Moogle Treasure Trove Feedback (more of a complaint)

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Originally Posted by Katz_McKatz

Why do the Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog not have more variety?

All of the Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog Are level 61 (Ultimog) and 70, 80, or 90 for the others ones even for characters still in ARR or HW.

Could we have some choices? Even the alternative choice for the weekly Fates requires you have the Endwalker Island.

Why is it so restricted? Can't their be choices for lower levels?

I know you can slog it out with the standard objectives, however, I don't see the point in being so narrow in the other methods.

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You cant blame them too much they dont really know how to design repeatable content.

They just started doing this a bit ago so I think they still need to adjust some things about the requirements. I know they want Ultimog to be just one certain thing, but it really probably should keep some sort of level check in mind. I haven't tried on a lower character yet so I don't know if they fixed that issue with Minimog and the weekly yet.

Also they do mention this but it was a bit of an odd thing to have Ultimog depend on fixed floors and thus having a fixed party. They probably should have made it doing 1 to 30 and having to start at 1 for the same effect but allowing matching.

Ultimog means hitting floor 50, means no matches parties means more discord prearranged scheduled BS.
Honestly F this game.
No doubt they'll be wasting more resources on another formula copy paste, all the time strangling what communities we might have had to run this content with.
Great for the sort of people that like scheduling and discords...
The high end players.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Ultimog means hitting floor 50, means no matches parties means more discord prearranged scheduled BS.
Honestly F this game.
No doubt they'll be wasting more resources on another formula copy paste, all the time strangling what communities we might have had to run this content with.
Great for the sort of people that like scheduling and discords...
The high end players.

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PF exists, though. I mean, I never cleared HoH, and I found a friendly group. We did it in one hour, which was faster than I expected and I'm not good at games.

You do not need to use discord to get to floor 50... I don't think you guys understand that HoH is very easy up to floor 50, barring very few boss mechanics you even need to do. I might semi regularly do deep dungeons but you don't even need a party if you have high aetherpool. If no potions then go as a tank or healer. I did it alone as is my standard unless someone needs me.

Sure they could do level based stuff but some people are blowing this HoH ultimog out of proportion. It isn't difficult. The fixed party thing is a nonissue. Just make a PF if you need to.

Edit: Like seriously I could carry three other people myself to floor 50 with all of them doing jack squat other than following and dancing. The enemies don't truly start scaling faster until 51+ and even then you don't feel it until 61+.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Ultimog means hitting floor 50, means no matches parties means more discord prearranged scheduled BS.
Honestly F this game.
No doubt they'll be wasting more resources on another formula copy paste, all the time strangling what communities we might have had to run this content with.
Great for the sort of people that like scheduling and discords...
The high end players.

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HoH is high end now?
Seriously, just talk to people
you don't need to join a discord for it lol
Shout chat, party finder, etc
Everyone has the same ultimog challenge, it really shouldn't be that difficult to find like-minded people that want to clear it

The only downside I can see is that if you hadn't started HoH, it might seem daunting to get to the floor required for the challenge
because you won't have arm or armor aetherpool

other than the obvious glaring issue of newer players being unable to do it due to MSQ progression, which is another issue entirely

but the ultimog challenge is something that you have plenty of time to work toward
and honestly once you unlock floor 30 it's really easy to farm aetherpool

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Ultimog means hitting floor 50, means no matches parties means more discord prearranged scheduled BS.
Honestly F this game.
No doubt they'll be wasting more resources on another formula copy paste, all the time strangling what communities we might have had to run this content with.
Great for the sort of people that like scheduling and discords...
The high end players.

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Very much not high end content for that floor level, easier than any DT dungeon. Just no fixed match maker.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

Ultimog means hitting floor 50, means no matches parties means more discord prearranged scheduled BS.
Honestly F this game.
No doubt they'll be wasting more resources on another formula copy paste, all the time strangling what communities we might have had to run this content with.
Great for the sort of people that like scheduling and discords...
The high end players.

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I wouldn't really call it high-end... floors 1-70~ are very very accessible to players, the only problem is that it requires a fixed party, and isn't based around matched parties.. Which kinda defeats the purpose of the objective -- If the objective is to speed up queues in older content. -- and it is locked behind Floor 50 of PotD.. Which after floor 10 or 20 has some really nasty queue timers, so it can act as a barrier in even being able to unlock HoH in the first place. I mean they can PF it... But the incentive for everyone else just ain't that great.

People will just PF it.. Absolutely doesn't need Discord tbh

I can only speak for myself, and even on my main I have not made it to the 50. floor of PoD. I tried when it turned up as challenge in one of the last Moogle events. Got into a group, and somewhere above level 40 my team mates died after 30 seconds into the fight (don't remember any details, most likely a boss with some spicy mechanics).
Thought to myself "screw that", went in solo... and got obliterated even by trash. Did a bit of reasearch, obviously my weapon and armor level were way to low. So went into some lower level floors, only to find out that none of the upgrades there would upgrade my equip.
So to get to the higher floors I need equip which I only get on the highter floors? Yeah, screw that twice.
50 moogle tomes = 7*Praetorium = 70 minutes of gameplay + 140 minutes doing something useful while the game plays its pointless cutscenes. I'm pretty sure there is no way for a player like me to clear 50 levels in PoD and 50 levels in HoH within 70 minutes of gameplay (except being carried by someone with a PoD/HoH equip level over 9000)

Deep Dungeon is really not that hard (at least up to the level that mogtome is asking for..), and HoH 50 is much easier than PoTD 100... if you can't solo it, just throw up a PF or keep an eye out. I joined a random PF last night and pretty much carried half the party because I do a lot of DD and am very familiar with HoH in particular. Odds are you'll get at least one person like that and you can clear the 30 floors (21-50) in about an hour or so. But even if you don't, 4 people can handle it easily as long as you aren't playing recklessly.

There are plenty of resources for DD, it takes less than a minute of searching to find them. Just stop being scared of the game asking you to do any combat content that isn't part of a duty roulette LMAO