More good glams and emotes on the shop

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Honestly if they looked gross on some races should have just had them be a head item but have the headphone around the neck. I feel bad for Au Ra and the lack of Miqo examples makes me nervous too. I like the overall design of the outfit but the headphones just make me want to wait for a sale.

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The Phookas released a video showing off what the set looks like on different races and genders. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
At 3:15, there's a section that show what the ear guards look like on different races.

By Menphina, that outfit is hideous! Also have no idea what that has to do with magitek.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Also have no idea what that has to do with magitek.

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Magitek-powered portable orchestrion earmuffs, presumably.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Magitek-powered portable orchestrion earmuffs, presumably.

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Meh. But, I appreciate the thought. Probably the best explanation.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

I dont follow, there is alot of glam in this game besides the mogstation

You just have to be creative with it and willing to research for it.

Place like Eorzea Collection show you that you can make glam out of anything if you have the imagination to make it happen.

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if you looked on eorzean collection for 5 minutes youd find out over half the glams use mogstation items

yawn, get better material please

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

if you looked on eorzean collection for 5 minutes youd find out over half the glams use mogstation items

yawn, get better material please

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1,788 pages of mog only
382 pages seasonal only
3,153 pages game items only.
2,496 pages mog, seasonal and ingame.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

1,788 outfits use mog items only
382 use seasonal items only
3,153 use in game items only
2,496 use both mog and seasonal.

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which was their point

good job I guess ?

Imagine being told by

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Welfare rats ;)

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I really need to make a male character one day just to dress them in fem-looking gear, would be awesome...

ANYWAY. That new shop gear is... yeah, not a fan at all. The shoes are OK I suppose, but even if this was free, I would likely just stick it in the draws and never touch it. Not really a fan of the more 'modern' looking glams to be honest. The emote is sweet, but still sucks its more things that are on the store and not in-game.

I personally don't mind when items from the Korean and/or Chinese servers, character cosplay, IRL event/campaign rewards, and/or items that clearly clash with XIV's lore/worldbuilding get added to the cash shop but I get kind of leery when stuff outside those criteria, that could work with the in-game lore and worldbuilding, get added. ＼(;´□｀)/
Examples include: the Seigneur's Attire, the Far Northern Attire, the Resshi Attire, Mheg Deaca Attire, and the Fuga Attire.

As for my actual opinion on how the outfit looks, I like it but don't we already have quiet a few baggy, similarly-looking hoodies and jackets? I like the boots and gloves and the ear guards are fine but I think a /visor option is in order. The pants are just generic. ((●≧艸≦)

Also the picture used in the OP isn't actually an in-game screenshot. It's from back in the day when the Thavnairian Bustier set was still gender-locked, so someone drew it on. This doesn't have anything to really do with the new cash shop outfit but I thought it was a good moment to bring up XIV community history. （。＞ω＜）。

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I really need to make a male character one day just to dress them in fem-looking gear, would be awesome...

ANYWAY. That new shop gear is... yeah, not a fan at all. The shoes are OK I suppose, but even if this was free, I would likely just stick it in the draws and never touch it. Not really a fan of the more 'modern' looking glams to be honest. The emote is sweet, but still sucks its more things that are on the store and not in-game.

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Only way I'd consider buying this is if the headphones actually worked like a portable Orchestration and I can set my own music wherever I am.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

which was their point

good job I guess ?

Imagine being told by

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calls people welfare rats but has fflogs hidden

truly a gem

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Only way I'd consider buying this is if the headphones actually worked like a portal Orchestration and I can set my own music wherever I am.

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Ok... as somone who collects music scrolls, I want this to be a thing now. I dunno if I would actually spend money to get it, but as an in-game item 100% yes. I would do anything, even crafting jobs to get it.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

1,788 outfits use mog items
382 use seasonal items
3,153 use in game items only.
2,496 use mog, seasonal and ingame.

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How are you calculating those? As much as there are plenty of in-game-only outfits, that sounds like a an improbably small number out of 5649 pages x 36 per page = over 200,000 outfits altogether.

At a quick test myself, using the "exclude Mog Station items" search filter takes that right down to 3535 pages – a loss of 2114 pages or over 76,000 glamours.

Adding "exclude seasonal items" on top of that only makes a small further dent, down to 3153 pages.

That said, that still leaves 113,000 glamours made from solely in-game items, and the Mog Station pieces might be something small or easily substituted.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Pretty much my point tbh, everything at this point is just going to the mogstation for cash instead of putting anything in the game

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Unless I missed a beat, doesn't CBU3 keep a steady cadence of at least one new in-game glam every patch? It seems like that's the way it's been for a long time. Each time there's a new patch I go to the market board to see what the new gear is and I can't remember ever not finding any.

more shit in the shop, instead of put in the game to incentivize people to actually play the game.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Ok... as somone who collects music scrolls, I want this to be a thing now. I dunno if I would actually spend money to get it, but as an in-game item 100% yes. I would do anything, even crafting jobs to get it.

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Yes we mustn't be too excited at such an idea or surely be in the Mog-shop. I'm lukewarm interested in such a thing, so please have it be something we can craft or earn in-game haha.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

How are you calculating those? As much as there are plenty of in-game-only outfits, that sounds like a an improbably small number out of 5649 pages x 36 per page = over 200,000 outfits altogether.

At a quick test myself, using the "exclude Mog Station items" search filter takes that right down to 3535 pages – a loss of 2114 pages or over 76,000 glamours.

Adding "exclude seasonal items" on top of that only makes a small further dent, down to 3153 pages.

That said, that still leaves 113,000 glamours made from solely in-game items, and the Mog Station pieces might be something small or easily substituted.

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Thank you for the correction should have said pages. Ill fix the post to say pages..

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Unless I missed a beat, doesn't CBU3 keep a steady cadence of at least one new glam every patch? It seems like that's the way it's been for a long time. Each time there's a new patch I go to the market board to see what the new gear is and I can't remember ever not finding any.

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I agree that the amount of items going to the store nowadays is depressing and I do wish more was going in-game as rewards, though I do find the notion that more effort is actually being put into the store then the actual patchs disingenuous at best. We are still getting new Glam and Gear (Most of which look better then what the store offers) and mounts/minions.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Yes we mustn't be too excited at such an idea or surely be in the Mog-shop. I'm lukewarm interested in such a thing, so please have it be something we can craft or earn in-game haha.

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Yeah, would make for a cool anniversary item or MSQ reward. Crafting seems logical, would be fine with having it behind Island Sanctary.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

if you looked on eorzean collection for 5 minutes youd find out over half the glams use mogstation items

yawn, get better material please

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Okay that is nice....Want a cookie?

But anywho, I dont see the problem in this. You dont even need to use EC, just come up with different type of glams as long you have the imagination and creative to do it.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Okay that is nice....Want a cookie?

But anywho, I dont see the problem in this. You dont even need to use EC, just come up with different type of glams as long you have the imagination and creative to do it.

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Says the person wearing 3/5 of the new Magitek set. (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Says the person wearing 3/5 of the new Magitek set. (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

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of course he doesnt "see the problem in this"

oink oink

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Says the person wearing 3/5 of the new Magitek set. (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

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Yeah and what about it?

I want it and I had the money for it, so I got it. I already doing some work on it already and hopefully, I can come up with some awesome glam with it (you should see some of my glams from the Lala thread)!

At the end of the day, to each its own. If you want to get it, then just get it. If you don't want it, then dont worry about it.

I dont like immersion breaking modern glams

Funny thing about this debate..nobody will drop the ugly truth about the two sides.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Only way I'd consider buying this is if the headphones actually worked like a portable Orchestration and I can set my own music wherever I am.

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Thats brilliant. I would pay a lot more than asking price for that.

Eh...Im honestly getting sick and tired of these designer modern day glams. I rather have more lore appropriate adventuring glams than the stuff theyve been churning out.

That can stay in the cash shop where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Yeah and what about it?

I want it and I had the money for it, so I got it. I already doing some work on it already and hopefully, I can come up with some awesome glam with it (you should see some of my glams from the Lala thread)!

At the end of the day, to each its own. If you want to get it, then just get it. If you don't want it, then dont worry about it.

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My comment was more about how you are saying how people can be creative and imaginative with glamour without cash shop item while wearing 3/5 of the latest cash shop outfit. The message just kind of rings hollow when you don't follow it yourself. ((ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Funny thing about this debate..nobody will drop the ugly truth about the two sides.

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Well pitter-patter get at 'er. ✧⁺⸜(●′▾‵●)⸝⁺✧

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Maybe it could be profitable if SE introduced a system where you could buy one individual piece for a reduced price. Perhaps individual pieces could be sold for $5 (I'd love a lower price but I'm using their current prices as a basis) and the full set would remain at $18, being cheaper than buying each part separately to incentivize people to buy it if they want the full set.

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That's a really good idea. I often don't worry too much about most of the sets on Mogstation because I'm only interested in one or two items from them. And like you said, the full set can still be cheaper than buying all pieces individually to still incentivize that, but they could gain with players who would buy those one or two pieces when they wouldn't have bought anything at all before.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

My comment was more about how you are saying how people can be creative and imaginative with glamour without cash shop item while wearing 3/5 of the latest cash shop outfit. The message just kind of rings hollow when you don't follow it yourself. ((ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖

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Hmm, maybe I did not explain myself correctly (for that, its my bad) but I use all of the stuff I get from mogstation, event and gear to make my glams (almost nine years of stuff). Besides you can make anything if you put your mind too it and I just doing some stuff before I went to work today.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Well pitter-patter get at 'er. ✧⁺⸜(●′▾‵●)⸝⁺✧

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Nope not that daring. Lol

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Nope not that daring. Lol

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Really? /10char

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Welfare rats wont take kindly to this thread ;)

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Man, all you people shilling for the cash shop and how it goes back into the game sure must feel silly now. Inb4 patch cycles get stretched to 5 months and the dungeon gets removed. lol Should have bought more whale mounts, guys. :D Mr. SE needs a new yacht.

Just means for me time to save up and/or wait for a sale.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

Man, all you people shilling for the cash shop and how it goes back into the game sure must feel silly now. Inb4 patch cycles get stretched to 5 months and the dungeon gets removed. lol Should have bought more whale mounts, guys. :D Mr. SE needs a new yacht.

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I'm probably one of the few who isn't bothered by length of patch cycles.

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Originally Posted by Krokov

I'm probably one of the few who isn't bothered by length of patch cycles.

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I too am not bothered paying for less content and a more bloated cash shop on the game I’ve already paid for twice over

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

So are we gonna have another thread where the whales and mogstation defenders throw around the tired old argument of "noooooo you don't have to buy it!!!! it's oPtIoNaL!!!" or can we all finally agree that this is a problem?

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It isn't a problem whatsoever. SE is a company. A company exists to make money. The items are entirely optional. I don't care about mogstation and rarely spend money on the mogstation. There is also a metric ton of incredible glamour in this game. The endless tears folk of these forums just like to focus on the negative. They don't like to look at the full picture because the truth hurts.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

It isn't a problem whatsoever. SE is a company. A company exists to make money. The items are entirely optional. I don't care about mogstation and rarely spend money on the mogstation. There is also a metric ton of incredible glamour in this game. The endless tears folk of these forums just like to focus on the negative. They don't like to look at the full picture because the truth hurts.

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Square hasn’t released any content in months but keeps filling up the mogstation with new stuff

Could they please focus on actually releasing a decent volume of new content, we don’t need more mogstation items

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Lalafell being the only race that wears the headphones correctly is comical.

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Don't worry, there is already a mod to make the headphones not look like garbo

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Unless I missed a beat, doesn't CBU3 keep a steady cadence of at least one new glam every patch? It seems like that's the way it's been for a long time. Each time there's a new patch I go to the market board to see what the new gear is and I can't remember ever not finding any.

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One new glamour sold on the marketboard and crafted with map materials, in addition to glamours from other sources like (for this cycle) variant dungeons and Island Sanctuary, and intermittently from PVP, and that's only the limit if you're counting glamour as only the level 1 stuff with no other purpose.

We've also gotten the tomestone, raid and alliance gear, and usually at least one new design from either dungeon or crafted gear, within a cycle of six months or two patches – so on how you count those up, anything from 4 outfits (plus say 3 glamours, making 7) that a single-job-player can now use, to 4x3=12 new gear models to 4x7=28 new exact variations of outfits, and weapons besides. And in that time, we've gotten... what, three or four new single outfits from the cash shop?

Grumble about the cash shop if you like, but you can't claim that the majority of glamour is going to the shop.