Stop engaging with threads you don't like

another day in forums I guess
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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

why still be here if you hate the community/game so much.

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Because complaining on the Internet is fun :)

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Wait - so the Forum is now the true Endgame?!

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Convincing other people of your argument and getting legitimate discourse in response on this trash heap is harder than any content in the game currently. Combat here is more engaging than in-game.

OP, you're wasting your time.

I get it, there seems to be a bubbling contingent of discontent rumbling if you have a specific lean in the game. But you really gotta understand that you're already operating from a horrible position from the outset. Much like there is no honor in defending CBU3, as you said, there's no honor in being a tireless vanguard for a game that will probably never exist. You will get adjustments here and there, but it's not a losing battle, it's a lost one.

Ideologically, I agree with you. Almost all of my friends are those silent leavers, and my social circle in XIV is completely devastated directly as a result of changes to the game, but we all just found other stuff to play with each other in.

Realistically, you're ironically too hopeful. You are literally making yourself more miserable for no reason. Nothing you say, nothing you do will have any effective change when you look at it from the scope of industry-wide standards and the current trajectory of the game. Yes, you may consider the game to be as bland as plain bread, but there is no other option that will lead to immediate results. Even hypothetically, if changes were implemented, they would take years to bear fruit, and you really don't want to roll those dice when SE is the dealer. You may get a pity concession here and there, but the house always wins. Nostalgia and memories from the past expansions will not give you current happiness. So you have to entirely divest your investment for the product if you want to stay relatively sane.

I'm not engaging in this thread because I dislike it. I honestly think there is nothing wrong with being passionate about something you love. But you should take care of yourself, and not open yourself up like you are right now in threads like this.

It's okay to give up, there is zero shame in it. You can even stay subbed, as long as you understand that your perspective simply isn't worth anything.

Some people have misunderstood the point of the post. Perhaps you didn't read it or just didn't understand but I'm not saying we can't have different opinions, why would i come to a public place if I didn't want them I could easily find people who echoed me on reddit. What I am saying is that we have to many replies that are completely unapologetically non engaged with the thread. It's not about them being "meanies" you're not 11, when you're 20- or 30- something and you behave in the ways that some users here have pointed out I'd say its even more annoying than if it was an 11 year old. Because you as an adult should know better. You came here to engage and give your feedback and if you posted threads whatever and got the responses we've gotten from you I KNOW you wouldn't like it. I am trying to point out why it's so pointless to bump threads you don't want to see bumped. But if you still don't understand my point. Perhaps this quoted reply will aid

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

There are some threads I wouldn't have even seen if nobody had bumped them to mention how pointless they were. One I can vaguely recall, was bumped to the top of the front page ..

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

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I think the issue might be the title itself for this thread. It's not referencing people who try to derail topics. It's telling others not to engage with these threads at all, which amounts to just wanting an echo chamber instead of engaging in that very real constructive dialogue you subsequently mention. Perhaps edit the thread title so it sounds more like what you actually mean?

If anything these forums have too much of an echo chamber where if someone posts anything outside of what is deemed acceptable, they get dogpiled and taken out of context. Look at any discussion around balance, exploratory zones, relics, etc. There is exactly one acceptable opinion to have on these forums and that's that the game peaked in Stormblood and has been ruined by SE dumbing down the game. Any other opinion is not tolerated.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Some people have misunderstood the point of the post. Perhaps you didn't read it or just didn't understand but I'm not saying we can't have different opinions, why would i come to a public place if I didn't want them I could easily find people who echoed me on reddit. What I am saying is that we have to many replies that are completely unapologetically non engaged with the thread. It's not about them being "meanies" you're not 11, when you're 20- or 30- something and you behave in the ways that some users here have pointed out I'd say its even more annoying than if it was an 11 year old. Because you as an adult should know better. You came here to engage and give your feedback and if you posted threads whatever and got the responses we've gotten from you I KNOW you wouldn't like it. I am trying to point out why it's so pointless to bump threads you don't want to see bumped. But if you still don't understand my point. Perhaps this quoted reply will aid

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Very round about way of saying 'thanks stormpeaks for pumping my threads'.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Very round about way of saying 'thanks stormpeaks for pumping my threads'.

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tbf I find it hilarious that he thinks I care about bumping his thread, directly or indirectly, I really, really, like really, couldnt care less if its bumped or not lol.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Stop engaging with threads you don't like

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No, I won't.

Don't worry, I haven't in months. But even casually visiting once every few weeks I see a trend with OP.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

I think the issue might be the title itself for this thread. It's not referencing people who try to derail topics. It's telling others not to engage with these threads at all, which amounts to just wanting an echo chamber instead of engaging in that very real constructive dialogue you subsequently mention. Perhaps edit the thread title so it sounds more like what you actually mean?

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They can't change the title once the thread has been made. It's one of the dumbest things about these forums. The other is still seeing threads made by people you've black listed.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

They can't change the title once the thread has been made. It's one of the dumbest things about these forums.

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That's a good thing tbh stops ghost-editing and baiting tactics

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

WAAAHHH MY ROTATION IS TOO EASY WAAAAAHHH

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lil bro made a whole thread to cry, also this game isn't for you anymore

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

No. Really. You know who you are. Every single thread that goes up. Negetive or positive you try to silence the OPs or even personally attack them when they say what you don't like. [ and no were not talking about constructive disagreement. Were talking about the same people commenting the same thing on every single thread] "bye" "quit the game pls" "we dont want you here"

It isn't making you look smart. The class isn't laughing with you. You're bumping threads to be seen by more people that you hate. Thus feeding the op when if your right and they just wanted attention; starving them of it is so much better a tactic to make them go away.

It just feel like flinging for the sake of flinging and not actually believing in anything you say. Cbu3 and yoship aren't vulnerable maiden's. You don't have to defend there honour

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This is a public forum. People can respond to anything they like however they like as long as it is within the ToS. It is absurd you think it is ok to post a thread telling people how to interact with said forum.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

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Objection! Someone can actually win in turn-based combat. Nobody wins an argument on the internet, one side or the other just gets bored and walks away and everyone's time is lost.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

Edit to add: Have you ever thought some of us kept our subs for the purpose of being in the one place where our concerns might have some small chance of being addressed?

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How well has that worked out for you? Have your concerns been addressed to your satisfaction or have there been announcements about upcoming changes that will?

It's really easy to get yourself to believe sticking around will make a difference. I've been there, done that.

It doesn't when it comes to a game with hundreds of thousands of players. Your voice is but a drop of water in the ocean, not the tidal force that change the movement of the water. Until there is enough money flowing out, things won't change substantially.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

lil bro made a whole thread to cry, also this game isn't for you anymore

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Lol what a miserable attempt at patronising me. I never talked about my rotation once. I play reaper and find it's not as easy as other jobs I could be maning like mch. So no. I don't think my rotation is too easy. Ur pulling that out your backside. Also who are u to decide who the games for? Its not like we're gona just go away and quit because you can't have a mature argument

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Lol what a miserable attempt at patronising me. I never talked about my rotation once. I play reaper and find it's not as easy as other jobs I could be maning like mch. So no. I don't think my rotation is too easy. Ur pulling that out your backside. Also who are u to decide who the games for? Its not like we're gona just go away and quit because you can't have a mature argument

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Thank you for giving money to SE so the game can be better for the rest of us that still enjoy the game

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Also who are u to decide who the games for?

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You mean, the thing you are doing yourself, deciding who should or shouldn't reply to topics on a public forum....

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Originally Posted by SanibelIsland

You mean, the thing you are doing yourself, deciding who should or shouldn't reply to topics on a public forum....

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Read past the title. If u didn't read it before why should I regurgitate it here

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Thank you for giving money to SE so the game can be better for the rest of us that still enjoy the game

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I have no reason to unsub yet. There are thing in game for me aswell rn. But it goes as far as 1 boss mecanic in Criterion before thats over. Its not like I'm sitting here ladee da I'm quitting bye. After we beat statice and 6.6 that really is it for me till dawntrail. I never claimed I was quitting right now

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Read past the title. If u didn't read it before why should I regurgitate it here

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People read the title of your thread and saw that you were crying that people didn't reply to all your threads how you want them to reply and 100% agree with you and telling people that don't agree with you to stop posting in them.

oh look its all the people no one likes arguing over who's parents taught them less social skills...

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

oh look its all the people no one likes arguing over who's parents taught them less social skills...

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M8 better watch out or they lash out and report you to the authorities

I can't resist a good old thread dumpster fire.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

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You could always just stop posting. The forums would be better for it.

what people do on a thread is their prerogative, regardless of whether you like it or not.

As one might say, conversely, if you can't handle the burden of peoples' response to your threads, then you ought to consider whether you should be posting in the first place. It's really that simple if you want to pull the "Stop engaging" response out of the hat, and it is a comment that goes both ways.

Last week there was one that made me smile. Someone created a thread a second thread about an article, and most of the people that posted in the said thread were basically saying "that thread already exists". Litterally, the guys keeping the thread alive and in the "recent thread" list were the one complaining about it.

Nah. I'm unsatisfied with the current state of the game and wanna talk about it. Though I will try to keep my eventual last post amicable since my expectations for Dawntrail are in the gutter.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

I can't resist a good old thread dumpster fire.

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So...wouldn't that be the forums in their entirety at this point?

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

No. Really. You know who you are. Every single thread that goes up. Negetive or positive you try to silence the OPs or even personally attack them when they say what you don't like. [ and no were not talking about constructive disagreement. Were talking about the same people commenting the same thing on every single thread] "bye" "quit the game pls" "we dont want you here"

It isn't making you look smart. The class isn't laughing with you. You're bumping threads to be seen by more people that you hate. Thus feeding the op when if your right and they just wanted attention; starving them of it is so much better a tactic to make them go away.

It just feel like flinging for the sake of flinging and not actually believing in anything you say. Cbu3 and yoship aren't vulnerable maiden's. You don't have to defend there honour

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Sounds like you can't handle online criticism.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

Sounds like you can't handle online criticism.

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The irony of an avid critiquer not being able to handle criticism of their own

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

The irony of an avid critiquer not being able to handle criticism of their own

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Firing stupid replies like "just unsub" isn't criticism. Idk how much I gotta say that before ppl will listen. Perhaps it's a lost cause

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Originally Posted by Xaphire

You could always just stop posting. The forums would be better for it.

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Says the person who never posts anything here.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Firing stupid replies like "just unsub" isn't criticism. Idk how much I gotta say that before ppl will listen. Perhaps it's a lost cause

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Well at least we wouldn't get the daily doom post and how much you hate the game and community I think telling you to unsub or to learn to take criticism is valid advice. Maybe stop with the doom post if you don't like the type of engagement you get instead of saying that the way the game is is because of the community and that the only way the game will improve will be how you want it or that your ideas only will benefit everyone when possibly not everyone will like your ideas. People are going to be critical of your threads when every thread you start is calling out the community for sucking or blaming the community for you not enjoying the game in it's current state or how much you hate the game which if you hate it so much then the "just unsub and quit" is pretty valid advice.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Firing stupid replies like "just unsub" isn't criticism. Idk how much I gotta say that before ppl will listen. Perhaps it's a lost cause

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I mean, Im sure SE will listen to your critiques this time if you keep spending money on them.

Its the level of frustration you express thats concerning for how in the hell are you still giving this game your valuable time and attention. When literally everything you post sounds like an abuse victim trying to justify staying in the relationship rather than doing the correct thing and leave it. Thats whats sad to mr

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I mean, Im sure SE will listen to your critiques this time if you keep spending money on them.

Its the level of frustration you express thats concerning for how in the hell are you still giving this game your valuable time and attention. When literally everything you post sounds like an abuse victim trying to justify staying in the relationship rather than doing the correct thing and leave it. Thats whats sad to mr

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That's the vibe I get from there threads as well.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

That's the vibe I get from there threads as well.

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Heres the thing. I dont know if people know but its very easy to tell and differentiate between players who give criticism while still enjoy the game and those whom are just spiteful of it.

If somebody goes around constantly making click baity threads like this and garner attention to themselves and the negative aspects of the game. Thats somebody who clearly needs to unsub as what theyre doing is angrily shouting at a building. This was the case with some individuals in the forums such as Aveyond.

Its very obvious and clear that they seek major changes but dont want to commit to their own cause. And this is fine. Not everyone is going to accept the mediocrity that FFXIV provides since they dont take the game that seriously (like most of us here. Some people find parts of the game still enjoyable)

But the problem is that theyre doing this while still being part of the problem by spending money on SE whom are a business and they answer to player subs. It worked with WoW when people finally started voting with their money during Shadowlands and it sure as hell will work here if more people whom are just as disastified with the current game respond the same.