Rare Achievement Opportunity - Thief's Maps

Today:
20 > 15 > 6 > 3 > 1 > 0 > 0

Total:
300 > 187 > 74 > 30 > 12 > 5 > 1

Odd one today, 7/7 on 3rd door
Today:
20 > 10 > 7 > 7 > 3 > 2 > 0

Total:
320 > 197 > 81 > 37 > 15 > 7 > 1

I genuinely fear all thief map achievement hunter.

Goodluck with your attempt. I’m morbidly curious about the data you’re tracking.

Today:
20 > 13 > 8 > 4 > 2 > 0 > 0

Erstwhile:
38 > 25 > 11 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 0

Total:
378 > 235 > 100 > 47 > 19 > 8 > 1

This achievement is so insane.

The math of a guy who did it, took him 2,5 years. He needed 1600 of those. For around 7500 Gazelleskin maps to even get them. With them being at 40000 gil nowadays, the maps alone cost 300million. He made around 200 million himself with all the maps.
https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4347856/

Seeing how you are almost at 400, while only having 1 clear - when you should be at 5 by now...

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　　８回目　　７１０枚目　２０１９／１０／１６　（３８６枚開封後）←暗黒期。心の病発症寸前状態。
　　９回目　　７１２枚目　２０１９／１０／１７　　　（２枚開封後）

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7th 324th sheet 2019/05/10 (after opening 18 sheets)
8th 710th sheet 2019/10/16 (After opening 386 sheets) ← Dark period. On the verge of developing a mental illness.

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Dark period....

He needed almost 400 for one clear...

SE can you please stop adding these insane achievements that take several years to complete. Whats next? 100 clears?

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Another comment

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Originally Posted by shandreax

Thief Maps are mentally destroying! Trying to get this achievement is anything but fun and the only items of value for doing this huge grind, rare pets etc. SE has happily made these readily available in other ways so this is nothing but an absolutely boring grind with no bonus.

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When the only rare items from it were given by moogle events... Maybe thief maps should be made tradeable to make it easier for the achievement hunters

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

This achievement is so insane.

The math of a guy who did it, took him 2,5 years. He needed 1600 of those. For around 7500 Gazelleskin maps to even get them. With them being at 40000 gil nowadays, the maps alone cost 300million. He made around 200 million himself with all the maps.
https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4347856/

Seeing how you are almost at 400, while only having 1 clear - when you should be at 5 by now...




Dark period....

He needed almost 400 for one clear...

SE can you please stop adding these insane achievements that take several years to complete. Whats next? 100 clears?

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Its not that bad. 21 clears took me 1530 maps, 190 being farmed by myself, the others provided by 7 other people. It took about 2000 gazelle maps for me and I made much more money, than I spent during that process. It took me like 3 or 4 months to get the achievement done, while only playing in the evenings (maybe 3-4 hours of farm per day)

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

Its not that bad. 21 clears took me 1530 maps, 190 being farmed by myself, the others provided by 7 other people. It took about 2000 gazelle maps for me and I made much more money, than I spent during that process. It took me like 3 or 4 months to get the achievement done, while only playing in the evenings (maybe 3-4 hours of farm per day)

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I'm curious as someone who hates myself and has way too much desire to see myself cry. Can you do the Gazelle Maps solo? Or is it better as a group?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

I made much more money, than I spent during that process. It took me like 3 or 4 months to get the achievement done, while only playing in the evenings (maybe 3-4 hours of farm per day)

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Yeah, was wondering for how much he bought those maps back then, JP servers were pretty cheap sometimes - makes sense to make more gil at least on average.

Well, you "only" contributed ~15% of the maps, so it only took you 15% of the time? xD While for him he did over 80% by himself. I get that grouping up and each doing their own part accelerates this achievement a lot though.

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Got 503 pieces at N Uzune
Get 780 pieces at Uzune Altar
276 sheets brought in by G10PT participants

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So if you don't join discords for this purpose you are in for a lot of pain and suffering. Sorry, but I still don't like it even if its "just" 3-4hrs for 120 days in your case. You could hunt like 2000-3000 S mobs that take 10min on average for that time-investment. Still think its too much, but I get collectors wont be afraid of trying it.

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Originally Posted by ManaEthielday

I'm curious as someone who hates myself and has way too much desire to see myself cry. Can you do the Gazelle Maps solo? Or is it better as a group?

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You can solo lvl 80 8man maps with bluemage nowadays. You go as healer with basic instinct and mighty guard.

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Originally Posted by ManaEthielday

I'm curious as someone who hates myself and has way too much desire to see myself cry. Can you do the Gazelle Maps solo? Or is it better as a group?

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The last Blue Mage update made them much, much easier to solo. I cleaned up my guide and added some videos for the altars, working on videos for the canals
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/485583-Blue-Mage-solo-Treasure-Maps

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

You can solo lvl 80 8man maps with bluemage nowadays. You go as healer with basic instinct and mighty guard.

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They 80 altar bosses have so much HP and can't be stunned. Every fight is 2-3 minutes long, it gets painful. However, the loot is very nice

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

With them being at 40000 gil nowadays, the maps alone cost 300million. He made around 200 million himself with all the maps.

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Having 7 alts that can gather a map each day and mail it to my main helps a ton with that :cool:

I'd estimate I get about 60k-70k in gil/loot per Gazelleskin map currently. I should track that over a few hundred maps and see what it comes out to

Typical run today:
21 maps
90 minutes
10 portals

Altars 7 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 0
7 lesser
3 greater
8 elder
3 numbered mandragora adds
12 namazu adds

Canals 3 > 2 > 1 > 1 > 0 > 0 > 0
2 namazu adds

4 timeworn thief's map
7,054 crystals
6,177 clusters
338,500 gil
4 whisperfine fleece
2 Ballroom Etiquette - Scholarly Certitude
2 Taoist's wool
2 holy linen
665 Poetics

I estimate about 1.8M in loot, so around 85k per map. It was a little heavy on the elder summons, take away a few of them and it would be around 70k per map

Today (10 straight 1st chamber ejections):
22 > 8 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 1 > 0

Elsewhere this week (2nd clear on #387):
39 > 21 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 1

Total:
439 > 264 > 115 > 52 > 22 > 10 > 2

Today:
20 > 10 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 0 > 0

Elsewhere this week:
23 > 15 > 5 > 2 > 0 > 0 > 0

Total:
482 > 289 > 124 > 57 > 23 > 10 > 2

Today:
20 > 15 > 11 > 5 > 1 > 1 > 0

3rd clear on #503 earlier this week:
21 > 15 > 8 > 5 > 2 > 2 > 1

Total:
523 > 319 > 143 > 67 > 26 > 13 > 3

No Sunday run next week

4th Clear on #538 in elsewhere run:
36 > 19 > 12 > 6 > 2 > 1 > 1

Total:
559 > 338 > 155 > 73 > 28 > 14 > 4

Running another 20 on Sunday

5th clear on elsewhere:
33 > 24 > 10 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 1

Total:
592 > 362 > 165 > 79 > 32 > 17 > 5

I'm now referring to Sunday runs as cursed runs, 1/402 on Sunday, 4/190 otherwise

Another cursed run Sunday, same time

Cursed run still cursed:
20 > 16 > 7 > 2 > 0 > 0 > 0

Total:
612 > 378 > 172 > 81 > 32 > 17 > 5

Cursed run clear https://youtu.be/dJuCc8-3OfY
20 > 16 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 1 > 1

Today was 5th day in a row with a clear, elsewhere this week:
208 > 119 > 69 > 42 > 22 > 8 > 4

Total:
840 > 513 > 245 > 126 > 55 > 26 > 10

Forgot to mention, clears on maps:
#270 #387 #503 #538 #569 #662 #701 #748 #787 #830

Cursed Run was extra cursed this week:
23 > 12 > 5 > 0 > 0 > 0 > 0

Clear on #871 Elsewhere:
120 > 73 > 33 > 17 > 8 > 5 > 1

Total:
983 > 598 > 283 > 143 > 63 > 31 > 11

Going to miss Sunday Cursed run this week have some stuff to do but will be there again following week Stouter <3

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Originally Posted by Mulch

Going to miss Sunday Cursed run this week have some stuff to do but will be there again following week Stouter <3

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Sounds good, I have enough maps to keep going for a bit

After a 3 clear party tonight and 2 other clears this week, I'm at 16/20

Ohh very nice congratulations :D

Another extra-cursed run:
20 > 13 > 4 > 2 > 0 > 0 > 0

But 5 clears elsewhere:
139 > 85 > 44 > 27 > 12 > 9 > 5

Total:
1142 > 696 > 331 > 172 > 75 > 40 > 16

Clears:
270
387
503
538
569
662
701
748
787
830
871
1025
1044
1083
1094
1096

Cursed clear today on run #1272:
20 > 16 > 11 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 1

No luck elsewhere in the week:
128 > 73 > 38 > 20 > 8 > 2 > 0

Total:
1290 > 785 > 380 > 197 > 85 > 43 > 17

Clears on #1377 & #1408 this week:
120 > 79 > 42 > 19 > 7 > 2 > 2

1 clear left:
1410 > 864 > 422 > 216 > 92 > 45 > 19

Cursed runs: 3/505
All others: 16/905

Another cursed run:
28 > 14 > 6 > 1 > 0 > 0 > 0

Total:
1438 > 878 > 428 > 217 > 92 > 45 > 19

One more clear to go right? Good luck!

Final clear on map #1619

Totals:
1630 > 1010 > 491 > 250 > 106 > 49 > 20

One final cursed run this Sunday

So in the final tally it ended up being about 1 per 80 maps to go all the way, with all the later steps each being about half as likely as the one before. Interesting, and congrats on your goal.

The free door/rainbow path rate was close to 2% for the first four doors (it doesn't happen for the last two)

1. 2.1% 34/1630
2. 1.6% 16/1010
3. 2.0% 10/491
4. 2.4% 6/250

That's not enough to skew the success rate for the doors, my personal success rate excluding the free doors was:

1. 61% 976/1596
2. 48% 475/994
3. 50% 240/481
4. 41% 100/244
5. 46% 49/106
6. 41% 20/49

Someone else that recently finished took over 3,400 portals to make it to 20, a clear for every 100 portals seems to be the average

Average farming rate for thief's maps is around 1 for every 5½ Gazelleskin Maps - about 30 minutes for a solo Blue Mage

So ~125 hours to farm up 250 maps. If you run parties where 8 people all bring maps, that gets you to 2,000

~150 hours to run those 2,000 thief's maps with a group of 8

So this achievement can be all yours for less than 300 hours of game time

Gil from just the thief's map chests was north of 62 million, toss in the adds and it was probably around 80 million. Gil + drops (mainly crystals/clusters) from Gazelleskins was around 75k per map. Buying Gazelleskins for 40k each, that's about 50 million profit off them, so you'd make ~130 million Gil getting the achievement

Congratulations! That's some patience and dedication.

Awesome Congratulations! Also thanks for the maps and the videos helped solo some gazzeles as well <3 :D

Just learned of Thief maps! How do I start?