Characters or Toons

i call it

... my precious!

Character, because i'm not watching a cartoon or playing lolWoW.

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Originally Posted by Nipaah

Character, people calling it toons make me cringe.

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Same. And it makes me think that the only other MMO they've played was Toontown.

Character or avatar.

This ain't no World of Warcraft here, son.

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Originally Posted by Wilan

What the hell "toon" means anyway.
A character, because that's what they are: character. Playable character, to be precise, opposed to non-playable character (or NPC).

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Error 1017 disagrees.

If you call it chars "toons" expect to be corrected. Ditto with calling DRG 'goons'. WTF comes up with these stupid terms??

I also cringe at 'DPS'.. because it means 'Damage Per Second'... which tanks, healers, and support classes do as well.

'DD' (Damage Dealer) was what we used in FFXI, and it is a far more accurate term for the role. Sadly though, the 'DPS' train has left the station and it's coded into the game... :(



But anyone who insists on using the terms 'Toons' or 'Goons' will find themselves company to RMT, gil-sellers, and obnoxious asshats in my /blacklist

I call it my char.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

If you call it chars "toons" expect to be corrected. Ditto with calling DRG 'goons'. WTF comes up with these stupid terms??

I also cringe at 'DPS'.. because it means 'Damage Per Second'... which tanks, healers, and support classes do as well.

'DD' (Damage Dealer) was what we used in FFXI, and it is a far more accurate term for the role. Sadly though, the 'DPS' train has left the station and it's coded into the game... :(



But anyone who insists on using the terms 'Toons' or 'Goons' will find themselves company to RMT, gil-sellers, and obnoxious asshats in my /blacklist

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I'm not sure I would blacklist anyone over it but using 'whisper' also gets me. I mean you have to type /tell -- is that hard to get it right? lol

I call them characters, because I'm a Pen&Paper-grown RPer.

People who flip at other people calling their own, paid-for collection of pixels something they feel comfortable with, I call immature assholes.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

lmao how ridiculous some of you people are. Do you balk when someone calls a car an auto, automobile, a vehicle, or a ride? Better turn off your TV and computer, and never venture past your fenced yard, you might have your fragile lexicon offended by someone with a different dialect. You might even run into people with a completely different language!

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Different places in the world and different cultures have different naming conventions and we would be intrigued if somebody start using a different term. Using your example, if somebody came up to me in the UK and called a car an "auto" I would notice pretty much straight away. The same could be said for if somebody called it an "automobile" - you would immediately assume they were posh.

Same goes for games so I don't think it's an issue being interested in this. I personally use character because this game is a lot less cartoon-like than most MMO's out there, and the name "toon" became a big hit from WoW where the characters are considerably cartoon-like.

first off... a cartoon is still most of all a two-dimensional, usually satirical (caricature, if you may) drawing. the 'animated' part is a relatively new definition, so get over it. obviously though, the 'original' cartoon makes it even more obvious why 'toon' for an MMO character is rather silly :P

then... DD also means direct damage, so using either DD or DPS is 'silly' if you come up with the argument 'dps means damage per second, that's not it' (and it would also mean people shouldn't ask for 'heals' but ALWAYS say 'need healer'.. why does nobody ever complain about people saying they 'have heals'? :P)

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Originally Posted by Quesse

I'm not sure I would blacklist anyone over it but using 'whisper' also gets me. I mean you have to type /tell -- is that hard to get it right? lol

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Well, other online games or services (MMOs, MUDs, MUSHes and BBS chats) have used /whisper for sending private messages to other players/users, so folks using that term were probably influenced by those. Referencing the post you replied to, I think DPS is a perfectly cromulent word :p because a DPS class is one that specializes in dealing high damage per second. Other classes may have some DPS, (and some DPS classes may have capacity for tanking or healing) but it's not their specialty.

As an old-school PnP RPGer, "character" is my term of choice.

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Originally Posted by amnie

then... DD also means direct damage, so using either DD or DPS is 'silly' if you come up with the argument 'dps means damage per second, that's not it' (and it would also mean people shouldn't ask for 'heals' but ALWAYS say 'need healer'.. why does nobody ever complain about people saying they 'have heals'? :P)

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The thing is DD can also mean damage dealer and is widely known as damage dealer. DPS has no other meaning other than damage per second so it's therefore always out of place. On the healer subject, I've never heard someone say they "have heals". If you say "I need a heal" or "need heal" you would be implying you only need 1 heal which would also make sense. It's all about context and the problem comes from education sadly. Text speak/internet speak etc has removed a lot of peoples needs for understanding contexts/plurals etc. Also auto-correct really doesn't help! I agree with you on toon though!

Toon sounds like some straight up nerd s**t.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Avatar/character.
Toon sounds painfully unrefined.

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I use the exact same thing. Toon makes sense for cartoony looking graphics like WoW but for FFXIV? Not so much. I avoid saying Toon no matter much though.

I allways use character. First time I heard the word toon was on this fourm. Replace the n with a L and you get the real meaning behind that name.

I tell you what doesn't make sense, calling people "tanks." Sure I may have armor, but I move on legs not tracks, I don't have a gas tank, and I certainly don't have a large caliber gun I use in combat from a distance (WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME). Instead I stand up front with a sword and shield and yell at things till they hit me. There's nothing remotely tankish about me.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

I'm not sure I would blacklist anyone over it but using 'whisper' also gets me. I mean you have to type /tell -- is that hard to get it right? lol

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I wouldn't blacklist someone for unconsciously saying 'toon' (out of habit, for instance), but I would correct them. If they stubbornly insisted on using the term, then they'll get the /blacklist.

Ditto with 'Goon'

'whisper' doesn't bother me as much, but it's not helpful at all to new players who need to get used to /tell.

Character unless it's a MMO where the graphics are "cartoony" like alot of the F2Ps :P

I like avatar or character, toon sounds like I'm in 'who framed roger rabbit' but to each his own, I do like the idea of calling it a persona :) SMT FTW LOL SUV

I allways use character. First time I heard the word toon was on this fourm. Replace the n with a L and you get the real meaning behind that name.

They're animated cartoon characters so I call them both. it is just easier to type toon really, char just don't sound right anyway and I don't feel like typing out the full word. We're not writing essays here so there is no right answer.

LMAO to those that would be petty and BL someone for calling something a toon. You really don't need to play a MMO b/c here in the real world there is going to be a whole lot of things you're not going to like.

Character. If for no other reason than that 'toon' is not an accurate description of what it is, strictly speaking. This game is not an animated cartoon. An avatar is technically the incarnation of a Hindu god, but even that is better than toon and would also be an acceptable description if The Guild hadn't made that word so dirty. Anyone using the word toon I automatically assume suffers from a poor vocabulary or doesn't care about things such as accuracy or using meaningful words. In my experience they're usually annoying or bad players, as well. That doesn't mean it bothers me, just that it reflects poorly on them. If character just takes too long for your poor little fingers to type, char is perfectly fine. As would be avi for avatar.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

... Do you balk when someone calls a car an auto, automobile, a vehicle, or a ride?

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As a matter of fact, if you told me you just bought a new auto my first reaction would probably be to look at you funny rather than congratulate you. The word you've chosen is not descriptive. You bought an auto what? On the other hand if you told me you were an auto trader that would make perfect sense and not bother me. Synonyms are one thing, but the way you use the language matters.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

lmao how ridiculous some of you people are. Do you balk when someone calls a car an auto, automobile, a vehicle, or a ride? Better turn off your TV and computer, and never venture past your fenced yard, you might have your fragile lexicon offended by someone with a different dialect. You might even run into people with a completely different language!

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Balk? No.

If you bought an auto, I would tilt my head and wonder if you bought a gun, car, or the evil robot from WALL-E.
If you bought an automobile, I would raise my eyebrow and wonder what sort of classy antique auction sold you that "automobile."
You bought a vehicle...? Was it a ship? A plane? A wormhole? Bus?
And if you bought a ride, well... either you bribed someone for a ride home, or you paid them for...

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Originally Posted by Invz

Character or Toon?

Which nomenclature do you use and why?

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The designation 'toon' comes from WoW, which the avatars in that game look like cartoons hence the shortened version of the name. This one personally uses the terms interchangeably as it has played a myriad of MMOs where either is used.

personally i use Char, but why the hell does anyone else care what someone else chooses to call it? does it offend you that much?

EDIT: this disconnect between how people refer to their game character's just seems like yet another excuse to try and make someone feel they are inferior -.-

I use character, I'll also toy with using persona.
I don't like the term toon. From what I know, the term originated from WoW, a game I'm not overly fond of so this might just be biased. I'm not gonna tell people to stop, I just like to joking say it's a character not a toon. But that's as far as I go. This is really just an opinionated question to answer.

char

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Character for me, although nothing against others saying toon, but to me I always picture roger rabbit saying stupidly "what are you a TOON"?????!!! And it somewhat bugs me lol

But really for me it's just due to my age I guess. It's like as we get older we wouldn't say boys and girls, it's men and women. Neither are WRONG, it's just the way it is for me. (Although never call a woman under 60 mam lol! And even then id still hesitate..learned that the hard way LOL).

As many others have said, I don't know why but toon bothers me and I go with character.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Balk? No.

If you bought an auto, I would tilt my head and wonder if you bought a gun, car, or the evil robot from WALL-E.
If you bought an automobile, I would raise my eyebrow and wonder what sort of classy antique auction sold you that "automobile."
You bought a vehicle...? Was it a ship? A plane? A wormhole? Bus?
And if you bought a ride, well... either you bribed someone for a ride home, or you paid them for...

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Just sayin', this post is not helping your case.

I only call something a toon if it's accompanied by "Cartoon" Graphics (like WoW). Otherwise it's always Character.

Even then I don't like calling something a toon.. just sounds degrading :/.

character, char or toon... I use them all at random. They're just words, they all reference to the avatar a person is playing with. To consider one or the other offensive or unrefined is giving them more significance than they are worth.

Character, flat out.
Though it's revolting hearing them called toons, it's their prerogative to do so. I won't get out the steak knife over it.

Character. Toon is one of those terms that I never liked when I heard it from WoW players. It's like cupine.

I've used the term Toon since the days of EverQuest, long before WoW. It's just what was coined at the time as what our character is, I still use the term and if people don't like it then oh well. There is no politically correct term to begin with, just what our opinion on what they should be called. It's been around for at least 13/14yrs as I've been playing MMO's since 1999. I see some players bash others in chat just because they say toon, who cares!! If you spend that much time being a jerk over their preference to call their TOON or CHARACTER or AVATAR, get over it. There's other things to talk about and many other things to worry about than this.

I haven't used the name 'toons' in quite a while. I prefer characters over anything else.

Character, toon sounds so odd. The general term is actually avatar so dont event know how toon came about.

I also ignore (or send messages to) people who say PST, because 'please say tell' sounds like they dont know english. Dont mind it at all if they say send tell or anything along those lines.

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Originally Posted by ForteXX

Character, toon sounds so odd. The general term is actually avatar so dont event know how toon came about.

I also ignore (or send messages to) people who say PST, because 'please say tell' sounds like they dont know english.

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PST - Please Send Tell, just an acronym, which to me makes sense. I'm guessing you also ignore players who say ARC? ARN? THM? What about when someone asks LFG? It appears you don't know English as well

Character, anything...anything but toon.