Fatigue <can I have it?>

Someone likes fighting monsters in a MMO and you think thats wierd?

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Oh no. He is back.

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this sum all the thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKss2...eature=related

I don't even know.......

I really don't see the point.
All it manages to do is frustrate core players by punishing them for playing too much.

The better solution would be to have varied and interesting mid level quests that add character to the world.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I really don't see the point.
All it manages to do is frustrate core players by punishing them for playing too much.

The better solution would be to have varied and interesting mid level quests that add character to the world.

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well, it wouldn't be punishing if it gave ya something.

SE should have the optional "rokien" mode in settings where you gain levels half as fast, delevel when dying, can't have more than 2 anima at any given point, and have the message you're greeted with when logging on be "f*** you".

*Walks into thread*
Wow, It stinks in here!
*Walks out of thread*

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Originally Posted by Rokien

well, it wouldn't be punishing if it gave ya something.

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Well things like permanent stat upgrades could potentially ruin a character forever. It's a comunity game, you can't have something that permanent less you risk completley throwing the game out of ballence and frustrating tons of players.

If it is a reward, it would have to be something substantial while also not being completly broken. I just think there are better ways around this. Things that don't require extremely delicate stat balancing.

If as mentioned before you feel like mid level content is getting obsolete due to fast leveling why didnt you propose the "toggle" of level cap on a dungeon or what not (while the instance is available as it is now for those who farm them for seals or for fun). bonus doing it that hard-cap way would be an achievement or something of that significance.

Also why bonus on stats or anything since you like to level and leveling longer would satisfy you for longer time and that is reward enough. So you get me to think that you want in the pretence of a more suited to you leveling situation to have advantage over those who are leveling in the common way and or have already leveled all their jobs. what should ppl with 7/7 50lvl characters do delete and start over? or QQ permanently?

If you want to level slower, do not play as much... you have that option to play that way if you choose.

Just because you say 'give the option to turn it off' does not validate your suggestion.

wth, first the delevel thread now this. what is wrong with you people!?

Why would anyone want to purposely slow down their leveling, when they don't have to? That makes no sense at all to me.

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Originally Posted by Niqote

If you want to level slower, do not play as much... you have that option to play that way if you choose.

Just because you say 'give the option to turn it off' does not validate your suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Mort

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Read the comment before you quote it. /face!

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Originally Posted by Niqote

Read the comment before you quote it. /face!

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Haha..

The operator wants to fight monsters, and he wants to enjoy mid content. He belives he is leveling to fast, so he miss the content.

Youre advice was to not play as much? But what if he enjoy fighting alot of monsters?
Isnt we supose to enjoy fighting monsters in this game? Maybe not, maybe we just want to end-game :(

I still think your comment was stupid!

Get a mule and level together, shared xp slows it down. xp penalty for dying, i'm in support of, including loss of level. It's not that much, but it's incentive not to die so much, and it gives you the opportunity to grind xp to get a buffer into level, and at 50 you can go back and get xp so you don't delevel.

Okay so.
Rather than implement a thing that punishes you for playing too much, makes levelling harder, is aggravating and not fun and goes as far as incentivizing someone to use it by giving added anything in regards to normal levelling (which will lead to people suffering peer pressure to level in this manner to be 'the best' which in turn will be contributing to making the game's community an overall worse place).

Why not just add an option to turn off earning XP at ALL? There is pretty much no reason to ever use that, but it could be theoretically easy to implement (adding a -300% to earned XP, I think it's theoretically workable). Then if you feel like lagging behind the rest of your party, just turn off your XP gains at all.

tl;dr: This idea is retarded, stupid and idiotic. But there is a simpler solution to acquire the same feeling with easier implementation.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

So, I was thinking a way to keep the same pace of leveling mixed with an option to have a slower pace of leveling. Bring back Fatigue, though, make it an option to turn it on/off if you want. Fatigue had level ups as well, so make the level ups beneficial to those who choose to have it on. It can give you overall perm. stat increase or something else.

Please give your hate, comment, suggestions. Please try to add to the idea. Because really, you shouldn't force people to play a certain way, I mean, that's what you guys always say.

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WTF... No!!!

And here's a suggestion for SE, please give us a dislike button to send these type of threads to oblivion.

They removed fatigue for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Oh no. He is back.

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this was the only thing i could think also

crap, I thought for sure anima from hamlets had been the change that pushed you over the edge.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

crap, I thought for sure anima from hamlets had been the change that pushed you over the edge.

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I thought us explaining why (almost) all of his ideas were bad pushed him over the edge.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

How can you have the option to level slower? Don't level? If I kill a mob I'm going to get the same amout of exp.
This is an mmorpg I don't like to play solo, so don't say you can solo. I play an mmo for a reason, to play with vast amounts of people. With this, I can still play with anyone while leveling slower.

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don't level in Natalan at the wolves? You say you can get 40-50 in a few hours but in all actuality you can really only do that at this one spot. If you want to level slower then go do leves.

I don't really see the purpose of fatigue. even if it's an option. it defeats the purpose of 'rested' XP as well. what happens if you have rested XP and fatigue activates? it clashes.

and why do you want to level slower? I've been moving pretty slowly in my levels, i played for roughly 10 hours last weekends and got maybe 10 levels on my CNJ. i ran around, i quested, i killed some NMs on my pug when i ran into them. enjoy the scenery. plenty of ways to slow down level and enjoy the game without some odd mechanic that doesnt' make a whole lot of sense.

i equate this with making a gear damage toggle. why? everyone would just turn it off because 99% of people find it annoying when their crap breaks and they have to stop, repair it, and then can get back to w/e they were doing.

I did a lot of L40 leves at Bald Knoll, Nine Ivies, and Broken Water. It was perfectly tedious and dreadful. Perfect for you, Rokien. Just level your stuff up there instead of joining Natalan PTs.

hmmm, with two options to choose from (crappy xp, or super fast xp) how many people do you think will choose option 1?

that's right, exactly 0


lets give it up to Rokien for creating yet another completely wasted thread.

Damn, you really are an idiot.

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the reason folks are asking for slower leveling is because the time spent leveling helps to build community (more than allowing players to hone their skills). Lets be honest though, given the choice absolutely nobody is going to choose slower leveling just for fun.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

the reason folks are asking for slower leveling is because the time spent leveling helps to build community

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Very, very true. Unfortunately, since a sizeable chunk of the current population either has everything capped, or at least everything capped that they want to cap, the EXP parties where the community is built are few and far between these days. SE has had to compensate by making it real easy and fast for people to get their stuff levelled up.

They also made an error by caving in to the whining minority of Asperger kids who want to play this multiplayer game by themselves. Thanks to that, even the people who haven't levelled everything yet won't PT, because it's easier to just solo it all.

Ohh a Rokien thread.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

don't level in Natalan at the wolves? You say you can get 40-50 in a few hours but in all actuality you can really only do that at this one spot. If you want to level slower then go do leves.

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Like I have stated, this is an mmorpg, if I wanna go solo I'll play a single player game(theres millions of em).
I wanna play with people.

Also, guys, just because I said fatigue, doesn't mean it has to be fatigue.

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Originally Posted by Onisake

I don't really see the purpose of fatigue. even if it's an option. it defeats the purpose of 'rested' XP as well. what happens if you have rested XP and fatigue activates? it clashes.

and why do you want to level slower? I've been moving pretty slowly in my levels, i played for roughly 10 hours last weekends and got maybe 10 levels on my CNJ. i ran around, i quested, i killed some NMs on my pug when i ran into them. enjoy the scenery. plenty of ways to slow down level and enjoy the game without some odd mechanic that doesnt' make a whole lot of sense.

i equate this with making a gear damage toggle. why? everyone would just turn it off because 99% of people find it annoying when their crap breaks and they have to stop, repair it, and then can get back to w/e they were doing.

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Here is teh thing, YOU ran around. I like to play with people, sorry.

Also, rested xp, you can stillg et it, you will just gain a little more exp? I don't see your problem.

Gear damage should be turned off, it's silly and has no impact on anything.

When we had fatigue, you all complained, now you all want it back like it was an ex-BF/GF... and I say NAY!

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Originally Posted by Rokien

So, I was thinking a way to keep the same pace of leveling mixed with an option to have a slower pace of leveling. Bring back Fatigue, though, make it an option to turn it on/off if you want. Fatigue had level ups as well, so make the level ups beneficial to those who choose to have it on. It can give you overall perm. stat increase or something else.

Please give your hate, comment, suggestions. Please try to add to the idea. Because really, you shouldn't force people to play a certain way, I mean, that's what you guys always say.

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They got rid of it for a reason, because it was craptastic.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

They got rid of it for a reason, because it was craptastic.

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omg..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abE09-tqhoM

I don't see a problem with this, but, I want it on all the time, not till I get x amount of exp, so it's not really Fatigue.

Also, I liked the fatigue system.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I don't see your problem.

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the problem is that you're asking for an optional toggle that absolutely nobody will use. Can we let this thread die now?

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

the problem is that you're asking for an optional toggle that absolutely nobody will use. Can we let this thread die now?

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People will turn it on if you give them the right initiative. I know, plenty of people that would turn it on.

I think I have the perfect compromise that would satisfy both the OP and everyone else: merit parties!

Those who like leveling can do it (and get permanent stat bonuses for each class). Those who don't like leveling can focus on other things.

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Originally Posted by CalamityAsuka

I think I have the perfect compromise that would satisfy both the OP and everyone else: merit parties!

Those who like leveling can do it (and get permanent stat bonuses for each class). Those who don't like leveling can focus on other things.

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It doesn't have to be stat bonus, could be something else.

But the levels I was talking about were the hidden Fatigue levels you got.