a bit at this point, but I just want to drive home the fact that I feel that SE is making a rather drastic mistake with their current direction.

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It was nice of you to type this long letter but SE doesn't care. All kidding aside, we don't know how this stuff is going to work. You haven't some of this stuff in action so you really don't know if you like it or not. I'm not for auto-attack but I'm keeping an open mind, I just want it to be faster than FFXI.

When Yoshida announced his "promotion" in December - or rather addressed us in January - I expected (at some point) to hear his sale's pitch. I expected him to lay out a master plan, a "stick around cause I'm gonna make things happen" diagram. Instead, he basically just said "stick around cause I'm gonna do something" and we've been strung along since then. The information we do receive is limited and vague. I don't have any clue the direction of the game.

Battle systems are going to be implemented without even telling the players what the devs see as problems in the battle system currently and how they hope to improve it in the future. We're simply told "new battle system" and that's that.

This is more information that I'm used to playing XI, but still I feel like I'm being strung along. I feel like I should be slightly more in-tune with what the devs are doing, especially when I'm being told (for 6 months) "Hang in there! We got some magic up our sleeves!"

Don't get me wrong, ok? I like XIV and I like Yoshida. I just wish I really did have an idea of where the game was going. I think many of us are nervous that these sweeping changes are going to alienate us from aspects of the game we currently like - and it would be nice to know (sooner rather than later) if the changes are going to be better for my play style or worse, before I get yet another skill to 50.

I hope we get an answer soon. XI is doing a much better job of projecting updates and explaining them earlier the last 2 years or so (competing for attention with your younger brother will do that to ya). Anyway, I'm not hopeful we'll be let into Yoshida's inner thoughts and inner circle anytime soon, but cheers if they actually listen to this thread.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

It was nice of you to type this long letter but SE doesn't care. All kidding aside, we don't know how this stuff is going to work. You haven't some of this stuff in action so you really don't know if you like it or not. I'm not for auto-attack but I'm keeping an open mind, I just want it to be faster than FFXI.

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That's why I said I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling, instead of 100% - I'm going to at least give the changes a shot, but I'm not optimistic about it.

Very well written Dreamer, and I must say I agree. I have always said to myself "Sure, I'll pay the monthly sub for playing FFXIV, even with a few issues", because at october/november last year the game seemed to have a (for me) really good direction, giving it that Final Fantasy feel I have been craving. I.e. player run companies with player build ships sounded BADASS, but that idea, and a few others, seemed to vanish when the new dev team took over.

Now I don't have the same feeling. The direction is lost and got replaced by what seemed like a panic reaction and a loss of focus to make this game a proper Final Fantasy game.

That's just how I feel. I'm not out to bash anyone who feels otherwise and if the majority truly wants this to a generic MMO with better graphics, then I guess so be it. It's just sad, and I for one won't be playing.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

That's why I said I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling, instead of 100% - I'm going to at least give the changes a shot, but I'm not optimistic about it.

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Fair enough.

Still tho, I don't think the game will ever really copy WoW. Like others have said, Dungeons, Quest Hubs, Instances: Blizzard didnt invent those. and there are already Instances in the game, the ones in the story and quest missions. They could very well mean they would do for dungeons as they have done for these, Parties enter an area separate from others in Eorzia. It doesnt have to be a completely different zone either. With their way of instances, they can easily turn any part of Eorzia into an instanced dungeon, as well as add new areas; caves, castles, whatnot.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

I simply do not like the direction the game is going. Every blurb they've given us says that they want this game to firmly follow the Western model for MMORPGs. Auto-attack. Quest hubs. Instanced dungeons at all levels. Solo-focused gameplay. I realize that I don't speak for everyone, but I'm playing Final Fantasy because I'm looking for a Final Fantasy style JRPG MMO experience. SE, you cannot compete with Blizzard on their own turf. You're essentially trying to beat them in a genre they created. If you want this game to be successful, then you need to capture a segment of the market that is relatively untapped. Trying to scrape players from Blizzard's plate may work in the short term, but over the long term it simply will not work. If you're always copying, you're always one step behind.

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This. Really, this.

In general, I'd say what makes people ballistic at every hint of new stuff (other than maybe the easter egg event, that was a real good one!) is the lack of confirmed word on where they're intending on taking the game. When there's no certainty about this, it makes the possible and impossible failures of every new addition and change loom that much larger. Not shutting out the ghosts of peoples' minds by stating a clear direction for their development can only make them worse off.
Example: if they stated they're not going to make a carbon copy of Wow, people wouldn't worry so much with every hint of Wow-like additions. Granted, they could also be a bit more clear in the update hints themselves, instead of presenting them in a way that does make them seem like carbon copies of Wow content. And really, how many players who're in it for the long term want to play a copy of another game?

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Originally Posted by JGwinters

if they stated they're not going to make a carbon copy of Wow, people wouldn't worry so much with every hint of Wow-like additions

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This has been stated many times. The only problem is they continue to introduce things that are ... inspired by WoW at least, if "inspired" is the right word. Actions are speaking louder than words, because words are vague and distant.

When they release dungeon content, and it turns out to be "Kill trash, kill mini boss, kill more trash, kill another mini boss, kill more trash, then kill dungeon boss" I will agree that it is pretty much a copy of other MMO's. Not to say it is a 'WoW' copy, because lots of mmo's do this other than WoW, rift obviously, and Aion does it as well with its dungeons. Even some much older.

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Originally Posted by Reika

When they release dungeon content, and it turns out to be "Kill trash, kill mini boss, kill more trash, kill another mini boss, kill more trash, then kill dungeon boss" I will agree that it is pretty much a copy of other MMO's. Not to say it is a 'WoW' copy, because lots of mmo's do this other than WoW, rift obviously, and Aion does it as well with its dungeons. Even some much older.

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How does this not describe Dynamis, though?

I mean, like you said, this concept isn't new. I think "implementation" will show how much this is or isn't like WoW. How much it feels like a Final Fantasy. Single player (J)RPG have been doing this for ages, too. That is (in essence) the definition of a RPG "dungeon."

You go in. Fight trash mobs every 3 steps, irritatingly, then get to a mini-boss, a save point, trash mobs, Boss, loot.

Not many other ways to run "a dungeon." Though many ways to make it not feel like WoW.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Given everything I've read about the changes to the game, I'm 90% certain I'll be cancelling my account once billing starts.

I simply do not like the direction the game is going. Every blurb they've given us says that they want this game to firmly follow the Western model for MMORPGs. Auto-attack. Quest hubs. Instanced dungeons at all levels. Solo-focused gameplay. I realize that I don't speak for everyone, but I'm playing Final Fantasy because I'm looking for a Final Fantasy style JRPG MMO experience. SE, you cannot compete with Blizzard on their own turf. You're essentially trying to beat them in a genre they created. If you want this game to be successful, then you need to capture a segment of the market that is relatively untapped. Trying to scrape players from Blizzard's plate may work in the short term, but over the long term it simply will not work. If you're always copying, you're always one step behind.

For examples of this, just look at Warhammer, and more recently, Rift. Both games catered to Blizzard's playerbase, both say an initial surge of players, and both started hemorrhaging players shortly after launch.

Please, instead of copying standard conventions, take the foundation you have and make it awesome.

Instead of building a new battle system around auto-attack, take the current one, streamline stamina and TP usage, and make it worthwhile to not spam attacks (a simple combo system could possible correct this).

Instead of adding mounds of quest hubs, take the leve system to the next level. Add a new type of leve that outlines the quest issue and sends you on your merry way. Having all of the tasks that you could do centered at a single location was a wonderful move in the right direction, and I'm horribly upset that SE seems determined to move away from it. Here's a hint: the problem with leves was their content, not their implementation. There are far too few, that are all far too similar, and on the whole completely uninteresting.

A dungeon does not have to be instanced. Sure, they're good for providing certain challenges, but every dungeon in the game does not need to be. Non-instanced dungeons, when done correctly, provide a rather nice community aspect. People who've played games like Lineage and even games like Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 (the multiplayer servers, at least) know that the dungeons in those games were great places to meet up with people. Anyone remember RoV in EQ2, that low level undead place in Lineage2, or the crypts of Rovenna in NWN1? All utterly fantastic places to meet and group up with new players.

There's nothing inherently wrong with allowing player to solo as much as possible. However, it needs to be realized that once you pass a certain threshhold of solo-convenience, it has a direct effect on group play within the game. The simple version that if everything can be done at your convenience, a large portion of the playerbase will simply not bother with taking the time for group content. I have my theories about anti-social attraction in regards to MMORPG and similar social-based games, but that's another post.

I realize I'm rambling a bit at this point, but I just want to drive home the fact that I feel that SE is making a rather drastic mistake with their current direction.

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100% agree with you. The more solo content a game has (as i experienced in several other mmos by now) the less community feeling you have. People barely talk (theres no need to) people dont party together (theres no need to) and they do instanced stuff if they see "LFG XXX" then get warped to a dungeon... best even cross server *ouch*.
The non-talk and solo mmo attracts a lot of jerks and disrespectful people, its far worse then ive seen in ffxi.
If you dont kinda "force" the people to play togehter to a certain point, they just wont, and that makes an mmo unnesessary as a desease.

I think if FFXIV turns further into an "western" style solo mmo there really isnt a point in playing it. As said... there are tons or more polished games that way on the marked already. And why playing an mmo and pay for it every month if you dont play and interact with other people? i dont even know why they are called mmorpgs anymore...

I prefer a good solo rpg over the classic wow-syle games by far.
But well, nobody knows how ffxiv will turn out and perhaps they know that they will absolutely fail if they westerize the game too much. ffxi was far more successeful then many other wester-wow-copied games in the long run... but only because it was special and not a wow-clone. Well.. i Do hope SE knows that.

Dungeons are fine, I hope they're a lot of fun and they're a challenge, however I agree that they need to take somethings from FFXI that made it great such as all the story driven content otherwise they'd be alienating their largest online fanbase and it'd be a stupid move.

Their direction right now is "Somewhere that is not where they are right now, but they have yet to define where that is At"

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Originally Posted by Shai

This has been stated many times. The only problem is they continue to introduce things that are ... inspired by WoW at least, if "inspired" is the right word. Actions are speaking louder than words, because words are vague and distant.

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It may just be that I haven't paid attention enough, but where have they stated it at all? Can't remember a single instance of defining a direction, let alone defining a direction not-Wow.

They could add sp rewards to the damn story line quests and some minor quests i have no need to complete a quest for 4k gil or a pair of shoes i already have 5 of. They have already ruined sp gain thru behest might as well make questing a bit more rewarding. At least the storyline quests are rather well done and enjoyable and small sp rewards at the end of them would be icing on the cake.


People need to stop it w/ the damn WOW comparisons. WOW was not the first MMO by any means and everything WOW has done was done before ;ff11 even did it before in some cases. Instance dungeons, killing X # of mobs for exp etc where all done long before wow existed get over yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Quisi

I don't understand why we can't lvl up with quests in this game? Imo those quest hubs will be the same as in other games. You do a quest.. kill 10 rats, you get 500 exp.

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Because in another games you have 1 Char = 1 Class. But here you have 1 Char = multiple classes. You can't quest leveling with each class, when you can do the quests only once each char.
Because of this I doubt they give us exp

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Originally Posted by JGwinters

It may just be that I haven't paid attention enough, but where have they stated it at all? Can't remember a single instance of defining a direction, let alone defining a direction not-Wow.

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I knew after I said "many times" I'd be called out because I only read it once. I'm fairly sure it was Yoshida in an interview. I thought I could find it, but didn't. It read something along the lines of - rest assured everything we add will be in the style of FF and XIV even if inspired by ideas from other games.

I have a pretty good memory but lose track of things like where I read it. I'm sorry. I checked the last few interviews I read but couldn't find it. I only did a quick scan for "WoW" and "Warcraft" though so maybe it wasn't named. I'm not gonna read every interview again for 1 sentence.

Again, I apologize for the "many times" phrase. ^^

I miss the "milestone" type quests from FFXI.

Things that you had to overcome to continue your own progression in the game. Like the sub-job quest and level cap quests. Also the Artifact Armour quests, map quests, kazham access, things like that.

I know they were annoying at times but they brought the community together. And made for a great sense of achievement when you finally completed them.

Also I would like the party seek system to be sorted. I liked the party seek system in FFXI. I have never joined a party to level in FFXIV as yet. The current system has its potential, but when ever I look theres never anything for me.

I used to enjoy putting my flag up and getting on with something else waiting for that invite tell. It was exciting when it came and then I made my way to the party.

And then there's the story missions. Again I would prefer some sort of party based battles as the missions progress. So far (I'm only rank 26) I just solo them with hardly a fight.

Since I started playing FFXIV I have just soloed and duoed with a friend. I would like to join a bigger Linkshell but its hard to really meet up with others to do so. The quests and missions I have mentioned above actually forced players to interact and usually helped us make friends and join up in groups.

I would like FFXIV to go this way. :)

A lot of moaning about SE fail "direction" for listening to it's players. I must be going blind but where is this direction again? SMMFH I'm still confused on it as nothing has been stated to point to WoW(Yoshi said the opposite). I also haven't seen anything added that just yells WoWCLONE! Dungeons and Quest hubs =/= WoWCLONE.

You were given instanced dungeons because you asked for it so why are you surprised they added it? You thought they were going to continue doing bad with the public by continuing to ignore us?
What else makes anyone think this is pointing at a WoWCLONE? If that's the case you guys chose to ask for everything WoW has. Remember most players on those polls played FFXI so why wouldn't they decide to listen?

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl...36kgy8gt57.jpg

Get over yourselves after reading how many people wanted Instance dungeons and seeing the results you should have quit by then. OMGAWD questhubs how could they add something that covers up some copy/paste terrain and gives us more content along with it. The horror of SE to give moar content to it's starving, crying, and confused playerbase.

I think people just want to know where the game is going, if SE even knows.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I think people just want to know where the game is going, if SE even knows.

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I agree I would love to know the direction so I can know if i'm going to stick with this game for years to come. It's just amazing people are pretending they know the direction based off of instanced dungeons(which they asked for) and questhubs(which every MMO have in one form or another?).

I confess, after reading the update, I'm a little concerned about the direction myself. Questhubs do sound like any other mmo. However, without any information, I'm going to refrain from speculating. Best to see what happens and give everything a good try before making any conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Shai

How does this not describe Dynamis, though?

I mean, like you said, this concept isn't new. I think "implementation" will show how much this is or isn't like WoW. How much it feels like a Final Fantasy. Single player (J)RPG have been doing this for ages, too. That is (in essence) the definition of a RPG "dungeon."

You go in. Fight trash mobs every 3 steps, irritatingly, then get to a mini-boss, a save point, trash mobs, Boss, loot.

Not many other ways to run "a dungeon." Though many ways to make it not feel like WoW.

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Only thing we can do is wait and see if they are 'Final Fantasy Dungeons' or 'WoW' dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Chezen

I confess, after reading the update, I'm a little concerned about the direction myself. Questhubs do sound like any other mmo. However, without any information, I'm going to refrain from speculating. Best to see what happens and give everything a good try before making any conclusions.

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They actually sound kinda like they'll be just like outposts or those campaign points in XI.

Personally, I am hoping for some Random Encounters with a Screen distortion effect! Which reminds me...

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Originally Posted by Reika

Personally, I am hoping for some Random Encounters with a Screen distortion effect! Which reminds me...

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What am I getting myself into, here?