Commemorative Coin

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Originally Posted by Otaku

I find it funny that everyone is NPC'n them when if you remember when Jobs first came out people were NPC'n Keepers Hymn's because they didn't know what they were for. I'll keep my coin, worst off I'm chewing up one inv slot, gonna rofl when coin is for something big in 1.23/2.0

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The patch Keeper's Hymn was added, the patch notes had it in read that it would be useable in the future + dev posts told us what it was for before that patch was released.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

The patch Keeper's Hymn was added, the patch notes had it in read that it would be useable in the future + dev posts told us what it was for before that patch was released.

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Wouldn't mind some info from the Devs on the coin too. If they do say something i'll be looking for codewords like "plans" and "at this time". If so, i'll likely hang onto it. Just not sure the Devs here seem more undecided on the very items they have/release which makes me even more uncertain when it comes to the items i get.

Never had alot of beastmen coins since i haven't even been playing that long, but sure wish i had held onto what i did have :(

Going to keep it because caravan gives plenty of seals, it may be useless some day but it will be unique anyway
a memento

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Originally Posted by Otaku

You must be from the future then if you know for a fact that the coin is useless. They gave us the hymn then a dev said it was for a future patch, now they give us the coin, just gonna wait for a dev to say something before trading it for seals I can get in a day.

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I guess I am just good at common sense lol.

And... 25k seals in a day?! How do you not go mad after so many caravans in such a short time!

Good beginning lore for upcoming Gold Saucer

Or it could turn out to be just like:

Kiss of the Morning Meadow

If anyone remembers those. They were Unique / Untradeable and given as part of the Quest line just before Grand Companies were launched. No one knew what to do with them and in the end, they were just a "throwaway" (just use it).

http://ffxiv.yg.com/item/kiss-of-the...dow?id=3020203


It'd be great if we got a Developer Response for clarity on this. :)

I'll be keeping it, it's not like I NEED one of the new weapons.

And, I would prefer if the devs didn't say anything - let's keep it a mystery for a while.

Damn I thought you guys meant like a real coin that se would sell (like what america does for like the gold coins and all of that limited time and only so many of them made bs) ... hell i'd be all up in that Have Cid's head on one side a chocobo on the other... and then you get a pretty ingame item for buying the coin

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

I guess I am just good at common sense lol.

And... 25k seals in a day?! How do you not go mad after so many caravans in such a short time!

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750~1k seals in ~12mins is 5~6hrs, usually takes me 2 days but can be done in one, besides if you're doing this as say an LS event just have 2~3 people go to the end and craft while the others finish the run and switch off now and then

This is kind of backward but related to at least U.S. Navy tradition. i would keep it personally, like my military script from FFXI. though i might see if i could trade it to a NPC Chief or any NCO or enlisted NPC who salutes you.

Tradition is that all new officers are given or must acquire a silver dollar. You give the silver dollar to the first person who salutes you after receiving your commission. My ROTC MCPO had quite a collection of them, being as he was CMC for our NTC.

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Originally Posted by Huginn

This is kind of backward but related to at least U.S. Navy tradition. i would keep it personally, like my military script from FFXI. though i might see if i could trade it to a NPC Chief or any NCO or enlisted NPC who salutes you.

Tradition is that all new officers are given or must acquire a silver dollar. You give the silver dollar to the first person who salutes you after receiving your commission. My ROTC MCPO had quite a collection of them, being as he was CMC for our NTC.

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rotc, mcpo, cmc, ntc.... Why do military people abbreviate everything like this? The rest of us have no idea what you're saying T_T

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Originally Posted by Relic

rotc, mcpo, cmc, ntc.... Why do military people abbreviate everything like this? The rest of us have no idea what you're saying T_T

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Question asked.... Question answered ^.^;; It's all about keeping civies in the dark ^.^;

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Originally Posted by Relic

rotc, mcpo, cmc, ntc.... Why do military people abbreviate everything like this? The rest of us have no idea what you're saying T_T

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www.google.com

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Originally Posted by Relic

rotc, mcpo, cmc, ntc.... Why do military people abbreviate everything like this? The rest of us have no idea what you're saying T_T

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Please forgive me. Reserve Officer Training Corps, Master Chief Petty Officer, Command Master Chief, Naval Training Center, HospitalMan Chief Master.

and a Command Master Chief is the head Non-Commissioned Officer of a particular ship or station.
the CMC, having trained you to be an officer, would be at your commissioning and would often be the first person to salute you, as you would now outrank him.

Any chance of some Dev input on this?

i'd rather they keep this a secret to be honest

I personally would like to know from the devs whether this will have a use in the future or if we can just trade it in without worrying. ^^

What is one coin going to do? Buy you a new house?

Uhm you need this coin for relic >.<
If you trade it for seals you're screwed!

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Uhm you need this coin for relic >.<
If you trade it for seals you're screwed!

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http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/w...eeded_edit.jpg

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Uhm you need this coin for relic¹ >.<
If you trade it for seals you're screwed!

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Originally Posted by EmSix

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/w...eeded_edit.jpg

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1: Final Fantasy Lodestone Forums http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ive-Coin/page6 User KumaAkuma reveals use for commemorative coin. SE et all 27JUN2012

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Originally Posted by Huginn

1: Final Fantasy Lodestone Forums http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ive-Coin/page6 User KumaAkuma reveals use for commemorative coin. SE et all 27JUN2012

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lol. I actually clicked the link and looked at it and said, "WTF, that's not a dev post."


Burned >.<

I don't know how to think about it honestly. It would be typical SE to make the coin important in the future. We have been throwing away or selling beastcoins and now people are holding onto them for relics. I am saving my coin, there isn't anything I need from GC, so I will see what happens in the future.

It really goes either way, but maybe a Dev response could give clarification, unless it is their intent to make us debate about this. If that is the case, good mind game SE.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

If that is the case, good mind game SE.

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A dev response would be optimal, I agree. I don't need to be told everything but let's face it: I don't trust that the only options I have are to either:

• Keep it solely for sentimental value and forego taking advantage of its only potential
• Sell it shamelessly on the black market like that isn't completely disrespectful

I'd rather be told:

"If you held onto it... you might be glad you did someday. Just sayin'."
OR
"We will never do anything with that coin,you have nothing to lose by exchanging it."

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Originally Posted by Madruk

What is one coin going to do? Buy you a new house?

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I'm. so. glad. you. asked.

• We know that player/company housing is coming, right?
• Like FFXI housing, it will likely include furnishings, yes?
• Did you not have flags, certificates, signage, etc. on your walls?

Maybe you'd to frame your coin with some certification and put that on the wall?
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/...lenge-coin.png
I hear they do that with military coinage sometimes...
army.net

You had tables in FFXI, didn't you? Maybe you'd like your coin on that table.
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/...ks/Coinage.png
BOOM.
That was the sound of someone trying to beat their coin back out of a qiqirn.
OR YOUR MIND BLOWING.
I'm not sure.
marineparentsinc.com

There could be a side-quest in post-housing 2.0 where players (who did not dishonor their company by illegally trading their memento of the day we restored the Eorzean Alliance to low-life qiqirn like common jinglyshine) could trade their well-protected coin to an NPC craftsman in our company command... who would see it framed proper for display in our future home; like people with honor.

EDIT: To be honest, I rather like the wall ornament idea. If this coin was never intended for anything else, I say we petition for this. Who's with me?! Who doesn't wanna soil their good name!?

My guess is that the coin gains in Value over time.

So if you hold the coin till 1.23 it will be worth say 35k.

If you wait till 2.0 it will be worth 40k.

...and so on.

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This is kind of backward but related to at least U.S. Navy tradition. i would keep it personally, like my military script from FFXI. though i might see if i could trade it to a NPC Chief or any NCO or enlisted NPC who salutes you.

Tradition is that all new officers are given or must acquire a silver dollar. You give the silver dollar to the first person who salutes you after receiving your commission. My ROTC MCPO had quite a collection of them, being as he was CMC for our NTC.

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totally forgot about this.

You guys. You crack me up.

I would just trade it in if you need the seals. SE would have to be huge dicks to allow you to trade the coin in for seals and then introduce something in the future which requires it with no method of re-obtaining it.

People would be in uproar on these forums.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

I would just trade it in if you need the seals. SE would have to be huge dicks to allow you to trade the coin in for seals and then introduce something in the future which requires it with no method of re-obtaining it.

People would be in uproar on these forums.

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Then you could only blame yourself. SE isn't forcing you to trade the coin, nor do they advertise doing so. What happens is you either save it, or let temptation get you and trade it in. The consequences I guess we will find out in the future.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Lots of awesome stuff said.

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Totally with you, Moose! :D

My guess is that if they do introduce something that requires it then they will allow you to re-obtain it somehow, SE don't want to piss people off and punish them for trading it in. Will probably be for an inflated amount of seals or a high amount of gil from the qiqirn that buys them in the first place.

You guys are looking waaaay too far into this. The coin is nothing, it's 25k deals or -1 inv space. If it does get used go something in the future (bc of this thread...) it will be reobtainable.

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

If it does get used go something in the future (bc of this thread...) it will be reobtainable.

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For 50k seals amiright?

I can't wait for them to make it reobtainable then people just spam it to get an endless amount of seals >__>

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

If it does get used go something in the future (bc of this thread...) it will be reobtainable.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

My guess is that if they do introduce something that requires it then they will allow you to re-obtain it somehow.

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They let people screw themselves out of opportunities all the time in FFXI. If people want to complain about hand-holding and "every player has every item," why do they just assume that they'd coddle you if you already traded it in? It sounds like the kind of thing most people are asking for, to some degree. Not this exactly, but at least the sentiment.

Of course, the coin might just be to prevent you from going over-cap at quest completion...
Sure, it might just be to teach people that the black market NPCs exist...

But if you traded it in, you traded it in. They never said it would or would not be for anything else -- and it sure doesn't fit with the honorable grand company lore that you're double dipping for profit by giving unauthorized items to the street market. I wouldn't be the least bit upset if it was unobtainable afterwards. Nobody made anyone trade it; it was a choice and people either acted on basic assumption or with caution.

It's so easy to get seals from caravan I'm glad I saved it

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

They let people screw themselves out of opportunities all the time in FFXI. If people want to complain about hand-holding and "every player has every item," why do they just assume that they'd coddle you if you already traded it in? It sounds like the kind of thing most people are asking for, to some degree. Not this exactly, but at least the sentiment.

Of course, the coin might just be to prevent you from going over-cap at quest completion...
Sure, it might just be to teach people that the black market NPCs exist...

But if you traded it in, you traded it in. They never said it would or would not be for anything else -- and it sure doesn't fit with the honorable grand company lore that you're double dipping for profit by giving unauthorized items to the street market. I wouldn't be the least bit upset if it was unobtainable afterwards. Nobody made anyone trade it; it was a choice and people either acted on basic assumption or with caution.

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Well two things to say to this. 1. XI and XIV are very diffirent in these kinds of situations. I believe that's what people who you refer to in your second point complain about which leads me into... 2. I don't believe a lot of people are asking for this. The people who are asking for this are specificaly the people who have plenty of seals and/or are simply saving their coin, bc everyone wants something no one else has, but no one wants to not be able to get something someone else has.

I don't believe it's to save you from wasting your seals on accidently going over the limit. What I feel seems fairly obvious is that the huge 25k seals for the promotion is more of a "check" to say "you gotta earn this before we promote you. We won't keep them, but we have to see you've earned them." Basically to buy time between the NCO and officer ranks without people saying AWWW WTF like they did when they first saw the 25k reqirement.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

For 50k seals amiright?

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Oh I'm sure if this happens it will cost more than originally. I don't think it was the original intention but I do think it's a possibility bc of this thread. What I DON'T think is that the coin will be for something worthwhile and SE will tell everyone who traded it in "too bad. Shouldn't be such a casual gamer and do moar caravan."

Disclaimer: I could be wrong. This is just what I feel is common sense.

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

What I DON'T think is that the coin will be for something worthwhile and SE will tell everyone who traded it in "too bad."

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To be fair, I'm not sure how worthwhile a worthless moghouse furning would be, lol. I'm sure there are even people who caravan the nights away who would rather have another 25k in their pocket than a DAT's art packet on the wall.

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

the huge 25k seals for the promotion is more of a "check" to say "you gotta earn this before we promote you. We won't keep them, but we have to see you've earned them."

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I don't disagree with that at all; that's the only justifiable reason to take what should have been a 4,500 seal promotion and hike it by 20,500 seals. However, if neither of the other 2 options I mentioned are in play (or the third "they're planning something" paranoia option), why not just give back the 25k upon quest completion? Why add that extra step? Certainly not just for the opportunity for sentimentality or they'd have given the 25k AND the coin instead of AS the coin.

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Originally Posted by IStolzI

everyone wants something no one else has, but no one wants to not be able to get something someone else has.

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While I don't disagree, and while I don't want to sound callous, people are going to have to learn to live with that regardless of what they do with this coin. This is how the world works. I missed out on the Reindeer Costume and the Dragon Helms (my freaking zodiac!) due to university and I'm not tearing up the forums about it. It's as much my own fault for not logging in during exams that it would be if someone gave up their coin.

People who didn't buy collectors have to deal with not ever having the complete onion set. People who didn't play during 1.0 will have to deal with the fact that they can't have a goobbue. People years from now will have to deal with the fact that they pay more than legacy members... and if they do something with this coin, people who traded it in are going to have to live with the fact that they made their decision.

There are a lot of great points brought up here, like the theories on why our promotion was so expensive, and how we get the same number of seals back (in coin form) upon completion.

The thing that still gets me though.... why would the EA wish to have you trade your coin on the black market to get the seals back? If SE's only intention was to "check" you have lots of seals then give them back, then why not make it official and have the coin exchangeable to one of the GC "Hall" NPCs for your 25k seals? Promoting illegal trade of your coin on the black market just seems really strange to me. Just one of those things that leads me to believe that something will happen with this in 2.0. Maybe the coin will increase in value once the world is desecrated, maybe there will be some sort of novelty item we can have our coin crafted into, or displayed as a furnishing in some way, perhaps merely having the coin in your possession will offer some type of buff like a 10% bonus to GC seal gains, who knows. Or maybe in 2.0 the black market will be abolished and all the players who chose to KEEP their coin will forever be missing out on a free 25k seals.

Spare us the agony Devs, at least drop a hint lol

It most likely seemed like a 'cute' way to allow you to turn it back in if you want. 'Lore' wise, you should keep it. 'Lore' wise it is dishonourable to turn it in. 'Lore' wise you would do things dishonourable with the black market. 'Game mechanic' wise, it's just a mechanism to get your seals back if you need it.

I don't think there's any need to read further into it. I also find it extremely unlikely it would have any other value in the future, as can you imagine the MASSIVE backlash that would occur if it did from all the people who did turn it in. SE does not need that kind of grief ^.^;