They don't tell you so you can't try to get around it next time.
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They don't tell you so you can't try to get around it next time.
You should got an email stating which part of the TOS you infringed.
Edit: Looks like you got a warning for harassments. Which is very vague cause you could be jokingly saying f** and get reported if someone is easily offended
Every time one of these threads comes up, I'm reminded that forum posters have a much higher proportion of warnings/bans than the full player base.
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Originally Posted by Ceridwenae;6057433
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Came here to note that while OP is generally just about the game... they are definitely not without ...moments.
Good reply.
We'd all like to think we do nothing wrong, but if you're getting warnings maybe stop that extra second before you say anything in game.
Been playing for the entire run of the game. No warnings. Ever. I talk all the time to randoms but am careful in "mixed" company to not say anything I wouldn't tell a complete stranger face to face. Seems to be working.
I just wanted to add to this. What the majority of players here have said is true; we all stopped talking in game b/c the first big general / vague harassment policy change back at the end of stormblood / beginning of shadowbringers. This caused us all to realize we could be reported for literally giving advice to a new player.
Btw, we warned in many forum posts this would kill community within the game, and it did. Of course, this was before the big wave of taverns / Rp venues. This was known... as the big quiet - I'm kidding, I'm just calling it that LOL. I've played since 2nd beta 1.0, and this game was never this quiet. We were very chatty like other MMO's, we just weren't as rude / abrassive. Many of us tried to fight back on the forums but were essentially told we don't know what we're talking about and nothing would change - LOL. Yep, everyone stopped helping / talking / interacting.
The second big policy change that occurred was when the streamers were playing. This was actually an improvement to the first one - SE changed the punishments to actually have a cooldown, before they were permanent. SE also said they would be more specific with which policy you broke - before, I could be wrong about this, they wouldn't even tell you which rule you broke let alone what you actually said.
I know it's easy to just blame SE, and rightfully we should ask for more lenient punishment considering some GM's can escalate a single first time offense to level 2 / 3 and bypass the warning all together, giving you an outright ban on a first offense if they deem it too intense (again, I don't have personal experience with this, but I've read posts of banned accounts recounting their side saying this happened to them /grainofsalt). However, the community at large doesn't know how absolutely brutal the punishment system is in this game and rarely come to the forums to find out, so there isn't enough of an outcry.
The advice I can give you is, if you have friends - only speak to them through discord, even free company chat is dangerous b/c you never know when a member starts to feel a certain way about you and decide to try to ruin your entire game. If you don't have friends, like me XD, it's just a pretty quiet game. It's still very enjoyable, but I suggest a lot of youtube in the background / family to speak with outside of the game <3
People do it all the time anyways i.e that one deranged roe player, stalkers, botters, ect.. If they want to get around something, they will lol. Sometimes people are just dumb and one slip up causes a warning. If you play this game a lot - and I mean a lot - and between chatting in Limsa, roulettes, new content - if you RP, venues, ect.. - you will probably at least be engaging with people a moderate amount. If you get slapped with a warning, I'd bet most players will not know what the heck for unless they were being egregious to begin with. You can get slapped with a warning for saying the F word in chat to telling someone how to play, to of course the more bad stuff (griefing/harassment/ect) they definitely need to be clearer with the reports. With the bar for getting a warning being as low as saying 'feck' in public chat, there's not much to get around anyways. You will either continue doing it or you won't.
This, again, is running under the assumption that I was being hostile to someone in the game which is not the case. Like I mentioned earlier, I go out of my way to be nice and supportive to people. I give people compliments, I do my best to be sociable. I even danced for a bunch of lalafels in Limsa a couple days ago. I'm really one of the nicest people you'll meet. The assumption a lot of people on these forums seem to have that I deserved this for being a bad person is kind of infuriating. I've been gaming online since the 90's and never once have I had to deal with something like this.
Just be a halfway decent human in game, and you won't get warned/banned/etc.
I know that it feels like that's asking a lot, but I promise you that it really isn't. We can all do it—I believe in us.
I got smacked with a suspension on here because I told someone that nobody gives a flying F about their ultimate clears....that was the only time I've had that happen. Never received a warning in game, mostly because I don't talk much other than the odd quip about something, or direct messaging/LS/FC chat with very few people.
Because people lie all the time about being innocent, that or they don't realize how harsh they act around others in a way that can result in a harassment ticket being filed. The poster in question almost certainly said something to warrant it, but feels like thats just Tuesday to them maybe. Think back the past week or two on any negative interactions with players and try to determine what you might have said. These tickets are rarely baseless.
It's not necessarily you having a negative interaction with someone. You might have been joking around with a friend in /say and a passing player might have taken offense at what was said because they lacked context.
Warnings are just that - a warning ("please remember that there are other players present and be careful about language choice"). If the GMs had felt you said something inappropriate with ill intent, I doubt it would have been just a warning. If this was the only time you've been contacted by GMs over something said/done, it's not worth the worry.
The thing is as the rules are written it doesn't matter if you think you are being negative in interactions with others in the game. All that matters is did some other person feel you were having a negative interaction with someone and feel it enough to report.
This is why I won't join a FC that I or my best friend don't own and control who is in. I have a very dry and sarcastic sense of humor that could easily offend someone. Better to keep to myself and a select few others.
You can get banned - or could - for slander on here, for being direct with someone. It's why I always word everything with "seems", etc.. I don't talk in reality like a lot of my forum posts. I heavily edit just about every single one, or go back over something before posting to make sure something isn't accusatory in an argument, for example. Some users used to get banned for "profanity" for using curse words on the forum too.
The problem with ToS enforcement, to me, is it seems to vary so wildly, you never really know what's safe or not, so I take the better safe than sorry route. Still got a warning in-game though.
I will never understand how or why profanity is even forbidden by the ToS when there is an optional profanity filter in the game options and multiple NPCs in the game curse and some of it is even voice acted. Double standards if you ask me. Too many easily offended little babies in this community and a lot of the moderation seems to be selective.
This is bad logic. Single-player MMOs defeat the purpose of MMOs. It's the punitive system of this game that needs to change or be more efficient at pointing out irregularities. Some people have reported infamous people and nothing happens, but other people are experts at misconstruing situations, and those are the reports that go through because all the buzzwords tick the boxes.