Why did Asmongold stop playing FF14 if FF14 is so good with a good community?

Is there any game that he has played consistently for his entire career on YouTube, or has he at one time or another quit all of them?

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

Is there any game that he has played consistently for his entire career on YouTube, or has he at one time or another quit all of them?

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He at least finished FFXVI, thats something.

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Originally Posted by Cidel

(Looks at both quote portraits) Did you quote your alt?

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I want to talk to my lawyer.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

The reason why your theory makes no sense, citizen, is because Twitch requires streamers to disclose when they're being endorsed by another company. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/bra...language=en_US

Also your theory suggests that Asmon was being paid by Blizzard to bash a game that was... made by Blizzard.




Spirits be with you.

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People always say this but there are ways around it and streamers don't disclose all the time. There's literally been studies on it.

And yes, Asmon's contracts allow him to criticize the games.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

There's literally been studies on it.

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You know he could play without streaming if him streaming was ruining the game. They can do that. They are not chained to their streams. He probably just didnt enjoy FF14 pacing and it had zero to do with the community.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

he stopped playing because no matter what else he was doing people bugged him to continue playing xiv

the community lives to harass streamers into playing the msq so they can relive vicariously since you will never experience the same emotions of going thru it the first time again and once the streamer has finished the msq they toss em in the trash and move onto the next streamer playing through the msq

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Shout out to that one streamer who realized this and stalled so hard that people got sick of him and dropped his stream and then he also got accused of sexual assault or something.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Shout out to that one streamer who realized this and stalled so hard that people got sick of him and dropped his stream and then he also got accused of sexual assault or something.

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Ah, the infamous Rich Campbell, citizen. No one has heard from him since.




Clear skies and safe journeys.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

Despite this being the "best community"?

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Do you think you contribute to the community being great?

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

It's just incredibly easy to exploit FF14 players :)

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Or do you think this account will see its way out like your last ones?

Don't let it make you crazy ok.

"Why did he quit?!!?!?!?!!?"

[Me a player that also had to do ARR with no skipping and reading all the dialogue for every uneventful boring fetch quest while just wanting to get to endgame to play with my friends, unable to do the content i like from MMORPGs, you know, the parts where you get to play with friends ]: "hmm i wonder"

at this point this is a single player game that gets support for limited multiplayer, its not a mmorpg anymore, its just another game to add to the list of Square enix phoning it in.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

Isn't it interesting how even Asmongold had to quit?

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He never said, that he had to quit.


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

I think we all know the real reason why Asmongold stopped playing FF14.

Isn't it interesting how even Asmongold had to quit? Despite this being the "best community"?

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Cause a MMO isn't fun if the streamer has a horde of, at best young if not underaged, fans and trolls following him into every corner of the game. And those weren't people from the community, it were his "followers" who didn't even played the game before him.

If i had hundreds of people running after me ingame all day long i would also stop playing the game.

So it is not like the game doesn't have a welcoming community, as seen with preach and all the other streamers which were welcomed very well. It is just simply that Asmongolds own fanbase is literally born out of the deepest cesspools the internet has to offer.

That aside, don't you have anything better to do Gaius/Titan? For example making more marketboard alts for your RMT ventures?

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

If i had hundreds of people running after me ingame all day long i would also stop playing the game.

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basically, it was a lot of "totally not toxic ffxiv players" mad that he was going to ruin their "perfect community" of fur babies and underage housing adventures..
so they stream sniped him, were chasing him with mounts and body blockers, going as far as to block his camera...

this community is just as bad as any other, in some cases a lot worse, i know you clubs dont card...

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

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There is a little bit of truth to what you say ofc, i met my fair share of toxic people in the community too. So yeah, XIV has also some very toxic and questionable people in it.

The problem with Asmongold tho is that he attracts exactly those people since that is also what his bubble of followers is made out of. You don't see that problem with any other streamer really which had all a great experience. Cause they don't attract the toxic knuckleheads of the internet.

Another point is that his success and his persona is build on attracting that kind of people, from his own bubble and ofc from others. So idk why people here wonder why he stopped. He actually played the game much longer than most people know, on his alt stream where he is just off persona. So the answer to the question of "why he stopped" is very simple, it's just not profitable. It's always really funny to see people wondering about why a streamer stopped with a certain thing with their on persona streams, the answer is in 99% of all cases money and views. You need to keep in mind that they are a business in the end not a "real" person. They have to make money with what they do.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

The problem with Asmongold tho is that he attracts exactly those people since that is also what his bubble of followers is made out of. You don't see that problem with any other streamer really which had all a great experience. Cause they don't attract the toxic knuckleheads of the internet.
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i dont really see any difference between his audience and say Preach's audience, besides Zack's audience is generally 2000%ish larger, but i waill say both have played many more games than just ffxiv, and generally speaking they dont run in to these problems quite the same, yeah its happened, but never with entire discords and reddit threads made to stalk him and plan to grief..

the community, these forums were plagued with what if senerio horror stories of how he would ruin the game before he ever logged in, they gaslighted the "inclusion" side of the community in to thinking he was the problem, that he would take away their precious safe space, when it was them that became the problem, so afraid he might gate keep, they became the gate keepers, and were a ok breaking their precious ToS if it meant they could get rid of him.

this isnt a good community, its just full of people afraid to speak because a sub group of the community has enough sway to mass flag any that dare have a voice they didn't give them.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Ah, the infamous Rich Campbell, citizen. No one has heard from him since.




Clear skies and safe journeys.

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Guy was part of asmons org too which was the sad part

I hope he never shows his mug online ever again

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Shout out to that one streamer who realized this and stalled so hard that people got sick of him and dropped his stream and then he also got accused of sexual assault or something.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Ah, the infamous Rich Campbell, citizen. No one has heard from him since.




Clear skies and safe journeys.

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Yeah, that's Rich Campbell alright. He was actually a decent streamer from what I remember up until the sexual assault accusation was made against him. He had everything going for him and he threw it all away, lol.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Guy was part of asmons org too which was the sad part

I hope he never shows his mug online ever again

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Yeah, OTK. He ain't ever coming back.

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Sorry, i had accident recently and injured my brain, as a result i don't quite remember or know who this is?
(kidding btw, i did hit my head really hard though on the wall waking up)

Cool story...NEXT

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

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^^This

& he is a streamer, so follows the wave. If Everquest was trendy, he will play that.

XIV is the most overrated game in gaming history. It is not as great as everyone claims, nor is it as bad as everyone claims. I would give it a 7/10. Gonna try and finish the MSQ........been saying that for some years now & still on HW......

For the OP:

Twitch is not the FFXIV community.

A better question: did Asmongold actually pay for a subscription or was he doing what pretty much every other twitch streamer did at the time: play the game via the Free Trial?

Another question: did Asmongold's Twitch runs in FFXIV result in actual subscriptions, or were they players who wanted to be with their idol via the Free Trial?

A third question: Did the OP actually sit through the FFXIV Twitch streams of Asmongold? Personally, I'd rather be playing the actual game rather than watching somebody I don't know from Adam play a game.

Asmongold... Asmongold... Asmongold...

Hmm... something about that name sounds familiar - where have I heard that before?

Hmm..

Oh, wait.

THAT guy.

Eww.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

For the OP:

Twitch is not the FFXIV community.

A better question: did Asmongold actually pay for a subscription or was he doing what pretty much every other twitch streamer did at the time: play the game via the Free Trial?

Another question: did Asmongold's Twitch runs in FFXIV result in actual subscriptions, or were they players who wanted to be with their idol via the Free Trial?

A third question: Did the OP actually sit through the FFXIV Twitch streams of Asmongold? Personally, I'd rather be playing the actual game rather than watching somebody I don't know from Adam play a game.

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Considering he was in stormblood, yes he paid for the game. He also made pf groups all the time.

As for the second question. No way to know how many players he brought in since he played it at the same time as the wow exodus. So we had loads of new players to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Yeah, that's Rich Campbell alright. He was actually a decent streamer from what I remember up until the sexual assault accusation was made against him. He had everything going for him and he threw it all away, lol.

Yeah, OTK. He ain't ever coming back.

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Citizen, you should've seen the video circulating online at the time of when he was first accused. He was streaming with a friend when he received the news.




Sun and moon light your way.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Citizen, you should've seen the video circulating online at the time of when he was first accused. He was streaming with a friend when he received the news.




Sun and moon light your way.

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Dude, I saw that video. It was the strangest thing to watch him go from streaming normally with his friend to looking at his phone with a stunned look on his face.

Honestly, if there's one thing the FFXIV community really doesn't need, it's Asmongold. I know what point you're trying to make but, in this case, it's most definitely a good riddance.

The real reason is he loved doing all the level cap endgame stuff but isn't a fan of story based games which is a massive portion of FF14. Pretty sure he didn't mind the FF14 community and still praises the FF14 GM team for how quickly they dealt with issues related to the community being complete jerks to him when he was streaming. Obviously it was because he is a streamer that he got such quick resolution to issues since there were hundreds of thousands of people watching it and it was pretty much right there for the GMs to follow and see who is being a jerk.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

The real reason is he loved doing all the level cap endgame stuff but isn't a fan of story based games which is a massive portion of FF14. Pretty sure he didn't mind the FF14 community and still praises the FF14 GM team for how quickly they dealt with issues related to the community being complete jerks to him when he was streaming. Obviously it was because he is a streamer that he got such quick resolution to issues since there were hundreds of thousands of people watching it and it was pretty much right there for the GMs to follow and see who is being a jerk.

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It really doesn't help FF14 that all the engaging battle stuff like HoH, EO, Eureka, Bozja, Ultimates, and Savages are locked behind a massive MSQ wall. The MSQ is fine and all but it's far from engaging in terms of actually playing a game, it's more of an interactive movie. This is one of the biggest problems with FF14, I don't want to sit there and tell new FC members oh yeah you can't join Bozja night or w/e new exploratory zone in DT because you haven't done all of ARR, Post ARR, HW, Post HW, SB, Post SB, ShB, Post ShB, EW, Post EW and then all of DT.

I said this in another post but it's funny that SE learned that lesson with new Jobs and now every new Job unlocks in one of the major three cities and yet they keep making this mistake for new content that's actually engaging.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

Honestly, if there's one thing the FFXIV community really doesn't need, it's Asmongold. I know what point you're trying to make but, in this case, it's most definitely a good riddance.

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I don't know much about the guy, admittedly, though what would he inflict upon FFXIV in your view?

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I don't know much about the guy, admittedly, though what would he inflict upon FFXIV in your view?

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Another influx of disenfranchised WoW players and renewed popularity in FF14 streaming probably.

Edit: Oh and a revival in the popularity of Chocobo Racing too.

Good community? Excuse me sir but we were voted the BEST community! We earned that title!

How I dunno. I'd hate to see the other communities if this is the best.

Can this jircle-cerk get yeeted back to the yubtub comments section, or whatever reddit basement it crawled out of already?

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Originally Posted by mythgraven

Can this jircle-cerk get yeeted back to the yubtub comments section, or whatever reddit basement it crawled out of already?

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Would be nice to see some threads nuked...even mine to be fair.

Asmongold is a strange fella.

He has some well thought philosophical or just in general points with mostly the gaming industry, but other times he can be quite bizarre lmao (though I really think in those times he is a playing character only for youtube just like one of his best friends does who likes to clown on him).

Why does this matter? ff14 isn't for some people and it is for others. It doesn't really matter why he stopped it, most likely isn't for him lol.

I'm not really the type to defend everything about ff14 but like It's a good game for a lot of people, doesn't mean it has to be everyones cup of tea, If people dislike the game for reasons then they're free to stop.

FF14's community is a mixed bag, most people in duties don't say anything negative due to moderation, so a lot of people tend to assume everyone is nice.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Asmongold is a strange fella.

He has some well thought philosophical or just in general points with mostly the gaming industry, but other times he can be quite bizarre lmao (though I really think in those times he is a playing character only for youtube just like one of his best friends does who likes to clown on him).

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He's definitely got some good takes here and there, but he's also got some bad ones such as his solution to the Ohio train derailment (just get up and move to another part of the US). In the end he's a video game streamer who's there to entertain people, and I personally take certain things he says with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

Quintessentially FF14.

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Amusing considering you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I don't know much about the guy, admittedly, though what would he inflict upon FFXIV in your view?

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Asmongold is a influencer, comedian and well a persona. He is not a "real person". Same with all the other fake personas streamers and youtubers etc. we have.

And what do they inflict upon games? Drama and drama and more drama. Cause that is how they make money. Asmongold in particular has build his persona around attracting the most trashy and toxic part of the internet and makes good money with it which is alright but it is a sh*tshow to watch. He has grown so big that no matter what he does online he will have people following him around.

And now imagine him playing an MMO and hundreds of his followers scorching his path before and after him and how that looks to the rest of the games players. Asmongold is playing? Guess we aren't questing in area XYZ today cause his followers will massmurder every mob and clog up everything just to bait a reaction out of him.

Not to mention, again, all the drama. Look at Goldentot, Rich or Pyro and his beef with Xeno. Once they hit the end of the MSQ and people lose interest in them they start to create tons of drama all over the place in desperate attempts to stay afloat.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

I think we all know the real reason why Asmongold stopped playing FF14.

Isn't it interesting how even Asmongold had to quit? Despite this being the "best community"?

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No, it is not interesting at all. Not how or why or even if.
I mean, why would anyone care about this "Asmenod" or whatever their name is? Not me, that is for sure. I don't know who they are, and I don't care what they do or what they say.