Request for More Character Customization Options

Would love to see more customization options with just what it's in game already. Don't need more hair, just a way to mix up body types some more and maybe even unlock some of those race/gender-locked hairs? That'd be neat!

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Originally Posted by TheDustyOne

Here's my wishlist:

• Faces. Lots of faces. Every race only has about 4 (sans midlanders, not sure of any other exceptions), and female Elezen really only have 2; the other 2 are the same as the first ones but with makeup. Also highlander men still need an option for eyebrows, lore be damned. Separating the horns from Au Ra would be nice too, give them more horns while we're at it.

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God, I feel like I'm going insane every time I have to tell non fem elezen players about that neat 'trivia' thing but yes. That's been driving me up a wall ever since I realized it. Which is especially insane, given how male elezen have some of the most differentiated facial options available to players with the grandpa face and the visibly younger face. All while the two middle-ground adult male elezen faces remain distinguishable from each other too.

Beyond that, it's also sad to me that we haven't gotten a better variety of hairstyles in a while. Most noticeably - black hairstyles. Other games manage to do this and keep it within poly count. If Wizard101 can do it, then XIV doesn't really have an excuse. Clever use of textures can do a lot of the heavy lifting for you if you absolutely need to, but it's not 2013 anymore. The poly excuse doesn't really hold water there.

For a game that heavily advertises its story and the importance of the WoL/PC and being able to roleplay as them, it's really hard to get into it because of how lacking the CC options are in game.

Howdy! Signed up for the forums just to make this message if that is indicative of how important I feel this thread is.

Here's my wishlist of items I would like to see in character creation:

1) Body sliders. I would love more muscle definition and the ability to make larger, plus sized characters. A larger spectrum chest slider is also a huge desire as someone who has a gender non-conforming character. I would be happy to have a flat chested character or even just larger chests for those that have curvier characters!
2) More scale options for Au Ra. We don't necessarily need to give them a entire spectrum of colors, but it would be nice to see more options than being restricted to a sub category that determines black or white scales only.
3) As previously mentioned, more horn options and/or the ability for Auri characters to have any horn type. Hiding horns would also be nice too for the players that like to hide them.
4) More tattoo, scar, and freckle options. I think these options are extremely desired by the player base.
5) Not as huge a priority, but more tail options for miqo, auri, and viera players. It's a crying shame they don't have the option for cute bun tails!
6) Pronoun options would be fantastic.

I think that's it! I hope this feedback helps with future development.

Anyone else remember when, I think YoshiP, said "don't you guys want different body types?" when talking about us wanting male viera? I cried a little inside thinking he may believe we don't just because we wanted both genders of viera and then hrothgar. Or did I entirely hallucinate this?

ANYWAY! Yes! We want more customization options!! Body types, body part sliders, MUCH more face defaults, black hairstyles, curly hairstyles, full hairstyles, more age options/sliders, increase the color range options for all the things, more accessories, bunny tail toggle for viera! Etc, etc.

All a lot of good suggestions adde so far! Here's my personal list:

- More facial hair options and ideally separate them from the "facial features" tab like hairstyles. Most of the male characters only have access to some sideburns and maybe a goatee at best and just some scruffy 5 o'clock shadow at worst. Some don't even get any at all.
- Textured hairstyles. I'm not someone who personally uses black hairstyles, but it's super important to a lot of people I know and more diversity in hairstyles is never a bad thing. Just... don't pull a hairstyle contest and flatten the crap out of it.
- Body types, or scale sliders for more body parts/limbs. If new body types entirely aren't feasible, then at least give us the option to thicken or lengthen our existing limbs and body parts. Let me play a dad-bod Miqo'te.
- Options for body tattoos / paint. Give me the option to put an Archon tattoo on my neck!
- Au Ra Scale Colors/Patterns! Going hand in hand with the previous point, give Au Ra the option to change the way their scales look on their bodies! Additionally, more color options for Au Ra scales, and possibly even some "overlay" patterns, like sparkling or iridescent scales!

I wholeheartedly support this initiative, and like others have said before - if we're not getting any new races, then it's high time that the existing character creator got an overhaul.

I've wanted to have muscle slider added to female Miqo'te since I started playing, and I'm baffled as to why it's a race-specific thing in the first place since it seems like it just affects the normal map. Either way, it just feels wrong not having muscle tone as a Monk...

I'd kill to have extra body type options, I really would. My big ol' Roegadyn ought to have the build of a rugby player or strongman, i.e., someone who eats well and has a lot of functional muscle under some equally functional padding, rather than an underwear model with washboard abs.

In fact I'd like it a lot if abs were optional for everybody.

Muscle slider for miqo'te please! I also wish my character could be a little taller.

I definitely also want to support the suggestions of separating features like au-ra horns and hrothgar hair/whiskers/the fore-head horn from face types!

I would love to see more muscles available for a slider instead of “Doll” or “Slighly fit doll”. Also to get rid of the MCH Aetherpack- that thing massively breaks my immersive with how chunky it is.

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Originally Posted by AstreMcClain

I would love to see more muscles available for a slider instead of “Doll” or “Slighly fit doll”. Also to get rid of the MCH Aetherpack- that thing massively breaks my immersive with how chunky it is.

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kind of just spitballing ideas-- what about multiple "glamours" for the aetherpack, like how paladins have shields? preferably no like ilvl stuff to it, just purely for glam haha :,) i think i would really enjoy this, too.

also 110% seconding what's been said about different body types + ethnic features on pcs!!! please add more options there especially

I agree with so many things on everyone’s list here, so I’ll try to add to it rather than repeat…

- add 2 new clans to every race, to add some much needed variety, BUT along with that, let all options be shared within their races. No reason you can’t have a Midlander face and a Highlander body if you want to!
- universal height slider, ie: height not limited to a predetermined range based on character race. Maybe you want a shorter Elezen or a taller Au Ra…
- tails and ears (maybe include Au Ra horns with this) on their own separate tabs. Want to be a half-elf like Hilda? Add elf ears to your Hyurs! Want to be part cat? Add the ears/tails to whatever! Want to be a Lopporit? Add Viera ears to your Lalafell! This should totally be a doable thing, because it’s the main body that determines how gear fits, and tails clip through everything anyways.
- at least 3 options for face paint can be used at a time… that way females can have eyeshadow, blush and a design, or male highlanders can have their eyebrows and still use other options (although seriously can we get them an eyebrow tab already?).
- all the sliders for faces! Maybe an option to use the presets, but have sliders for fine tuning size/proportions. Especially for eyes, noses and lips… face sliders wouldn’t require as many gear adjustments like other sliders would, much as I’d like to see a slider for pretty much everything.

This is such a great thread already! I personally would love to see more sliders and options for body diversity. Being able to change your pronouns or having them separate from character model would make me very happy, as well. More face paint and the ability to apply more than one, more hairstyles of varying lengths and hair textures, more selections added to the pool of facial features are all things I'd love. There is so much more that I could list but it will have to suffice for me to say that I agree with pretty much everything else listed by the people before me. There are things I never even would have thought of!

(Personally my "pipe dream" request is optional tails for Viera. I just think some fluffly little tails would be so nice, you know?)

Being able to assign hair to glamour plates would be really cool, too!

I love this game a lot and I love it's visual style. I hope someday soon they can improve upon their CC and more people can feel seen and represented by what they can create in game.

i would really like to see a toggle for dark colored eyebrows! making a character with light hair and light skin makes their expressions more difficult to see, and this would help a lot with that...

im also on team "flat chested female characters" but that has already been spoken of a lot. to add to that, i would like to be able to toggle how the npcs and ingame dialog refers to my character. but that might be too much to ask.

• Chubby slider for ALL RACES and none of this tiny pudge nonsense. I mean actual plus size for both men and women. Not everyone is skinny or a body builder. Plus sized people exist and I'm tired of being overlooked in every game.
• Breast Slider. Breasts in this game are barely there save for like...highlanders. Girls have much bigger breasts than just C cups, SE. I'd know from experience with my own body and I'm tired of being left out.
• Give more mature features to Lalafell. Not everyone wants to play a doll and I'm tired of dingdongs calling them children because of it.
• More ear and tail options for Miqos, Viera and Hrothgar
• Give tails to Viera
• Paws options for Viera, Miqote, and Hrothgar
• Draconic options for Au Ra
• Fangs for Sunseekers
• Freckle options that aren't connected to face paint/make-up and more than just the face.
• Better color options for hair/make-up/paint/scales
• Whiskers available to ALL Hrothgar and Miqote faces

>Masc Midlanders have 7 faces(Fem Midlanders still have 6) but the other races get only 4. There are multiple NPCs in-game that do have custom faces but why lock them to just NPCs and not release them into Character customization, the Scions have default faces from CC so you can possibly make your character look like their twin. People already make goof character alts to run around the over world and dungeons as Urianger.
>The Lip color option needs a rework, why can't we have even darker and more saturated options to pick from? I play masc Aura and they still have very translucent options even if you go for the darkest lip color and intensity compared to other races. Either give us a slider or more choices.
>Having more diverse body types would be nice. I could see it working like a slider similar to height, ear, tail or already made presets. Guild Wars 2 is another MMO I enjoy playing and they have up to 4 different body types(called physiques) with different body textures. In a world were pigs eat nightmares through their noses, bears fly, and you kill gods for a hobby, why can't we be bigger if we want to.
>More slots for face paints, I have seen so many people complain that they can't have cute freckles on their characters and eye-shadow at the same time.

Players like character customization for 2 reasons, they wanna look at a pretty character and/or they wanna see themselves in the character they're playing. Players that look for customization in a game won't keep playing a game if you limit that experience and then move one to another game that has what they are looking for. In future patches I would love to see the customization experience expanded upon and improved, instead of rearranging the polygons on a specific face or nose shape, add it to the base game.

Sorry for the long-winded rant ^^;

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Originally Posted by Dagny

I think even in terms of technical debt, it still doesn't hurt to ask. Veira are able to have customization options with their ears, I don't view horns as being that different. If it is impossible, so be it, but it's been awhile since this has been discussed iirc.

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Sadly, au ra tails are the race's equivalent to viera ears.

Definitely would want a secondary face paint option to use. I miss using an eyeshadow option, but I've been prioritizing the usage of another face paint since the start of DT.
I would also love an option to adjust hair highlight intensity. Some hairstyles are really good, but I cannot stand how intense highlights can be at times and end up ignoring those styles.

This would be my changes if I were to be in charge of a customization overhaul. I'm not a dev so idk how hard this would be to implement but so fat I think these idea's would be fire
Character creator:

• More body sliders:
-Height
-Muscle
-Arms/Hands
-Waist
-Butt/Hips
-Boob
-Leg/Feet

• More options:
Seperate things from faces like:
-Horns
-Clan marks
-Ears
-Hairs

• Remove ‘face’ option and let us select every option from all faces.

• Unlock all face tattoo’s and other racial options (like mole’s, scars) and let you have 5 options on max if they don’t want to let people have all the options all at once.

• New options: Like more beards

• Body tattoos/scars/freckles or Clan marks for Miqote

• Multiple face markings. So people can do something like Blush and Freckles at the same time.

• Race specific:
-More shades for Au’ra scales. Rean: Bone white to complete white. Xeala: Blue to Black.
-Make hrothgar male hunch a toggle
-Sepperate hair highlights from fur pattern color
-More ear options or a slider for miqote and hrothgar

A lot of good suggestions already mentioned in this thread.
- Overall, more options to choose from (Face types, eyebrows, mouths, ears, tails) for each race.
- Adding sliders for specific adjustments, feature rotation, and colors.
- Fang length options for Moon Miqo'te, including even longer fangs. :)
- Makeup as its own separate category with more than 1 option to choose from. Every race should have the ability to toggle eyeliner, mascara, lip glossiness, and then still be able to add a face paint option or two, or three.
- For those of us suffering from unfortunate eyebrows, it could also help a little bit to be able to adjust eyebrow thickness, and also to pick eyebrow color separately from hair color. If the devs don't want people running around with pink hair and green eyebrows, they could at least add an option to choose from "light, medium, or dark" eyebrow shades.
- And lastly, the ability to choose a "mood" that their WoL has, reflecting in their neutral/idle facial expression. Cheerful, Stoic, Angry, Nervous, Mischievous, etc.

Add your hair choice to glam plates, there are a lot of hair options I don't touch because they clip most of my glams so it'd be nice to have an easy way to be selective about which glams use what. Atm I'm just using a short hair option and pretending like all the hair options in this game don't exist >.>

Flat chest options for fem models, so much, omg! For that matter, non-flat chest options for masc models. Pronoun selection. Fangs for all! I'd love being able to have horns + wings always, and for horns to not be a hat slot so hats can still be worn with them. Multiple makeup options would be amazing. Piercings + tattoos! Eye glow for all would be super cool too! I really love your suggestions, OP.

Not quite character customization, but relatedly: removing gendered clothing and making it just two different clothing models that can be toggled. And I'd love to remove the race restrictions too, some of the shirts/starter gear is so amazing and it's sad if your character can't wear it.

One I'd like to see is having rounded ears on Elezen. Or pointed ears on Hyurs, like Hilda. I tried to get my ears as rounded as possible on my main and it's just kind of awkward...

Whenever people ask for anything related to customization, all I can think about is how there's a thread that's been getting bumped for over 2 years desperately asking for more glamour plates

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Originally Posted by Bunyon

Whenever people ask for anything related to customization, all I can think about is how there's a thread that's been getting bumped for over 2 years desperately asking for more glamour plates

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Yeah as someone who got into this game way later down the line, the forums do feel like a void for suggestions.

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Originally Posted by Khutulun

Yeah as someone who got into this game way later down the line, the forums do feel like a void for suggestions.

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There was once a point where Yoshida and others would post here(both the JP section and the other languages through translators), but once they got successful they stopped caring.

Honesly, giving more body options for au ras would be so nice
Like c'mon
Why auri faces and horns locked together?
Why there's no scale color variety outside of dark blue and white?
No scale pattern variety either?

There's so much lost potential to add flavor to already existing races if devs just think a bit

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Originally Posted by thepurpletigress

I think that if Square Enix is no longer looking at adding more races to the game, that making improvements to the races that we already have is a big next step that they need to take.

We all remember being told that overhauling the graphics because of spaghetti code was impossible, and yet they've still been trying to make it work. Once the wrinkles are smoothed out with the graphics, I can theoretically see them overhauling the CC as the next thing to update.

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For 8.0 I think this is a trade off many of the players would happily accept.

I don’t really have high expectations from SE, but they could at least give us an option to pick a body type,
maybe a few preset choices, like default, slim, muscular, and androgynous.
Why can’t my Elezen be a bit more muscular, or some Roegadyn a bit less 'fat'?
This would also improve how male Hyurs’ body shapes look. I think that’s the bare minimum they could handle.

With mare down i would love to see them rectify their mistake of not giving viera tails. I almost never see fanart of viera wols where they clearly do not have a tail. Just make it an option for the people who dont want it.

Uncoupling au ra horns from faces would be a huge improvement and weve been asking for this for years.

Im expecting an expansion to hair color options bc of solution 9 hair colors. Could make a fun cutscene about giving the barber an expanded set of tools for more hair color and "face paint" options (in quotes because i really want scar options. No way our level 100 wols have no scars on their bodies after everything... But really i want body scars more then face scars)

Body type options would also be super nice. I cannot pretend i expect them to be capable of giving us sliders in the right places, but at least giving builds such as "sturdy" (heavy), "athletic" (somewhere in the middle), and "lean" (the skinny bitches). If theyre afraid of offending people with terminology they can say body types a b and c but it should not be hard to find words that work.

Gloves that are usable by all classes that make it so you can make long-sleeved robes, shirts, etc. into short sleeved ones. The Bozja scouting gloves are a good example of what I mean by this, although they're obviously locked to scouting classes.

Finally cracked and made a forum account just for this.

Here's my big wishlist regardless of wait time or feasibility because I think they would be cool:

• Au Ra horn swapping. Not just between faces, but genders as well.
• Dyeable eyelashes for everyone. We have the the toggle option on M Viera, I'd like to see it on different races and different faces. It's a nice touch that adds a lot of flavor and I think it'd be nice for the faces that don't really have a lot of eyelash going on to get something more striking.
• Age slider, or at least more old faces. It's annoying that only males get to be old, let the ladies have some wrinkles too.
• Better eyebrows. I am on my hands and knees, BEGGING for eyebrows on Male Highlander. And while we're at it, more thick eyebrow options for everyone would also be nice. I don't mean the toggle where the eyebrows get penciled in a little more, I mean big strong eyebrows. Fem Seeker eyebrows. I hate the pencil thin eraser shaving eyebrows some faces get stuck with.
• Viera tail (toggleable). I just think it would be cute. No other reason.
• More minor face variation. More noses, lips, eye shapes for all faces. It might help fix the "makeup vs no makeup" problem going on with Fem Elezen. And it wouldn't require making all new faces for every race.
• More Face Paint Slots. Some people want blush and freckles, or eyeshadow and cute little whiskers, or to just cover themselves in paint and complete their clown look.
• Scars and tattoos. This game needs more scars. We are playing the Warrior of Light, and we have seen things. We've covered wars, y'know. Tattoos that aren't attached to random (sometimes class-locked) clothing and instead to our actual characters would also be nice.
• More unique hair options. Please, please, please add more curly and loc hairstyles. Braids, fluffier hair, dyable hair accessories if they're going to be a permanent fixture of the hair, toggleable bits/alternative styles for Au Ra and Miqo'te to get rid of the weird horns and black ears that some of their default hairs have. Just changing the default hair options alone could add a ton.
• Better body type options. This is the most obvious. The chest slider on feminine body types is not very good (I don't even know why it exists on Lala other than as a joke). Flat chest and bigger chest option would be nice for a little more diversity. Muscle sliders for everyone, a slider to be a bit pudgier. Also a butt slider because almost every race is laughably flat and it's incredibly noticeable in the myriad of swimsuits that keep getting added to this game.
• More color palettes/color options. I can't tell if the NPCs from Solution 9 are meant to hint that this is a thing in the works, or just there to taunt us with hair colors we can't have. Either way, I want it.

I'd like to add that they also need to make the face options consistent.

For example. Miqo'te face 1, the one I use, the tattoos to the sides of the eyes are optional, however the same tattoos are permanent on face 4. Why is that?

Overall I have the feeling that the customization options may be hindered behind the "sphagetti" code (or w/e excuse there is), because it seems like they (except for hair styles and face paints) were built with limited 'slots' not thinking about new future additions.

How do I know this? I don't, but the fact that just to add the so-requested midlander stubble they had to literally copy paste one of the midlander faces, and add the stubble as a permanent texture for it, speaks a lot.

I'm most likely gonna be cooked for saying this, but I'm against the whole flat chest thing for females mostly due to a lot of bad actors using that to create "teen" WoLs.

While I am for the androgynous look, don't get me wrong, there's just too many players that infamous Google Doc list that mod their characters into "teens." At least then, I wouldn't know if there was one next to me so I wouldn't care, so long they don't get weird on me.

With the advent of what payment processors are doing, probably not a good idea to ask.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

They need to be limited because the server would having a harder time handling many more options, however I do approve of way more options in character making for all races and more, likewise more clothing options and ways to alter the looks within the game, other than plastering two colours onto some of the sets.

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so invest, that excuse falls flat with how cheap hardware v performance metrics are these days.

i just want black eartips for miqos to be an option, not connected to hairstyle

More faces !!!
More afro/Poc oriented hair and features.

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Originally Posted by VanillaWafer

While I am for the androgynous look, don't get me wrong, there's just too many players that infamous Google Doc list that mod their characters into "teens." At least then, I wouldn't know if there was one next to me so I wouldn't care, so long they don't get weird on me.

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I'm confused by this, not trying to cook you just genuinely trying to understand. If you saw a flat chested fem character next to you, you would assume it's a "teen", rather than just an androgynous character? Because there wouldn't be any other way to know that sort of thing without interacting with the player, and by that point you can just block them if you find them to be a bad actor. Just seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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Originally Posted by BrokeAndTired

I'm confused by this, not trying to cook you just genuinely trying to understand. If you saw a flat chested fem character next to you, you would assume it's a "teen", rather than just an androgynous character? Because there wouldn't be any other way to know that sort of thing without interacting with the player, and by that point you can just block them if you find them to be a bad actor. Just seems like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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Package this with the height slider to minimum with a young face and et voilà, you got yourself a young looking WoL.

You can talk me to death about different body shapes, I get it and I'd happily agree with you, but like I said, I have seen too many bad actors in this game to want to try this. Hell, I'd want a flat chest for myself, but at the cost of seeing "teens" running around? Pass. There's just too many and not enough slots in my blacklist.

However you'd be right, I could always report the bad actor if they're found out and they'd be the GM's problem. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it's not a good time, as I mentioned before.

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Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana

More faces !!!
More afro/Poc oriented hair and features.

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They could get away with extra faces if the standalone options (eyes, brows, nose, chin) could have a bigger impact.