FF16 expansions/DLCs in the work? How will this affect FF14?

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Originally Posted by Catwho

I'm also of the mind that any DLC will either take place during the time skips, or take place as a prequel.

But there are quite a few plot threads they can pick at besides Leviathan the Lost. Without getting into heavy spoilers: What was a certain character doing with his cult for those 18 years? Why exactly was Jill forced to do for the Ironbloods that gave her such a case of self loathing? What was Cid doing in Waloed and what exactly made him quit his position there?

And of course, the Greater Continent hasn't been touched at all.

The game itself felt complete. Clive's story was complete. It's all the surrounding cast who still have mysteries to explore.

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Perhaps not a DLC but there is so much unexplained lore that gives them enough material for FF16-2.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

Have YOU beaten the final boss? Ultima did NOT cause the blight. He escaped from the blight and he literally told Clive the same fate will come to Valisthea. The Blight is quite literally STILL a mystery.

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He straight up explains that magic was the direct cause of the blight and the crystals accelerated it... It's why Clive did what he did at the end of the game and why life on the planet is completely restored in the post credit cutscene. Magic no longer existed, thus the blight went away.

There is no mystery, you just didn't pay attention.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

He straight up explains that magic was the direct cause of the blight and the crystals accelerated it... It's why Clive did what he did at the end of the game and why life on the planet is completely restored in the post credit cutscene. Magic no longer existed, thus the blight went away.

There is no mystery, you just didn't pay attention.

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Yes, there absolutely is a mystery. Why does magic hasten or starts the Blight? What is the Blight Ultima fled from? Who or what started the Blight? Furthermore, we do not know the status of the Blight from Ultima's land and it is hinted that it's far worse than Valisthea's Blight and could come to Valisthea later.

There is zero explanation to any of these questions. Yes, if you don't think beyond what the game tells you I suppose there is absolutely no mystery.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

Yes, there absolutely is a mystery. Why does magic hasten or starts the Blight? What is the Blight Ultima fled from? Who or what started the Blight? Furthermore, we do not know the status of the Blight from Ultima's land and it is hinted that it's far worse than Valisthea's Blight and could come to Valisthea later.

There is zero explanation to any of these questions. Yes, if you don't think beyond what the game tells you I suppose there is absolutely no mystery.

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So... you didn't pay attention at all then? lmao.

No one "started" the blight. Magic uses aether. Aether is basically the lifeblood of the planet. Bearers who were granted the power to use magic without crystals pulled the aether directly from the air thus causing a deficiency in aether thus causing the land to die. Its the same reason why magic users couldn't use magic in blighted areas because there was no aether to pull.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

So... you didn't pay attention at all then? lmao.

No one "started" the blight. Magic uses aether. Aether is basically the lifeblood of the planet. Bearers who were granted the power to use magic without crystals pulled the aether directly from the air thus causing a deficiency in aether thus causing the land to die. Its the same reason why magic users couldn't use magic in blighted areas because there was no aether to pull.

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You definitely did not pay attention at all because it isn't that simple. First, you are confusing the two "Blights". One is the Valisthean Blight, and the other is the Blight faced by Ultima, which is NOT just about using magic. The Blight is also hinted at being something more than just a result of using aether, something that isn't an issue in the "New World" that Ultima seeks to create.

Second, aether is not pulled from the air and the Blight isn't an issue of deficiency but imbalance (this should be obvious even in the early game when Cid said the Blight is a matter of the land "forgetting"; he didn't use words like "depletion" or "plundered" etc.). Towards the end of the game, the total amount of aether in the system is still roughly constant, not negative. Primogenesis causes a surfeit of aether from above, while the Blight depletes aether from below (and no, bearers don't pull aether from the air like you say, it's from the ground). The net change in aether is zero.

Third, the Valisthean Blight is pretty much engineered by Ultima. The Mothercrystals are doing most of the work, to funnel aether for Ultima's spell. People's petty usages of magic was only a very minor part. Without the Mothercrystals, there will be no Blight (however, in this case presumably Ultima would also not be enacting their second part of the plan either and not create man and give them magic). You do realize that the aether didn't just disappear right? Most of it is funneled to Ultima.

Which begs the question: what caused the Blight in Ultima's original world? Unless you think Ultima has his own god who deployed Mothercrystals in his world to suck in aether... it's going to be a completely different reason.

Ultima straight up tells you that in their time the blight was a byproduct of using magic. There is no difference between the blight during ultima's time and the blight during Clive's. The only core difference is the mothercrystals accelerated the process as they gathered aether to cast the spell raise which would destroy everything and recreate the world.

Cid's explanation was from someone who didn't know fully what the blight was. The entire point of that was to misdirect the players which is literally a core part of FF story telling. All your "hints" are just you trying to compound information prior to learning what the blight actually was during the final confrontation with Ultima.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Ultima straight up tells you that in their time the blight was a byproduct of using magic. There is no difference between the blight during ultima's time and the blight during Clive's. The only core difference is the mothercrystals accelerated the process as they gathered aether to cast the spell raise which would destroy everything and recreate the world.

Cid's explanation was from someone who didn't know fully what the blight was. The entire point of that was to misdirect the players which is literally a core part of FF story telling. All your "hints" are just you trying to compound information prior to learning what the blight actually was during the final confrontation with Ultima.

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Do not reason with TheDecay they are just an alt troll who thrive off of this tedious back and forth that and straight up fabricating 'facts' out of thin air. You have explained most of 'their' issues yet they're not listening also kind of hard to do a sequel where there really isn't any grounds or plot points to give you one. My interpretation is the after credits is so far in the future magic and eikons are myth/legends/fairy tale. Either way conserve your energy :D

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Ultima straight up tells you that in their time the blight was a byproduct of using magic. There is no difference between the blight during ultima's time and the blight during Clive's. The only core difference is the mothercrystals accelerated the process as they gathered aether to cast the spell raise which would destroy everything and recreate the world.

Cid's explanation was from someone who didn't know fully what the blight was. The entire point of that was to misdirect the players which is literally a core part of FF story telling. All your "hints" are just you trying to compound information prior to learning what the blight actually was during the final confrontation with Ultima.

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No, he never said that. He said that the "price of this boon" was the pall that descended. This could mean anything, like other jealous gods cursing their land. Before you say "price of this boon" obviously means that it's the direct result of using magic, you should note that people use that kind of phrase to mean indirect effects as well, like someone saying that "the price of our pride is to be banished from the realm"; that doesn't mean the pride literally banished them but that their pride incurred the wrath of someone who banished them.

OP seems to want a reply here (despite not bothering to answer to me directly) so I'll just say it again:

Speculation is worthless to any serious conversation. We can make up whatever we want based on whatever circumstantial evidence randomly floating around.

Here, let me give it a try:
Did you guys ever noticed how after Alexander we never got real closure to the Ascian Travanchet? This CERTAINLY means that the next expansion will be more about the Ascians, as Travanchet could take the reins of the entire operation and find a way to revive Zodiark and bring back the rejoining.

See? I can come up with whatever based on some actual loose thread I found.

And I don't mind repeating myself: Let's say XVI gets a DLC. There's no way to know how it would impact XIV. Would the same people work on it? Would it be faster now that the whole frame work is set? Would they bring a whole new team just to handle DLCs?

Again: All of this is worthless speculation. It can be fun to do so, just don't present it as a fact-based thread.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

No, he never said that. He said that the "price of this boon" was the pall that descended. This could mean anything, like other jealous gods cursing their land. Before you say "price of this boon" obviously means that it's the direct result of using magic, you should note that people use that kind of phrase to mean indirect effects as well, like someone saying that "the price of our pride is to be banished from the realm"; that doesn't mean the pride literally banished them but that their pride incurred the wrath of someone who banished them.

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Ultima:
"We visited upon it a miracle-magic. And in its light did all life flourish.
"Yet the price for this boon would prove heavy."
"A pall descended upon this land, painting the horizon black as night"

And Joshua LITERALLY follows up that scene with "If magic caused the blight, then what of the mothercrystals" which we later find out their purpose to cast the powerful raise spell to recreate the world.

Ultima literally spells out exactly what the blight is. The use of magic caused the blight because the blight is the result of depleted aether, which again, is why all plant life dies and the soil turns black and its why you can't use magic in blighted areas as there is no aether there.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Ultima:
"We visited upon it a miracle-magic. And in its light did all life flourish.
"Yet the price for this boon would prove heavy."
"A pall descended upon this land, painting the horizon black as night"

And Joshua LITERALLY follows up that scene with "If magic caused the blight, then what of the mothercrystals" which we later find out their purpose to cast the powerful raise spell to recreate the world.

Ultima literally spells out exactly what the blight is. The use of magic caused the blight because the blight is the result of depleted aether, which again, is why all plant life dies and the soil turns black and its why you can't use magic in blighted areas as there is no aether there.

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"Pride caused our downfall". Same deal.

No, its called cause and effect.

They learned magic.
Magic uses aether.
The planet also uses aether.
Planet starts dying.

Pride had nothing to do with the blight.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

"Pride caused our downfall". Same deal.

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Now you're arguing in bad faith.

Be firm but polite, recognize your tactics and don't fall into your own traps.