Is there a reason why WHM is the weakest healer in all fields?

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Idk what are they’re disagreeing to, to be fair.

As of today, Misery can be either neutral or a gain. For them to be a dps gain, the number of buffed Miseries has to outweight the loss Glares from casting Solace/Raptures outside raidbuff windows. Remember that Misery is the same as dumping 4 Glares IIIs in a single GCD. Should that Misery buffed, you’re essentially gaining 3 buffed Glare IIIs within the raidbuff windows. Otherwise, they’re a neutral.

As for MP economy, I think today’s WHM is about on par to SGEs, provided you remember to burn unneeded lilies for unneeded heal lol.

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it's actually ten potency higher now, so it's always a gain, even without buff window considerations

Uhh...? XD

https://i.gyazo.com/2783e9baa9182aff...d37f081576.png

glare 330 x4 = misery 1320

Pom needs to give 3 blood lilys...whm opener sucks w/o misery u feel like missing something.

remove the need of using lilys to gain blood , u only gain lily while on combat , the whole system has been a pain since its inception

The simplest jobs should be the weakest if you ask me

Define simplest, WHM has access to so little resources compared to the other healers it ends up being the hardest to clear fights on.

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Originally Posted by Zolvolt

The simplest jobs should be the weakest if you ask me

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All healers plays the same. There is no such thing as "simplest healer". Not even AST is that different from WHM nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Zolvolt

The simplest jobs should be the weakest if you ask me

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What are you even talking about? All the healers are clones of eachother you can literally arrange all their hot bars to mimic eachother.

hoping for some love for whm before savage , its not like ppl arent recruiting heals lol , this is the 1 expansion i think ppl that used to main healer are isntead rerolling but still , whm needs something.

Why is PoM still two minutes anyway?

Warrior is the mindless monkey job of this game. Zero thoughts, just press and even it's 3-charge offensive cooldown is 60 seconds.

It's like no matter what healers are not allowed to have fun. This seems spiteful at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

What are you even talking about? All the healers are clones of eachother you can literally arrange all their hot bars to mimic eachother.

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I agree that the same basic healing and dps tools are the same, though healers approach even the basic tools in different ways. but healer gameplay is centered around the job gauges and OGCD management. White mage is by far the simplest here. Even from learning a fight's perspective whm has one mitigation on 2m cd. far below everyone else, including it's counter-part Astrologian.

Saying that they're the same is a serious disservice. But you'd have to recognize that healer gameplay is designed around OGCD's and changes in mitigation which whitemage lacks compared to the other 3 healers. So anyone playing whitemage is going to think healers are worse off than they really are. But thats what happens when you pick the simplest healer.

I am glad the majority of the community feel that the healers are in a very bad spot. The worst since the game went into A realm reborn. I will remain hopeful that they will start swinging the pendulum back to healers from tanks and hopefully restore the job identity we had. White mage, Astro and scholar need to have their identity restored. I have no opinion on Sage as I am not interested in the job thematic.

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

Why is PoM still two minutes anyway?

Warrior is the mindless monkey job of this game. Zero thoughts, just press and even it's 3-charge offensive cooldown is 60 seconds.

It's like no matter what healers are not allowed to have fun. This seems spiteful at this stage.

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I agree. It sounds silly, but even the little choices seem hell bent on making healers as miserable to play as possible, like the E. Dyskrasia removal. It feels vindictive.

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

Why is PoM still two minutes anyway?

Warrior is the mindless monkey job of this game. Zero thoughts, just press and even it's 3-charge offensive cooldown is 60 seconds.

It's like no matter what healers are not allowed to have fun. This seems spiteful at this stage.

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Here's another question, why is it 15s instead of 20s? Chain strategem is 20s. Divination is 20s. Why wouldn't PoM be 20s? It's clearly meant to be their personal burst, shouldn't it at least match with the others?

There isn't any logic here though, it's literally just overlooked and forgotten, just like a lot of WHMs kit.
How Asylum is the weakest aoe regen on the longest CD is still beyond me.