FFXIV for Mac

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Originally Posted by Grundy

Hey there! Come and see our new Macbook Air. Yes! That's right it's a shiny mac utilising a three year old CPU; Who needs hyperthreading when you don't get a CD Tray? And guess what, it's even more expensive than the old macbook air - it even comes with it's own box (that costs extra)!

What ... what do you mean you want to choose your own software, at Apple we control your life - and you get to pay for it! GNU public license .... ? Please don't swear in the store sir, you'll reduce the fanboys to tears. Now, look at the mac logo (shiny) and unzip your pants while I close this sale.

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Let me guess: you've been kicked out of a Apple Store once because you performed indecent acts with an iMac, and now you hold a grudge?

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Originally Posted by Naqaj

Let me guess: you've been kicked out of a Apple Store once because you performed indecent acts with an iMac, and now you hold a grudge?

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lol, no. This sums up how I feel about Apple.

http://scoopertino.com/wp-content/up...e-1024x998.jpg

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Originally Posted by Grundy

lol, no. This sums up how I feel about Apple.

http://scoopertino.com/wp-content/up...e-1024x998.jpg

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Lol, that's really funny.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Yeah, basing on what I saw on Youtube, since it's not my workfield =D
Just my opinion though. I'd like to know if you or someone can enlight me and others.

The More You Know
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I read about OpenGL and it's a good tech, but if you look up benchmarks it is always the loser due probably to driver support problems. That's on Windows. On Mac it is 10x worse. First of all, no multi video card support on OS X. So, you're down to 1 video card and with half the framerate.

Check out this graph of Portal running on PC vs. Mac. Check in a few weeks for a Portal 2 comparison.

http://themacgamer.com/2010/05/18/po...nce-mac-vs-pc/

Half Life 2

http://themacgamer.com/2010/05/28/ha...nce-mac-vs-pc/

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Originally Posted by Grundy

GNU public license .... ? Please don't swear in the store sir, you'll reduce the fanboys to tears.

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lol...

So since Yoshi stated recently,

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The PC specs will be lower than they are currently and we will be releasing the PS3 version.

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Any news for Mac version maybe? /flameshield ;)

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Originally Posted by Sweetheart

So since Yoshi stated recently, Any news for Mac version maybe? /flameshield ;)

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nope, and I doubt there will be any

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Originally Posted by Rau

Btw, I'm assuming you guys play on the Macbook Pros.

Have there been reports of playing on the normal Macbooks?

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I've tried it and it wouldn't even start.

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Originally Posted by Grundy

lol, no. This sums up how I feel about Apple.

http://scoopertino.com/wp-content/up...e-1024x998.jpg

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Pretty much how they work though. They take a product that isn't revolutionary and then go on about how it is revolutionary.
I like their products but damn, some of their stuff isn't exactly new but people act like it's the first of its kind.
They just have a great marketing division.

*flameshield*

P.S I've been using Macs a lot longer than PCs. I was brought up using them and only got my first PC to play video games on xD

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

nope, and I doubt there will be any

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Yeah prolly, but some yes, no or maybe, answer would be nice form any rep.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...XIV-on-Mac-OSX

Runs fine with Wine on my Macbook Pro.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Not to jack your thread... so if you like I'll delete this post, but also what about some type of portable OS content...
Bazaar or retainer management from the Iphone would be cool

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They announced that we would be able to manage our Chocobos from an upcoming app. I forgot the exact quote, but it had something to do with breeding.

This game can run on low-medium setting on a Macbook-Pro by Duel booting into a Windows 7/XP. i recommend XP for Bootcamping anyway Windows Vista/Windows 7 have a Control issue with anything installed on the same HDD.

PS: the Mac died the second they stopped rolling out with the G Series Processors, all you get now is a standard subpar quality IBM compatible PC with Control Chips that force you to buy outrageously priced upgrades.

I run the game on a top-of-the-line iMac in Bootcamp. It runs as well as it would on some other brand's hardware. Perhaps better, as Apple puts some pretty decent hardware in their machines, at least in my experience.

I would really like to play in OS X, though. I hate having to reboot so often, and I can't multitask while playing, as all of my work is on the OS X side.

Also, for what it's worth, I run WoW on the highest possible settings in OS X, and the game runs amazingly well. This iMac is a beast of a machine, I'll tell you what.

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Originally Posted by KamikazeMan

They announced that we would be able to manage our Chocobos from an upcoming app. I forgot the exact quote, but it had something to do with breeding.

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DAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNN... I said that almost a year ago.....
good times... Look at last year me...

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Originally Posted by Rousseau

I run the game on a top-of-the-line iMac in Bootcamp. It runs as well as it would on some other brand's hardware. Perhaps better, as Apple puts some pretty decent hardware in their machines, at least in my experience.

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Yea.. using great brands like Foxconn

oh wait

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Yea.. using great brands like Foxconn

oh wait

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there like clowns man you provoke one they start coming outta places you never thought possible

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Yea.. using great brands like Foxconn

oh wait

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Say what you will, but my Macs -always- outlast my PCs. Whatever the PC manufacturers use, it's obviously worse, or has been in the machines and parts I have purchased in the past.

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Originally Posted by Rousseau

Say what you will, but my Macs -always- outlast my PCs. Whatever the PC manufacturers use, it's obviously worse, or has been in the machines and parts I have purchased in the past.

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Because they are not the exact same parts?
Because every single component in your mac can be used to make a PC.. and since you paid to put windows on yours... the only difference between what you have now and what you'd have if you built a PC is price...
grats

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Because they are not the exact same parts?
Because every single component in your mac can be used to make a PC.. and since you paid to put windows on yours... the only difference between what you have now and what you'd have if you built a PC is price...
grats

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Why, thank you! I am quite happy with my acquisition. It's really nice having money to throw around. Don't be so jelly! :D

Mac... PC...
Use whatever you are best fit with. I use Mac so I can test things in both OS X and Windows environments when I develope things. One thing is for sure.
Mac = Work, Graphics | Windows = Games

Of course both environments can be used for both things, but from personal experience games run better on Windows (if they are Windows only) and working is more fluid and safe in a Mac OS X.
I personally have an iMac 27" with a Windows Bootcamp when I wanna play some FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Mac... PC...
Use whatever you are best fit with. I use Mac so I can test things in both OS X and Windows environments when I develope things. One thing is for sure.
Mac = Work, Graphics | Windows = Games

Of course both environments can be used for both things, but from personal experience games run better on Windows (if they are Windows only) and working is more fluid and safe in a Mac OS X.
I personally have an iMac 27" with a Windows Bootcamp when I wanna play some FFXIV.

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My brother is all about this... he is so 3DSmax and Blender and Lightwave that he NEEDS a mac....
and if you NEED a Mac for work and you through some bootcamp on there so you can game without buying another PC... then you're just a smart cookie...

edit: that 27" picture is BEAUTIFUL

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Originally Posted by Rousseau

Why, thank you! I am quite happy with my acquisition. It's really nice having money to throw around. Don't be so jelly! :D

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You're right.. You are free to buy what you like...
You just ruffle feathers when you say:

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Originally Posted by Rousseau

Say what you will, but my Macs -always- outlast my PCs.

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and

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Originally Posted by Rousseau

I run the game on a top-of-the-line iMac in Bootcamp. It runs as well as it would on some other brand's hardware. Perhaps better, as Apple puts some pretty decent hardware in their machines,

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when those things just aren't true (Again, being that they use THE EXACT same parts)

Dude, if I say that -I- have better luck with Macs, and that -in my experience- things run just as well or better, how is that not true? Do you have a camera in my house that I don't know about?

You jumped to conclusions about what I said about myself and are acting like I made huge blanket statements. The Mac brand has always meant quality to me, and I used to be a PC user. I had nothing but trouble with them. My run with Macs haven't been perfect, but they've been much better than with PCs. I attribute this to better hardware and/or craftsmanship. If the parts are the same now, I stand corrected, but I don't really care. It's not a big deal, and nothing of value was lost. Chill.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

My brother is all about this... he is so 3DSmax and Blender and Lightwave that he NEEDS a mac....
and if you NEED a Mac for work and you through some bootcamp on there so you can game without buying another PC... then you're just a smart cookie...

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I'm not a smart cookie, I'm Renshi, remember that!

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Originally Posted by Rydin

edit: that 27" picture is BEAUTIFUL

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I know rite...
http://i.imgur.com/bJMHp.jpg

I really hope with the new 2.0 client we will be able to run this on OS X too. :)

I've been playing on an early 2011 Macbook pro on medium-high settings. Very smooth, just update your drivers and use the safe overclocking method.

You can play on Mac and Linux now due to the wonderful people at the Wine project and their work porting a Native Win32 API to Unix. That is probably the way it's going to be for alternative OS's for some time as Microsoft's advertising department still seems to be able to convince people to buy their piece of crap software for some unknown reason. (And It is total crap people, stop buying it.)

That being said that statement is more due to the fact that the Unreal Engine has typically been ported to Mac and Linux, however the version they are doing for XIV has not yet been ported to Linux.. It does have mobile OS ports though and as we all know *nix rules the mobile market.

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Originally Posted by Jadi

You can play on Mac and Linux now due to the wonderful people at the Wine project and their work porting a Native Win32 API to Unix. That is probably the way it's going to be for alternative OS's for some time as Microsoft's advertising department still seems to be able to convince people to buy their piece of crap software for some unknown reason. (And It is total crap people, stop buying it.)

That being said that statement is more due to the fact that the Unreal Engine has typically been ported to Mac and Linux, however the version they are doing for XIV has not yet been ported to Linux.. It does have mobile OS ports though and as we all know *nix rules the mobile market.

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Who said i bought it?

For anyone assuming that a Foxconn made computer is the same across brands you are wrong.

Foxconn performs final assembly. Many of the companies that use Foxconn for final assembly, manage and dictate to Foxconn the suppliers of the components used in final assembly.

While at b-school I toured Dell. They were proud of the fact that every 2 to 4 weeks they rebid all of the suppliers for a PC model line to get lower prices. So for a given model you actually had different RAM, motherboards, and other components from week to week. As long as they met the sold specs it was fine, but the part supplier can still change constantly. I know this caused our IT department pain because they could not standardize builds purely by model number when something like a motherboard could change mid product life cycle.

You won't see that in an Apple product (and other companies in many other industries). Commitment to quality often means specifying the exact plant that a part from a particular supplier comes from and providing that part to your final assembler. It's the only way to ensure a consistent quality component, and hence a quality final product.

Seems to me there are a few ppl here who drank the iKool-aid

Letting ppl have the ability to play on a mac would be a great thing, but the relatively small number of ppl who use them couple with the costs of printing discs, tweaking things to work on a mac and even rewriting in-game script (tutorials and such) and the booklets for mac users would not really be cost effective.

reguardless apple isnt really made for gaming, they are overpriced machines that at one time did a few things better than a pc but pc has caught up and surpassed apple in many ways so you have an overpriced, mid-quality pc mostly that still cant run everything it should. Its more a status thing at this point. Even indesign, photoshop, autocad and what not run better for me on my pc and hp laptop than on my apple with fewer problems, crashes and stops. Even the design dept at school scrapped all their macs for pc cause the pc performed better.

Cant tell that to the iCult tho, they will summon the ghost of Steve Jobs bring a blight upon your house

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Seems to me there are a few ppl here who drank the iKool-aid

Letting ppl have the ability to play on a mac would be a great thing, but the relatively small number of ppl who use them couple with the costs of printing discs, tweaking things to work on a mac and even rewriting in-game script (tutorials and such) and the booklets for mac users would not really be cost effective.

reguardless apple isnt really made for gaming, they are overpriced machines that at one time did a few things better than a pc but pc has caught up and surpassed apple in many ways so you have an overpriced, mid-quality pc mostly that still cant run everything it should. Its more a status thing at this point. Even indesign, photoshop, autocad and what not run better for me on my pc and hp laptop than on my apple with fewer problems, crashes and stops. Even the design dept at school scrapped all their macs for pc cause the pc performed better.

Cant tell that to the iCult tho, they will summon the ghost of Steve Jobs bring a blight upon your house

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PC's didn't surpass macs, Apple decided to go backwards instead of forwards.

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Originally Posted by Naylia

While at b-school I toured Dell. They were proud of the fact that every 2 to 4 weeks they rebid all of the suppliers for a PC model line to get lower prices. So for a given model you actually had different RAM, motherboards, and other components from week to week. As long as they met the sold specs it was fine, but the part supplier can still change constantly. I know this caused our IT department pain because they could not standardize builds purely by model number when something like a motherboard could change mid product life cycle.

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Who like Dell? Seriously.. just build a PC

Mac's will have issues supporting the graphics requirements of the game. the game would need to be recoded to work with Mac, Ontop of the fact that they are rushing to remake the game, and launch on PS3, it would be highly unlikely they are releasing a mac title.

i currently play on a 2011 Macbook Pro w/ 8GB SODIMM, SSD when I'm away from my PC.. Bootcamped running windows 7 and have 0 issues playing with all settings at standard or higher.

There is more to buying a laptop than the guts.. I bought my macbook pro because the engineering and design of the unibody case, touch pad, power adapter, screen crispness and everything else kicks the living crap out of every laptop i've owned..

most people who "hate macs" do so because they can't afford it.

Just because you can't afford a benz doesn't mean it sucks..

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Originally Posted by Forbin

i currently play on a 2011 Macbook Pro w/ 8GB SODIMM, SSD when I'm away from my PC.. Bootcamped running windows 7 and have 0 issues playing with all settings at standard or higher.

There is more to buying a laptop than the guts.. I bought my macbook pro because the engineering and design of the unibody case, touch pad, power adapter, screen crispness and everything else kicks the living crap out of every laptop i've owned..

most people who "hate macs" do so because they can't afford it.

Just because you can't afford a benz doesn't mean it sucks..

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True... a laptop is very dependent on sturdy construction and heat management/airflow

What GPU does your laptop use?
Laptops are just a different beast than desktops....
A good gaming laptop from, say Alienware (I hate that they're owned by Dell now), would run you just as much as a Mac Book
I don't really laptop Game though....
As far as desktops... you can completely replicate Mac Pro hardware, get an Antec 900 or HAF case and be no worse for the wear
Even if you CAN afford a Mac Pro... Unless you are using MAC specific software (Like LOGIC or Digital Performer), Then I'd really suggest a PC
For a pure gaming machine... you wouldn't even discuss apple

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Originally Posted by Rydin

True... a laptop is very dependent on sturdy construction and heat management/airflow

What GPU does your laptop use?
Laptops are just a different beast than desktops....
A good gaming laptop from, say Alienware (I hate that they're owned by Dell now), would run you just as much as a Mac Book
I don't really laptop Game though....
As far as desktops... you can completely replicate Mac Pro hardware, get an Antec 900 or HAF case and be no worse for the wear
Even if you CAN afford a Mac Pro... Unless you are using MAC specific software (Like LOGIC or Digital Performer), Then I'd really suggest a PC
For a pure gaming machine... you wouldn't even discuss apple

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i absolutely agree, if my only mission i life was to game :) I'd want a PC.. My MacBook pro is an i7 model w/ intel hd 3000 gpu.

I bought the macbook pro because its extremely cool(temp wise), great look and feel, and very very very quiet. I am also a developer and develop in a linux environment for the past 10 or so years. I absolutely love my macbook pro and probably won't buy any other laptop ever again. I LOVE the hardware internal and external..

This is my first mac anything computer wise.. I've had an iphone since the original and now a iphone 4...