Request: Split the genderlocked animations of the /visage emote into two emotes

when you reply to someone but it doesnt work ugh

But also i don't usually mind guys having a goofy af pose, but like.... not everyone wants that, sometimes we want cute poses T-T

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Originally Posted by Ayden-Erebus

when you reply to someone but it doesnt work ugh

But also i don't usually mind guys having a goofy af pose, but like.... not everyone wants that, sometimes we want cute poses T-T

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I do mind the gender lock emote but what I would like is a emote that would somewhat work like change pose but for emote instead like give us more then one option

I was so excited for the emote and when I finally got it I was sad since it was so different on my male Viera v.v I hope they add both versions available to use by any gender in the future.

Very much supportive of this. The ranger poses have the A, B, C designations so there's already precedent for it.

+1 from me! Echoing the sentiment that there's precedent for it with /cpose and the ranger A/B/C poses. There's absolutely zero reason why they should be genderlocking anything at this point.

First World Problems.... >.>

Coming to this thread because I was really looking forward to the Twirl emote (the promo image made it look nice, and as someone who used to swing dance it looked up my alley when we didn't have a name for it)...only to find out that it looks really lackluster as a guy.

Guys: here

Girls: here

I can understand the devs want to stick to "cool" for male versions of emotes, but like...this is so disappointing for me. I was already a bit sad that the selfie emote didn't have the same animation, but had moved on mostly. But this? When the promo image for this emote first got shown in a live letter, it was instantly the thing I was looking forward to most this patch. And now, I'm happy to leave it be until I either grind out the currency for it or it's selling for cheap on MB.

I get why people might go "arguing for this is dumb" but like...would you really say no to more emotes you can use? Would you say no to having more glam options? Having both versions of emotes that are different between genders and having both sets of armor that are different between genders is just a good thing, in the end.

Please give us both options of emotes, or just don't make them different between guys or girls to begin with. There's precedent for having multiple versions of emotes. And please give us both versions of armor sets if you have to make them different for guys and girls.

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Originally Posted by eternalmagic

Coming to this thread because I was really looking forward to the Twirl emote (the promo image made it look nice, and as someone who used to swing dance it looked up my alley when we didn't have a name for it)...only to find out that it looks really lackluster as a guy.

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The way male characters pause right before the twirl to put their hand on their hip is kind of goofy. Looks like they're doing two separate emotes with a generic idle pose in between. Other than that, the male version of this emote would be cute for female characters with more reserved personalities. I'm frustrated by how much of a character's perceived personality is determined by unchangeable gender-locked animations.

Came here to second this!
Unlike most, I prefer the male /visage emote for my character, but when I saw the /twirl for fem vs male characters I was so so disappointed. I do get trying to keep male emotes looking cool, but it's a TWIRL emote, trying to make it cool defeats the whole purpose. Almost every time I see a new emote that I like, it turns out the male version is entirely different, and IMO usually looks like a half-hearted afterthought. As others have said, it just looks like random emotes before a twirl (literally /welcome and a random /cpose before a spin and /think). I'd imagine fem character players would be similarly frustrated, seeing as they have no choice but to be very feminine with every emote. It would be easily solved by simply giving two separate versions of emotes!! (Also what is it with lala having their own unique animation for /twirl?)

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Originally Posted by ConantSivrha

Other than that, the male version of this emote would be cute for female characters with more reserved personalities. I'm frustrated by how much of a character's perceived personality is determined by unchangeable gender-locked animations.

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I'm interested in the male version of /twirl for this reason so adding my support for this (on various emotes)

I love my male character, but he's not really supposed to be masculine and cool, so I've always been frustrated with having his animations be too masculine for him. Having a different set of emote animations would be awesome. I was really disappointed seeing that /twirl had different animations too; what's the point? Twirling is inherently very whimsical and playful, so why does the male animation have to tone it down? They don't tone down /hum, so why do they have to tone down /twirl?

Commenting to show my support for this! I always hated the gendered emotes - my character is a tomboy Miqo'te, so I always wanted access to some of the male characters emotes. please, just remove the genderlock from all emotes in the game and let us switch/cycle through them with the change pose emote!

I don't really have that much complaints with the poses given to me coz of my character's sex but I think gpose-wise me and a lot of folks could benefit from having two variations of the same emote!!!

I'm all for this! I keep thinking of them as /twirlcute and /twirlcool, but even an A/B or change pose option would work. Sometimes boys are cute and sometimes girls are cool! (not to mention all the variety of gender expressions across people and cultures)

seconding this - everyone else has really said it all already but it's always a bummer! if we're gonna get two different versions, i'd much prefer if we could just choose which one we'd like to use, especially when there's a considerable difference between them. :(
edit : sort of adjacent to this - gear looking wildly different between genders also always sucks. the ophiotauros/neo-ishgardian sets and the new tycoon tights are some examples of "oh that's fully a different outfit" ones, but this goes for everytime the female version of the gear has shorts or bare legs and the male version has pants/the female version of the gear has random openings the male version didn't, too. :(

Adding support to this, because gendering gear in this game is pretty ridiculous as it is and there's even less reason to gender lock emotes and poses. I'm glad they've begun making older gear gender neutral but there's still a good bit of work that needs to be done especially if they're still doing this.

I've always thought the race and gender locked variations on various base emotes has been a bit silly. You can make the argument culturally that there's some logic to having them race locked but... I play a female Xaela and a lot of these emotes feel so excessively cutesy for them considering what their lore can be like.

The most obnoxious victim of this to me though is the /spectacles emote. Since I prefer my character wearing glasses I was a bit excited and amused finding out about this emote given the animation for when Briardien adjusts his glasses in cutscenes. I was disappointed finding out after unlocking it that the animation is bizarrely race and gender specific and as a female Xaela I got stuck with an animation that feels a bit comical in how feminine and cutesy it is for adjusting a pair of glasses, especially compared to what I assumed I was going to get.

but we'll I think there is laws in a couple countries could also be why the emote and gears are like that tho I don't mind those even am in favor for those but eh just have to see the bigger picture overall

Throwing in my support. I appreciate that they're doing more work to bring two variants of the emotes, but that should mean we get double the emotes, not one genderlocked one.

I play a female Roegadyn, and the cutesy feminimity doesn't fit both her physical looks and the style conveyed by the race-specific emotes. Femroes just look and move more masculine and a bit of elegant, rather than cutesy. There are so many ways to convey feminimity, but it feels like the game enforces cutesy as the only acceptable way. I can't help but feel like outfits and emotes are designed with only the smaller races like Lala's and Miqo's in mind

Throwing my support in. I have hated how the animation gender differences feel since I got the Sundrop Dance way back in Heavensward. Also the weapon idle stances just don't make sense being genderlocked either. Just give us Cpose 1 and Cpose 2.

I support this

just make a menu which allows the players to swap out the animations of chosen emotes / skills / stances / movements.

this would be a great possibility for a new kind of rewards too.
and an extra layer people could express themselves.

Anything to free us male characters from arm crossing/thumbs-up hell

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Originally Posted by magitekwitch

The new /visage emote that has released now in 7.21 has different animations for male and female characters.
It's not only a slight difference like in the /photograph emote released a while ago. They're completely different poses!

• Male characters crouch doing a thumbs up, and then do a peace sign smiling with their mouth open while holding their phone up.

• Female characters adjust their hair, do a peace sign with a wink, and then wave while grinning. Females only stand up and don't crouch like the males.

Let us have both poses, please! I request that the male and female animations on the /visage emote are split into two separate emotes, like /visage Pose A and Pose B for example, and make them both available regardless of gender.

I don't understand why the devs made two different animations and then locked them by gender! They remove genderlock for gear sets on every patch (which I appreciate!), but at the same time they keep releasing gendered emotes!? It doesn't make sense!

Just stop locking emotes by gender, please!!

(This also applies to other existing gendered emotes.)

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I'm still mad over Bees Knees not gonna lie. Why do I look like I'm stomping around?