FF14 players are content with the slop because they barely play other games

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Originally Posted by AllenThyl

There you go, straight from the clown's mouth:



Because nothing says "mentally stable genius" like whining for years on a forum about a game they don't even play :D

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Congrats on finding out!

Weird take. I'm mostly content (a few complaints aside) because I play other games / have other hobbies and am not completely codependent with FFXIV.

Um chile anyway so...

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Originally Posted by brinn12

M6S is supposedly the revolutionary fight FFXIV needed... With fixed patterns for everything, including adds. The only part diverging from DDR is the cat jumps.

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They done trash fights before, coil turn 4 and Alexander 2, but this is basically a trash fight in the middle of a boss which turned out to be the hardest part of the fight.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

They done trash fights before, coil turn 4 and Alexander 2, but this is basically a trash fight in the middle of a boss which turned out to be the hardest part of the fight.

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I feel like the only people who think this is peak content are people who haven't done Criterion or started playing in EW or something.

I can't speak for everyone but the reason I don't mind the "content slop" is specifically BECAUSE I have other games to play. I was hella addicted to FFXI for a number of years where I barely played any other games so I know how it is. 14 for me, is a much more casual and easy game that works just fine if you only play when major patches release.

That being said, I would totally play more often if they released content quicker.

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Originally Posted by RyoXander

I can't speak for everyone but the reason I don't mind the "content slop" is specifically BECAUSE I have other games to play. I was hella addicted to FFXI for a number of years where I barely played any other games so I know how it is. 14 for me, is a much more casual and easy game that works just fine if you only play when major patches release.

That being said, I would totally play more often if they released content quicker.

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It's actually kind of ironic.

One of the community's primary grievances is that we want more reasons to log in for dedicated players.
Of all MMOs I'd say FF14 players are the most comfortable playing other games because you can jump in and out whenever you feel like. Gearing is super easy, and the content that is added never goes anywhere. (Except old Diadem but I think revamps don't count)

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Originally Posted by Nadda

It's actually kind of ironic.

One of the community's primary grievances is that we want more reasons to log in for dedicated players.
Of all MMOs I'd say FF14 players are the most comfortable playing other games because you can jump in and out whenever you feel like. Gearing is super easy, and the content that is added never goes anywhere. (Except old Diadem but I think revamps don't count)

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Wanting worth for your sub payment isn't an unreasonable ask with the wait times for new content. If they made demolition timers go away permanently, watch how the sub numbers would drop. But they know this, so they dont do it. Dropping the demo timer to 4-6 months would be enough

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Wanting worth for your sub payment isn't an unreasonable ask with the wait times for new content. If they made demolition timers go away permanently, watch how the sub numbers would drop. But they know this, so they dont do it. Dropping the demo timer to 4-6 months would be enough

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This is fair too. While I just said above the other games make me overall fine with XIV, there is a month or even two each patch where I feel like the sub money isn't all that worth it but just keep it for my house.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Wanting worth for your sub payment isn't an unreasonable ask with the wait times for new content. If they made demolition timers go away permanently, watch how the sub numbers would drop. But they know this, so they dont do it. Dropping the demo timer to 4-6 months would be enough

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housing demolition has been paused since the beginning of october of last year.

people locked into housing isn't affecting subs.

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Originally Posted by Nadda

It's actually kind of ironic.

One of the community's primary grievances is that we want more reasons to log in for dedicated players.
Of all MMOs I'd say FF14 players are the most comfortable playing other games because you can jump in and out whenever you feel like. Gearing is super easy, and the content that is added never goes anywhere. (Except old Diadem but I think revamps don't count)

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100% the devs intentions. FF14 isn't competing against other MMO's, it's competing against EVERY live-service game. From Genshin Impact and Zenless Zone Zero, to Monster Hunter Wilds and Helldivers II, to Apex Legends and Marvel Rivals. The way in which people game has definitely changed as well, much more flitting from one game to the next as opposed to undying, eternal devotion to a single game. There is such a thing as too much content, and I'd argue FF14 just about gets the cadence and balance right, aside from the X.1 patches.

Don't hit the door on your way out

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Originally Posted by Nadda

and the content that is added never goes anywhere.

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This is just disingenuous when you literally cannot play old jobs even if you wanted to, along with the gutting of half of the old dungeons to make them easier for new players and Trust.

There's a reason UWU is a meme today while it was seen as prestigious in 4.3, and no, it's not because of gear or knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Wanting worth for your sub payment isn't an unreasonable ask with the wait times for new content. If they made demolition timers go away permanently, watch how the sub numbers would drop. But they know this, so they dont do it. Dropping the demo timer to 4-6 months would be enough

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If you're paying to keep your virtual house, then logically, you are getting the worth of your sub payment. Because if you weren't, you would stop paying.

Meanwhile, it's because I play other games that I'm mostly content with the way FFXIV is. I'm not without complaints, of course, but all in all I'm not disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

Wanting worth for your sub payment isn't an unreasonable ask with the wait times for new content. If they made demolition timers go away permanently, watch how the sub numbers would drop. But they know this, so they dont do it. Dropping the demo timer to 4-6 months would be enough

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Housing Demolition is off right now. It's been off since like... October? Sometime last year. And it seems to shut off globally, so like... It's almost never on.

You could have easily taken a break after you finished 7.1, unsubbed, and came back for 7.2 and still have your house.

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Originally Posted by Soldier76

There's a reason UWU is a meme today while it was seen as prestigious in 4.3, and no, it's not because of gear or knowledge.

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Ultimates in general lost their prestige, not because of anything to do with the game mechanics, but because people quickly ended up buying clears.

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Originally Posted by DreadCrow

Ultimates in general lost their prestige, not because of anything to do with the game mechanics, but because people quickly ended up buying clears.

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That and people can't stop cheating.