Best part of a new patch? Third party tools not working.

With how you made your char and how you glam perhaps you should use em.

Couldn't use chat bubbles so couldn't clear. So frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Why do people care so much if others use cactbot? Its not like the EX fights are remotely difficult.

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To be honest in our group we simply run with the policy "you can use it, but we don't recommend it" as I am calling for my group for one and we worry about overreliance on the tool. It slows improvement if used excessively.

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Originally Posted by Saranade

Congratulations to all of the players who cleared content today *without* the use of third party tools as the game is intended to be played. Thank you!

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https://i.imgur.com/2ApEArr.jpeg

R.I.P. to the people who use that one plugin for cosmetic mods.

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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https://media.giphy.com/media/kGCuRgmbnO9EI/giphy.gif

Everyone is always talking about the third party but what about fourth and beyond?

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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https://i.ibb.co/m4r5khf/team-america.gif

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

With how you made your char and how you glam perhaps you should use em.

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This almost made me laugh out loud at work :x

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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I have changed my mind...ban all mods.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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holy crap such nonsense. this isn't the ideal character for FFXIV. this looks like something you would find in IMVU(a large cesspool of people constantly trying to break rules so they can have cyber seggs) I hope I never ever see this mod it's awful

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Originally Posted by Mizunuma_Shiharu

hate to burst your bubble but the vast majority of 3rd party tools were back up and running within 2 hours after patch, and private tools were back in 1 hour, dalamud takes longer though if that's what your getting at and the reaction library gets updated after a day and after world 1st for major raids

also, if you used a monitor or keyboard or even a game pad then you used a 3rd party tool ;P

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never heard it put that way before but yeah true

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

holy crap such nonsense. this isn't the ideal character for FFXIV. this looks like something you would find in IMVU(a large cesspool of people constantly trying to break rules so they can have cyber seggs) I hope I never ever see this mod it's awful

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I think they joking, but I'll won't 100% sit with that just incase

it's painful to play without nc or alex because i live on the opposite end of the country from where the servers are hosted

I love this thread, because either they're saying that only extreme + is "content", which is not only a hot take, but also interesting since according to [ REDACTED ] they haven't done a single of those fights..... Or they feel superior that they can legally clear hallway Nr.3214 with 2 trash packs and 3 bosses that are specifically made to not be challenging , so I guess congratulations for having a hand up on people that relied on accessibility features to enjoy the story?

Damn it seems that most of your post history is about third party tools. Are you okay ?

I'm sure a lot of criminals miss being able to double weave. I wonder when the devs will care for high ping players and fix that issue

Players angry about content they'll never do. Surprise.

So my FC and I were on a Discord call at the time when servers went live after unlocking new alliance..how effed am I since I think that was considered third party tool /nervous sweat

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Originally Posted by Bunnycake

So my FC and I were on a Discord call at the time when servers went live after unlocking new alliance..how effed am I since I think that was considered third party tool /nervous sweat

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The ToS is vague enough that Discord is technically against the ToS, but I don't see them pursuing it since it is used for a lot of things like RP events and general socializing.

Your Operating System is third-party, please uninstall it.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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Is this FFXIV or IMVU

i just wanna stop lagging mid-instance man why am i teleporting across the stage

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Is this FFXIV or IMVU

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Pretty sure they all migrated to XIV, that's why we get...whatever that is.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

The ToS is vague enough that Discord is technically against the ToS, but I don't see them pursuing it since it is used for a lot of things like RP events and general socializing.

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So I'm boned, fack. I was joking on that post to poke fun of the troll

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Originally Posted by Bunnycake

So I'm boned, fack. I was joking on that post to poke fun of the troll

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Square is sending the response team to your house at this moment to uninstall the evil tos breaking program known as discord from your computer

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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Not my proudest fap, but...

https://i.imgur.com/sAp2csa.gif

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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Being able to share it with others who use the same mod doesnt make it not client side. If it wasnt client side you would be able to affect people who do not have it installed. Which is obviously not true.

It is funny to see people with smashing good titles not being able to dodge base mechanics... in casual content ;)

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

FFXIV is an add-on game now. It took us nine years to get where WoW is, but we finally did it. Many people in this thread are grateful and happy for our plugins. They use them for the same reason WoW players do: QoL and to add new features that take the company a while to do.

Being the “add-on free game” has always been a bragging point for us. “We don’t need add-ons!” we used to tell ourselves. But then we did. And so the gap between FFXIV and WoW has closed. One less argument we have in our favor.

If anything, the games have become outright reversed from where they were two years ago. WoW is easier for new players to grasp thanks to Dragonflight, and WoW players don’t need a smorgasbord of third-party programs running. All plugins are QoL only (graphics mods aren’t allowed), and they all run in-line. FFXIV uses several third-party programs including ACT, Cactpot, Dalamud, and xivlauncher. Their plugins are small and modular, while ours are these behemoths running on spaghetti code and require numerous executables running in the background. And we say this is less add-on intrusion than WoW.

And that’s not to mention the massive growth in popularity that graphics mods have seen in the past year. Even if you don’t use them, you likely know someone who does. And they’re not just client-side: with Mare, you can share your mods with others. Ever see someone with “Mare Lamentorium” in their adventure plates? Yep. And if you think it can’t possibly affect you, try getting into a screenshot contest or do roleplaying without it. The community has changed and it’s not going back. And you’re okay with it.

This is the ideal FFXIV character. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.

https://files.catbox.moe/owhdhi.jpg

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SE can fix that with their client, and they should, likewise stop recording to combat logs as well.

And yes they should due to it creates an unfair advantage against Console users.

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Originally Posted by Saranade

Congratulations to all of the players who cleared content today *without* the use of third party tools as the game is intended to be played. Thank you!

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Yeah, but I'm guessing people who use them will be back and C U Next Tuesday! :3

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Is this FFXIV or IMVU

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IMVU?

https://i.imgur.com/X29xLud.gif

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Is this FFXIV or IMVU

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withering from age, brb

don't care when trolls speak they shoot themselves in their own feet.

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Originally Posted by Saranade

Congratulations to all of the players who cleared content today *without* the use of third party tools as the game is intended to be played. Thank you!

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*looks at every non-japanese, american or european players playing at +300ms and dying for stupid stuff because "that's how you are intended to play"


Also I saw a mod with less than 2 hours into server opens on twitter so I guess jokes on you for being clueless?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

It is funny to see people with smashing good titles not being able to dodge base mechanics... in casual content ;)

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I think that's a totally different issue. I have friends who do savages regularly, and they will often die if they get the *normal* version of the raid they're progging in roulette because they keep expecting the savage mechanics.

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Originally Posted by AmpelioB

*looks at every non-japanese, american or european players playing at +300ms and dying for stupid stuff because "that's how you are intended to play"


Also I saw a mod with less than 2 hours into server opens on twitter so I guess jokes on you for being clueless?

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they're probably only aware of the methods that utilize the "alternative" launcher.

I hate to break it to you but like....every patch people clear content without mods. So this isn't a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Johners

Thoughts and prayers are with this players in these trying, plugin-less times...

https://i.redd.it/mq27cyfksbba1.png

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Such entitlement…

I hope that person get banned.

When you're anti something but have zero knowledge about what you are fighting against.

The fact the made a thread of this because they are mad is great. Give it a week...it'll be back and they will be back to being salty,