Harassment for new healers? How do i block?

OP character is not showing. Banned or deleted?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

OP character is not showing. Banned or deleted?

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I just looked. 2 posts. 2nd says “redacted to delete game”

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

I just looked. 2 posts. 2nd says “redacted to delete game”

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Oh this thread from 2021: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...03#post5773503

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

I just looked. 2 posts. 2nd says “redacted to delete game”

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Looks like it's not the first time they quit. That "redacted to delete game" was from a thread they started in 2021 saying "Why I am quitting the game".

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Looks like it's not the first time they quit. That "redacted to delete game" was from a thread they started in 2021 saying "Why I am quitting the game".

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Yeah I didn’t look too far into it. Not much for lodestone snooping and such. But that’s very telling of their character

From old thread:

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

One thing I will say is this: you had a popup come up multiple times asking you if you wanted to port into the boss fight. Why you didn't take the teleport, I don't know, but you were given this option (multiple times, might I add. 15 seconds into EVERY boss fight it asks you if you wish to teleport.) and you didn't take it. In your teammates eyes, you could've been AFKing for no reason. Did you, perhaps, bring up "Hey I don't know how to get back to you guys?" If not: that's on you.

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So the first time they had a bad experience which I'm guessing involved getting lost in the Praetorium. -> deleted game

Now they had some kind of bad experience healing. -> deleted character (as it doesn't show up as their avatar anymore)

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Consider it a learning experience.

Don't attack mobs until the tank stops. (not universally true, but takes additional learning to know when and how to not pull aggro while running)
Turn off your tank stance if there is another tank using theirs.

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Originally Posted by DeWynter

Unlike your experience however, no one blamed us, and I don't think people blaming new tanks for something like that is a very common experience, it just seems to be Praetorium that's ran with this 'speedrunners' efficiency.

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Seems like their other thread was saying people were harassing them for being a new tank. And now it's people harassing them for being a new healer. But it also seems like they refused to rez and participate, if the quote above is anything to go by. Hmmm, it appears that context does matter.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Seems like their other thread was saying people were harassing them for being a new tank. And now it's people harassing them for being a new healer. But it also seems like they refused to rez and participate, if the quote above is anything to go by. Hmmm, it appears that context does matter.

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Still doesn't matter to the question whatsoever. Context matters to the GMs alone. Why it matters to anyone here beyond simple curiosity is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Seems like their other thread was saying people were harassing them for being a new tank. And now it's people harassing them for being a new healer. But it also seems like they refused to rez and participate, if the quote above is anything to go by. Hmmm, it appears that context does matter.

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This is why I’m cynical of peoples claims. But I guess it’s an egg meet face ordeal for others

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Semantics example:
Person A; “put your toys away”
person B; “they’re not toys, they’re action figures”

Not example of semantics:
You; “they said nothing”
Me; “they literally said something”

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Yes, well done you have managed to illustrate a very basic concept of what would be considered a semantic. Now allow me to elaborate for you...

Semantics is the study concerned with deriving meaning in language, how words, phrases, and sentences convey meaning, now, if this implication is lost on you -- The original poster is making a request for advice on how to report people and not a factual claim. Now, you have been playing with semantics here as your sole argument to their post is they were making a claim (Which involves making a 'factual' statement or opinion and not one seeking advice on how to report someone) - Which they were not. It would be playing with semantics to say there were trying to assert a claim.

If you struggle to comprehend that "Players are harassing new healers" - Is not a claim in the literal sense then the onus is on your reading comprehension more than anything.

So yes, you were playing with semantics, and this is on the basis that you seem to struggle to make the distinction between a claim and a request for advice. You were using their language/post in a dishonest and deliberate way in a thinly veiled attempt to win argument.

Well, since OP is gone (character not showing anymore), I guess we'll never know if they successfully sent in a report or not.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Yes, well done you have managed to illustrate a very basic concept of what would be considered a semantic. Now allow me to elaborate for you...

Semantics is the study concerned with deriving meaning in language, how words, phrases, and sentences convey meaning, now, if this implication is lost on you -- The original poster is making a request for advice on how to report people and not a factual claim. Now, you have been playing with semantics here as your sole argument to their post is they were making a claim (Which involves making a 'factual' statement or opinion and not one seeking advice on how to report someone) - Which they were not. It would be playing with semantics to say there were trying to assert a claim.

If you struggle to comprehend that "Players are harassing new healers" - Is not a claim in the literal sense then the onus is on your reading comprehension more than anything.

So yes, you were playing with semantics, and this is on the basis that you seem to struggle to make the distinction between a claim and a request for advice. You were using their language/post in a dishonest and deliberate way in a thinly veiled attempt to win argument.

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Ok but, you are still wrong. You said I’m doubling down on semantics. I said it’s not semantics. Semantics is not saying the opposite of something is true. Right is not left. Wet is not dry. Making a claim is not claiming nothing. Again, you are simply wrong. Save some face

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Yes, well done you have managed to illustrate a very basic concept of what would be considered a semantic. Now allow me to elaborate for you...

Semantics is the study concerned with deriving meaning in language, how words, phrases, and sentences convey meaning, now, if this implication is lost on you -- The original poster is making a request for advice on how to report people and not a factual claim. Now, you have been playing with semantics here as your sole argument to their post is they were making a claim (Which involves making a 'factual' statement or opinion and not one seeking advice on how to report someone) - Which they were not. It would be playing with semantics to say there were trying to assert a claim.

If you struggle to comprehend that "Players are harassing new healers" - Is not a claim in the literal sense then the onus is on your reading comprehension more than anything.

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Good job using copy and paste from google.

This just seems silly. "Players are harassing new healers" is, in fact, a literal claim. It does not matter that they were asking how to go about reporting. That's irrelevant to the point you are trying to push. The fact that them saying they want to report people for harassing new healers is them making a claim that someone is harassing healers for being new. What would be semantics is whether they mean harassing healers for simply being new or harassing new healers who don't fully understand their role.

But to say that someone didn't make a claim when they did is not semantics. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand, but then again, people always surprise me with the amount of mental gynamstics they manage to pull.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Good job using copy and paste from google.

This just seems silly. "Players are harassing new healers" is, in fact, a literal claim. It does not matter that they were asking how to go about reporting. That's irrelevant to the point you are trying to push. The fact that them saying they want to report people for harassing new healers is them making a claim that someone is harassing healers for being new. What would be semantics is whether they mean harassing healers for simply being new or harassing new healers who don't fully understand their role.

But to say that someone didn't make a claim when they did is not semantics. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand, but then again, people always surprise me with the amount of mental gynamstics they manage to pull.

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No, it is just a coherently written definition, but hey, you do you with this one.

Well done in highlighting the point, however... Your quote "Players are harassing new healers" - Is not equivalent nor the same as the post made by the original author.

It's ironic that people are lumping on context matters whilst subsequently stripping context from the OP for asking for advice on how to report. The only one doing mental gymnastics here is you.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Then they could have asked how to report in general without claiming anything at all. They started with offering more info than needed. With the way this community can be, you can’t blame people for being cynical and wanting a bit of context.

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Offering more info than needed? They put the subject of why they want to report so they can be told the right option to select. Makes complete sense to me.

You could just you know, not assume the worst of people. Kinda makes ya look like a dick. I don't know you and I'm not saying you are. But it sure makes ya look like one.

We can all do better.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Offering more info than needed? They put the subject of why they want to report so they can be told the right option to select. Makes complete sense to me.

You could just you know, not assume the worst of people. Kinda makes ya look like a dick. I don't know you and I'm not saying you are. But it sure makes ya look like one.

We can all do better.

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Right option? They literally said harassment. I think they got the right option. “How do I report” is enough of a question to get the results you need. But you do you with the name calling. It’s ok when you guys go low though right

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

. Well done in highlighting the point, however... Your quote "Players are harassing new healers" - Is not equivalent nor the same as the post made by the original author.

It's ironic that people are lumping on context matters whilst subsequently stripping context from the OP for asking for advice on how to report. The only one doing mental gymnastics here is you.

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Oh yeah?

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Originally Posted by Cannahbliss

Hello, please advise me how to report players for harassing new healers.

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Seems to me like they say they want to report players for harassing new healers. And what was my quote? That they claimed players are harassing new healers? I changed "for" to "are". That's actual semantics.

What you're attempting to do is a perfect example of gas lighting.

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Originally Posted by MaxCarnage

Oh yeah?



Seems to me like they say they want to report players for harassing new healers. And what was my quote? That they claimed players are harassing new healers? I changed "for" to "are". That's actual semantics.

What you're attempting to do is a perfect example of gas lighting.

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Yes, they gave a reason as to wish they feel like they would require reporting someone. Depending on the game, there can be and are several different routes for reporting depending on the behavior, said poster may not have been entirely cognizant of this and felt it prudent to give the reason for reporting, e.g., reporting for harassment could have a different area to report, when compared to, say, report for cheating or botting. Their post was perfectly reasonable and logical.

That being said, I don't see why you or anyone else in this thread feels they should be entitled to further backstory. They asked for advice on how to report harassment on new healers, and people seem more inclined to ask for context whilst subsequently strutting around with the "I bet they were just told they were playing incorrectly" mentality. Based on what, precisely?

I don't see how you being cognizant of the fact changes absolutely anything barring giving an avenue to proclaim the same nonsense of an overly sensitive community, that is immune to feedback.

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Right option? They literally said harassment. I think they got the right option. “How do I report” is enough of a question to get the results you need. But you do you with the name calling. It’s ok when you guys go low though right

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It's obvious to us since we know what the report options are. To someone who never saw it thought, possibly not.

I never did insult you? Just told ya how it looks from my point of view. I even went as far as to say I'm not calling you that. Either way, I'm not gonna keep going further. Have a good day.

Never change, forums, making an argument out of nothing lol

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Yes, they gave a reason as to wish they feel like they would require reporting someone .

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You mean to say that they did give a reason, which would in turn mean they were making a claim? Isn't that exactly what you were arguing with the other poster about?

I don't care about the validity of the claim or getting more information. I never said any of that. What I said was in regards to you stating false information. That was all. And now you just admitted you were wrong. Have a good day.

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Originally Posted by Zebraoracle

Never change, forums, making an argument out of nothing lol

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ThE cLaIm! We must think of the claim being made!

Jokes aside English is not my native tongue but aren't claim and reason closely related and don't many see them the same cause in a reason is the cause, but a claim is a claim, but at the core the claim is still the reason for the report? As per the OP the reason or claim for the report can be new healer harassment. Without the OP saying we cannot know for certain which form they meant it as, it could be used as the reason or claim in this context or at the very least that is how I see it.

Cause in ESL even our teacher treated them as two different concepts,

So in terms of everyday speech from the laymen isn't this a battle of semantics depending on how you view the OP's title of harassment towards new healers?

Waiting for the next years thread "Quitting because of harrasment for new dps". Please look forward.

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Originally Posted by Smollett

Waiting for the next years thread "Quitting because of harrasment for new dps". Please look forward.

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Followed by new crafter, new gatherer and new to pvp

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Originally Posted by Smollett

Waiting for the next years thread "Quitting because of harrasment for new dps". Please look forward.

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As always you cannot trust someone publicly announcing they are quitting the game to actually quit.

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Originally Posted by Caddo

Well, since OP is gone (character not showing anymore), I guess we\\\\'ll never know if they successfully sent in a report or not.

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Damn i hoped for some nice entertainment here.... Oh well, off to other threads!

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Originally Posted by Caddo

Well, since OP is gone (character not showing anymore), I guess we'll never know if they successfully sent in a report or not.

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They glanced at what this thread has become and ran off. I don't blame them. We are psychopaths who will turn literally anything into an argument and take everything personally.

I don't see why people harrass healers. We always need more healers out there since most players don't want to heal.

If a healer can't keep up with me as a tank then I just... slow down. The run will finish just fine.

What's the best is playing a healer and getting harassed by the tank because they keep dying. You check their gear to see they are wearing caster gear and no tank gear.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

What's the best is playing a healer and getting harassed by the tank because they keep dying. You check their gear to see they are wearing caster gear and no tank gear.

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Leveling dungeons in a nutshell.

I got reported for not using kardia once, so I demanded context. And even then I don’t trust it. Probably warped to make the person be the root of all evil

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Originally Posted by hynaku

What's the best is playing a healer and getting harassed by the tank because they keep dying. You check their gear to see they are wearing caster gear and no tank gear.

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Didn't you know if you spam heals on them and only heals you should be able to keep any tank alive through anything until your MP runs out. Come on this is common sense.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Didn't you know if you spam heals on them and only heals you should be able to keep any tank alive through anything until your MP runs out. Come on this is common sense.

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Let's see you keep a tank alive wearing only cloth gear. You run out of mp fast when after one hit there about dead and one tank buster kills them at full hp.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Let's see you keep a tank alive wearing only cloth gear. You run out of mp fast when after one hit there about dead and one tank buster kills them at full hp.

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Tried that, and I did in all 90s content. Granted the tank was a WAR but still

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

I love how we all became automatic juries when joining this forum. /s

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You are not a femroe, therefore you are sentenced to serve nasty greedy lalafells in the mines of Uld’ah, where it is hoped, you earn enough gil to buy a fanta and repent.

I like this new job! :D

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

I feel like we need context. I bet the so called harassment is probably someone telling them they weren’t doing well,maybe even offered tips and they are just upset that the person said something.

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While we all play the speculating / "I bet" game, let me join by saying that I bet people who say they are being reported only because of they're 'trying to help' is in actuality trying to cover up that they're acting like arseholes towards the people they're 'trying to help'.

See, we can play the whole thing this way too.

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Originally Posted by Smollett

Yeah yeah, someone asked for context and immediately written in harrasment supporters. Nothing new.

So called "harrasers" are the most harrased group of people.

But whatever. Go on, bring light and justice.

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\[+]/ praise the fun. Amen brother.
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I wont be replying to the other people as obviously the OP doesn’t have to reply but I was curious what she deemed harassment. People wield the ToS like a sword and shield at every little thing so we might have been able to steer then away from fale reporting in the future.

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Originally Posted by LaughingBanana

While we all play the speculating / "I bet" game, let me join by saying that I bet people who say they are being reported only because of they're 'trying to help' is in actuality trying to cover up that they're acting like arseholes towards the people they're 'trying to help'.

See, we can play the whole thing this way too.

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https://i.imgur.com/2wB10Va.png

Don't bother with report, nothing happens.


Go to social > contacts, there you have a list of recent people you've played with. Right click and select "Add to blacklist".


You will never hear from them again.

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Originally Posted by Jirah

I got reported for not using kardia once, so I demanded context. And even then I don’t trust it. Probably warped to make the person be the root of all evil

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Accidentally not using it right? Because if you go in a group and purposely choose not to use Kardia that is technically gameplay sabotage if the group is struggling (for a lack of a better term, being gameplay sabotage), especially if you meme'd it and said something like "Don't need it" (not saying you did).