F'lhaminn

Will there we go :) now we know.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Will there we go :) now we know.

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Know what? we havent been told anything. all ferne has done is given us speculation instead of an answer, certainly mixed clan traits were present during 1.0 so im not very happy to accept this as a response.

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Originally Posted by Adelle

Know what? we havent been told anything. all ferne has done is given us speculation instead of an answer, certainly mixed clan traits were present during 1.0 so im not very happy to accept this as a response.

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Since F'lhaminn was such a prominent character in 1.0, I forsee her presence in 2.0 and there may be storyline content that would delve into her and her lineage. Usually if Ferne can tell us stuff, he will. He's generally only vague with good reason^^;

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Originally Posted by Adelle

Know what? we havent been told anything. all ferne has done is given us speculation instead of an answer, certainly mixed clan traits were present during 1.0 so im not very happy to accept this as a response.

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how i understand it was she from the sun and somewhere in her family line was mix by the moon. How hard is that to understand? she still from the sun clan just look like the moon.

It still a answer even if it half ass answer that they always end up giving us it's better then noting.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hello guys!

The same topic was brought up in the JP forums, so the loremasters decided to make an official response.
Here is a rough translation of what it says:

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As is indicated by the name, F'lhaminn is a member of the F (bear) Seeker of the Sun tribe. However, as many of you have pointed out, she has many physical features which are attributed to Keepers of the Moon (such as iris shape, skin color, etc). As many of you have also noticed, there have been other characters which have displayed the features of one clan, while following the naming conventions of another. This can be attributed to two factors.

One: It could merely be a genetic anomaly. Just because certain races have a tendency to display certain features (pointed ears, long legs, darker or lighter skin, soul-piercing eyes), doesn't mean that once every thousand or ten thousand births, something deviates from the rules.

Two: It could be that a parent or grandparent was of a different clan, and the features of that clan were passed down. We know for certain that F'lhaminn was raised as a Seeker of the Sun, but we would have to look further down her family tree for clues why she has the appearance of a Keeper of the Moon.

Finally, some good news for our role-players who want a little more spice in their character's history--in character creation for ARR, we'll be allowing the mixing and matching of certain features between clans, so it will be possible to create a Keeper of the Moon-like Seeker of the Sun (or vice versa).

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Sweet! Thanks for the info Fern!

I hope there will be something in ARR regarding her back story. Would be really neat :3

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hello guys!

The same topic was brought up in the JP forums, so the loremasters decided to make an official response.
Here is a rough translation of what it says:

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As is indicated by the name, F'lhaminn is a member of the F (bear) Seeker of the Sun tribe. However, as many of you have pointed out, she has many physical features which are attributed to Keepers of the Moon (such as iris shape, skin color, etc). As many of you have also noticed, there have been other characters which have displayed the features of one clan, while following the naming conventions of another. This can be attributed to two factors.

One: It could merely be a genetic anomaly. Just because certain races have a tendency to display certain features (pointed ears, long legs, darker or lighter skin, soul-piercing eyes), doesn't mean that once every thousand or ten thousand births, something deviates from the rules.

Two: It could be that a parent or grandparent was of a different clan, and the features of that clan were passed down. We know for certain that F'lhaminn was raised as a Seeker of the Sun, but we would have to look further down her family tree for clues why she has the appearance of a Keeper of the Moon.

Finally, some good news for our role-players who want a little more spice in their character's history--in character creation for ARR, we'll be allowing the mixing and matching of certain features between clans, so it will be possible to create a Keeper of the Moon-like Seeker of the Sun (or vice versa).

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can i glean from this then....hypotheticly...i could take the eyebrows from a certain male midlander~and glue them to my male highlander's brow line? thanks.

Nice we are one step closer to a mi'quote-elzen hybrid

I always thought she was a keeper. Baw.

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Originally Posted by Beowolf

can i glean from this then....hypotheticly...i could take the eyebrows from a certain male midlander~and glue them to my male highlander's brow line? thanks.

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Sorry, hair transplants will not be offered at the barber's shop. You'll have to make do like every other highlander out there and glue a couple snurble tufts onto your noggin'.

(I jest, I have no clue, but it'd be nice to see!...the eyebrows, real ones that is..not snurble fuzz... ; ;)

I love this. I've always enjoyed my moon cat but it would be nice to have more options so she could be a mix race like so many of us are. I don't even remember what mix of cultures I have in me. I'm a mutt :)

Yea, it also means we can have a clan-based first name, but not feel so limited when it comes to surnames, if mixed clans are possible!

Boob size, that is all.

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Boob size, that is all.

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I second this motion. It is annoying that the the two clans have a difference in max and min chest size.
Also fangs on a Seeker of the Sun would be cool.

But as post 24 by Fern has stated ^_^ - we can mix... some things XD

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Originally Posted by Niqote

I second this motion. It is annoying that the the two clans have a difference in max and min chest size.
Also fangs on a Seeker of the Sun would be cool.

But as post 24 by Fern has stated ^_^ - we can mix... some things XD

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I'm hoping for slit eyes to go along with my shiny fangs

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

I'm hoping for slit eyes to go along with my shiny fangs

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They've gotta leave something to tell them apart other than their naming conventions, which have a habit of lying in regard to a clan identifier. If I know the one or two traits that are always present and don't cross over, I should be able to tell any NPC or PC's clan just from looking at them or the concept is kind of pointless beyond, "I have all Seekers of the Sun traits, but I like night better, so I'm a Keeper. /dealwithitsunglasses"

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

They've gotta leave something to tell them apart other than their naming conventions, which have a habit of lying in regard to a clan identifier. If I know the one or two traits that are always present and don't cross over, I should be able to tell any NPC or PC's clan just from looking at them or the concept is kind of pointless beyond, "I have all Seekers of the Sun traits, but I like night better, so I'm a Keeper. /dealwithitsunglasses"

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Yeah well the NPC in question shares traits of 2 clans so i don't see why my character couldn't either, there are plenty of more obvious differences in the clans aside from fangs and eyes which are only visible if you stare hard.

Keepers of the moon have a lot more grey-scaleish tone skin while the sun has earth tone, more like human colored skin, tail length for moon cats, etc. All these can stay exclusive but as Ferne has already clearly pointed out we WILL be given the option to mix and match some features like the NPC in OP.

tl;dr: YOU /dealwithitsunglasses :P

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Yeah well the NPC in question shares traits of 2 clans so i don't see why my character couldn't either, there are plenty of more obvious differences in the clans aside from fangs and eyes which are only visible if you stare hard.

Keepers of the moon have a lot more grey-scaleish tone skin while the sun has earth tone, more like human colored skin, tail length for moon cats, etc. All these can stay exclusive but as Ferne has already clearly pointed out we WILL be given the option to mix and match some features like the NPC in OP.

tl;dr: YOU /dealwithitsunglasses :P

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You didn't get what he meant...he was saying 'As long as I know which1-2 features DON'T change between the clans, I will be able to ID any NPC/PC's clan' He doesn't care that some features are cross-clan and/or if people decide to have a 'mixed clan character/NPC'. He just is waiting to take note of what features can't cross over and then use those markers to identify clan.

At this point why not just get rid of clans if youre not going to keep traits consistent and make them convoluted to the point where it doesnt even matter anymore?