Scholar... SAY WHUT?

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Originally Posted by Iamcardboard

Don't forget about this from February.

I'm still on the fence, not sure what to believe. Just so long as WHM stays relevant, I'll be happy.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, that can easily be a fake. I mean, look at these:

http://s14.postimg.org/hyjsau0r5/Nec...r_Unlocked.png
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...erUnlocked.png

Ferne hinting it might be a new job after all....

Tbh... I like being hyped even if it proves to be wrong (hey, it's a nice feeling). I'd like to eventually see Necromancer or Dancer job make it in.

EDIT: NECRODANCER!!!

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Originally Posted by Amaetera

Ahem, what makes me so happy is this sentence made by Fernehalwes. If it was Arcanist on this wallpaper, why being so secret about it ? We know about the Arcanist so there's no secret to keep to say that the elezen with the book is Arcanist. But no, Fernehalwes remained very evasive.

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I wouldn't be so happy, last time Ferne confirmed something like that was that the source of the Echo was Siren >_>

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Originally Posted by Amaetera

Fernehalwes: Rumor has it that all of the gear shown here is actually in the game! Which would mean that bookish beauty in the mortar board on the far right is...!!!

Well i thought at first that it was Arcanist but i changed my mind reading all posts about that. I think it's really Scholar

- Hiiii i'm pleased ! :D -

Ahem, what makes me so happy is this sentence made by Fernehalwes. If it was Arcanist on this wallpaper, why being so secret about it ? We know about the Arcanist so there's no secret to keep to say that the elezen with the book is Arcanist. But no, Fernehalwes remained very evasive.

I really think it's Scholar (and hope so :p)

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He could just be screwing with us. It wouldn't be the first time.

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

NECRODANCER!!!

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I think they might have a job for you under the director of ceremonies at the Arrzanaeth Ossuary.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I think they might have a job for you under the director of ceremonies at the Arrzanaeth Ossuary.

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I'll take it! Even if the pay is zero gil! Even if I have to pay them! I'll take it a thousand times!

*tries to calm down and stop hyperventilating*

o.o

Ferne is such a troll :/

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

Ferne hinting it might be a new job after all....

Tbh... I like being hyped even if it proves to be wrong (hey, it's a nice feeling). I'd like to eventually see Necromancer or Dancer job make it in.

EDIT: NECRODANCER!!!

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Michael Jackson AF, Make it happen SE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsERQ-eJ4-Q

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Michael Jackson AF

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I was in the middle of looking up a good GIF to add to this thread and yeh beat me to it! lol

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

NECRODANCER!!!

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http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/En...LERmjdance.gif
Meanwhile, at the Thaumaturge Guild...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

[IMG] Le dance gif[/IMG]
Meanwhile, at the Thaumaturge Guild...

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XD omgosh /thumbup

Well... in the case that is it actually a Scholar... I would be upset if they still had control of Carbuncle.
There are so many other mage jobs to be had instead... Blue, Red or Green

But I still think that it is only an Arcanist and we are only just seeing new headgear along with many more new gear items in the picture.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Meanwhile, at the Thaumaturge Guild...

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Hell yes!

Damn it. . . . I want this to be a real thing so bad now .___.

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Originally Posted by hideka

how come nobody is talking about the fact that SE snuck a scholar into the Desktop artwork they recently released?
http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte.../wallpaper.jpg

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FYI guys they said summoner was going to have a book!! Sooooo couldn't that be the Arcainist? No? Well maybe it is seems like everyone is wearing there AF so I guess it couldn't be Arcainist hmmmm SE says we're getting a scholar then!!!

Wtf I love this bro

my thought is that they are giving classes; class specific armor. if you look around the outside there are a few others that could potentially be for classes like the top left PUG, especially after the blog post makes a reference to all the ARMOR in the picture being in game and not about classes/jobs

It's Quistis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

The only thing that speaks against arcanist is, that only jobs are displayed on that artwork.

ah well and the second.. that this is definatley scholar AF

scholar could be a rip off of arcanist since scholar is an enfeebling / debuffing job... which almost fits the arcanist role perfect. so there could be two paths to chose from.

arcanist is a pet class with debuff skills..

arcanist -> scholar (specialized into debuffs and enfeebling)
arcanist -> summoner (specialized in pets)

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This definitely makes sense to me! Yoshi has said something to the effect that they were considering multiple jobs per class. I just hope summoner is DD focused and Scholar is support.

Lol, I've seen people, hopefully joking, talking about musketeer > scholar. I really highly doubt it... Someone make a gun book just in case!

I posted this in the lore forum, but I'll drop it here as well. After much philosophical contmplation inspired by the works of Aristotle, I have come to the conclusion that the Arcanist is the scholar of the XIV universe.

Around Limsa, various people will refer to those that work in Maelvan's Gate, the customs house and arcanist's guild of Limsa Lominsa, as scholars or "scholarly types".

Like many of the FF games, they have bent the class so that it is not pathetically weak and useless in most respects. In FFIII, it was a utility class that had very little destructive power in its own right. In FFIV The After Years, the called the "scholar" a secretary - she did a bit more than just be a scholar.
Likewise, the Arcanist is a scholar and then a bit more. It is the wisdom upon which the art of summoning is founded. It is a way of making every class capable of being played seriously through endgame, much like how the conjurer is a bit more than a healing class and gladiator is a bit more than a shield wall - that is where the jobs come in.

As for the artwork of 9 characters? They're simply showing off the new features of the combat system, 8 of which are jobs.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

~Snip~

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Since you're posting that here as well...

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Originally Posted by Bowen

Pretty much this.

There's no denying that it looks like Scholar. It has the hat and everything. The thing is though, Arcanists are Scholars. Just look at this quest text from the quest "Seal Rock":

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Shortly after the island first appeared, the Knights of the Barracuda and the scholars at Mealvaan's Gate [Arcanist's Guild] began to suppress the rumors as well as possible while limiting access to the area for investigation, an authority immediately challenged by pirate and Sahagin alike.

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And some dialog as well!

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Sthalmann
There's little we can do about that now. Though it would have been nice to join the scholars on this trip.

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Source

In the end, both sides are right. It's just Arcanist, but the Arcanists of FFXIV are Scholars.

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2 jobs 1 class.

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Originally Posted by Destain

This definitely makes sense to me! Yoshi has said something to the effect that they were considering multiple jobs per class. I just hope summoner is DD focused and Scholar is support.

Lol, I've seen people, hopefully joking, talking about musketeer > scholar. I really highly doubt it... Someone make a gun book just in case!

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What about a gun hidden in a book ??
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc...rwmo1_1280.jpg

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

What about a gun hidden in a book

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I'LL TAKE IT.

Just to stir the coals here (because I'm trying so hard to not let my gut instinct influence me before this inevitably gets gatling'd at Yoshida's twitter in the next LIVE letter or at E3...), what does each side of this debate make of the fact that this is the same character making the same facial expression?

http://ffxiv.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/arcanist.jpg
http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...arr-banner.jpg

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Originally Posted by YeaniNah

What about a gun hidden in a book ??
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc...rwmo1_1280.jpg

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I'll take it! Gun blades pshhh! gun books is where it's at!

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I'LL TAKE IT.

Just to stir the coals here (because I'm trying so hard to not let my gut instinct influence me before this inevitably gets gatling'd at Yoshida's twitter in the next LIVE letter or at E3...), what does each side of this debate make of the fact that this is the same character making the same facial expression?

http://ffxiv.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/arcanist.jpg
http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...arr-banner.jpg

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She unlocked Scholar from Arcanist and is now running w/ the big boys! and dyed her hair for white to blonde in the process?

I don't know if it's been said elsewhere, but it's worth noting that every character in the foreground portrays a different job, except maybe our scholar/arcanist friend, here. Summoner is on the left, so...

But on the other hand, the arguments for her being an arcanist are pretty strong, too. Bah D:

Just pure speculation here but....

We have two jobs able to tank, PLD and WAR, but only one healer class. SCH, far as I could remember, could heal. I could see the DEV seeing we lacked healing options and adding another healing job for launch.

Lord knows, as a main healer, I would love have more healing class options.

Pure speculation from a development stand point.

I'm going to quote myself because I can't believe that this is still going on.

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

There's been massive amounts of debated and arguments, each with good points on each side for it being SCH, and points for it being ACN.

Bottom line is we just don't know yet. I hope it IS SCH, because we need another healer job, and I loved it in XI =$ But there's still the possibility that it is just ACN.

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Whhhy is this still being discussed!? Let's just sssh and wait, shall we? =b

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

I'm going to quote myself because I can't believe that this is still going on.



Whhhy is this still being discussed!? Let's just sssh and wait, shall we? =b

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How about you sssh or don't read the threads. If we wanna talk about it we will talk about it :P

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Originally Posted by Destain

How about you sssh or don't read the threads. If we wanna talk about it we will talk out it :P

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1) I don't sssh
2) I can't help myself
3) SCIENCE!

Sooo... I'm borrowing this from gamer-escape, but Fernehalwes seems to be hinting at this actually being a SCH.

http://gamerescape.com/2013/05/24/si...rs/#more-25006

I still agree however that the argument on both sides is strong for either ARC, or SCH.
It's giving me anxiety not knowing which is which. lmao

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Originally Posted by SydeBeheln

Sooo... I'm borrowing this from gamer-escape, but Fernehalwes seems to be hinting at this actually being a SCH.

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Don't take Ferne's jokes too close to heart. He's actually well-involved with the community, to the point he knows how to push our buttons >_>
I am fairly sure he said that in joke tone only because, you know, we HAVE been making a fuss over that. Had we never, he wouldn't have said that.

There's sufficient arguments on all sides, though, yeah! Personally I think the only thing left to do is wait and see

Ferne is trolling...he does that with each rumor. He mentioned the "face north, during 100% moon" etc rumor from XI in one of the earlier blog posts. It's how he rolls and doesn't confirm anything.

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

Whhhy is this still being discussed!? Let's just sssh and wait, shall we? =b

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I think it's more important to just not commit to a side than to not talk about it at all with matters like these, but I'll give you this: yes, almost every single one of these threads is chock full of people not reading the thread, stating one of the two over-stated dead-horse-beating points of evidence, and then their idea of what it means, lol.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I think it's more important to just not commit to a side than to not talk about it at all with matters like these, but I'll give you this: yes, almost every single one of these threads is chock full of people not reading the thread, stating one of the two over-stated dead-horse-beating points of evidence, and then their idea of what it means, lol.

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I guess =b It's just the same points over and over and over again and people saying "It's obviously this, because [add cliché remark]". Everything everyone says is contradicting and it's just frustrating not knowing the truth!
/cry

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Originally Posted by Fantasia

Whhhy is this still being discussed!? Let's just sssh and wait, shall we? =b

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Newton says: A body at rest or in a state of uniform hype shall remain at rest or in that state of uniform hype unless acted upon by an external lore bomb.

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Originally Posted by Destain

She unlocked Scholar from Arcanist and is now running w/ the big boys! and dyed her hair for white to blonde in the process?

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I think the change in colour is simply a product of the artwork having a slightly orange tinge to it. You can tell especially by looking at how orange her skin is.

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Originally Posted by Destain

She unlocked Scholar from Arcanist and is now running w/ the big boys! and dyed her hair for white to blonde in the process?

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She was just not lucky. They told her to not stand to long behind the Great Buffalo XD lollllll

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Newton says: A body at rest or in a state of uniform hype shall remain at rest or in that state of uniform hype unless acted upon by an external lore bomb.

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And Einstein said: Insanity is the act of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Which pretty much sums up these threads!

Eh let's be honest, it's the Scholar Job. They needed to ensure that there was a healthy choice between castors, melee, and support classes.

Arcanist is going to be the first class with 2 job options.

arcanist being a hybrid between pet class / debuff class

he specializes by equipping the job stones of:

arcanist -> scholar (specialization into debuff/enfeebling)
arcanist -> summoner (specialization into pets and summoning)

and for what are jobs for`? specialization. and then it makes sense that summoner is not going to have access to carbuncle anymore, because scholar wont so either.


the new artwork would be quiet inconsistent just showing jobs on that artwork and then a class.. and since when the classes do wear job specific artifact gear, which is clearly a scholar AF.

very unlikely. And yoshida also said everytime that there are too less mage classes/jobs in the game.


and also... if it is going to be like in 1.0. and the jobs just coming along with 5 new exklusive skills, and knowing that summoner is going to have 4 summons (4 new skills).. he would just have one new skill left for the debuffer role.. which is also very unlikely.

i think the summoner is getting 5 new skills:
- ifrit
- garuda
- titan (?)
- fourth summon which is unknown
- fifth skill is going to be something like astral flow (trait), to use the special abillity of the summons

and scholar is going to have new 5 debuff skills .. something like:
- a trait that converts the next debuff skill into an aeo effect
- debuff / absorb attb or whatever
- debuff /absorb attb
- damage / debuff spell (which debuffs the element of their dmg skill) - something like the thaumaturge had in 1.0. in the very beginning
- damage spell (life drain or whatever)

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Arcanist is going to be the first class with 2 job options.

arcanist being a hybrid between pet class / debuff class

he specializes by equipping the job stones of:

arcanist -> scholar (specialization into debuff/enfeebling)
arcanist -> summoner (specialization into pets and summoning)

and for what are jobs for`? specialization. and then it makes sense that summoner is not going to have access to carbuncle anymore, because scholar wont so either.


the new artwork would be quiet inconsistent just showing jobs on that artwork and then a class.. and since when the classes do wear job specific artifact gear, which is clearly a scholar AF.

very unlikely. And yoshida also said everytime that there are too less mage classes/jobs in the game.


and also... if it is going to be like in 1.0. and the jobs just coming along with 5 new exklusive skills, and knowing that summoner is going to have 4 summons (4 new skills).. he would just have one new skill left for the debuffer role.. which is also very unlikely.

i think the summoner is getting 5 new skills:
- ifrit
- garuda
- titan (?)
- fourth summon which is unknown
- fifth skill is going to be something like astral flow (trait), to use the special abillity of the summons

and scholar is going to have new 5 debuff skills .. something like:
- a trait that converts the next debuff skill into an aeo effect
- debuff / absorb attb or whatever
- debuff /absorb attb
- damage / debuff spell (which debuffs the element of their dmg skill) - something like the thaumaturge had in 1.0. in the very beginning
- damage spell (life drain or whatever)

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One thing I notice about rebuffed classes is, what do they do when the mob has boss immunity? (As in, they resist certain spells outright, or have high resistance overall)