The Image of FFXIV

Am I the only one getting vibes of how to get Skultrite from the belly of a weblum video from this? All it is missing is Coran from the Netflix Voltron. LOLOLOL

So much drama over animations and tutorials. Grow up!

The english guide teaches you how to be a bad player while the jp guide teaches you how to be a good player, can't say i'm surprised, I also have low expectations from NA.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

To briefly touch on the video series, I think it is important to consider that the players of FFXIV are of a mostly adult or late teen audience.

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not true judging from this thread

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

This is such a non-issue that begs to be explained why even bother making a thread about it. Like honestly, who cares?

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Apparently you. Seriously, if its such a non-issue and the thread is thus pointless, why are you here exactly?

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

But that's not going to happen. I mean there's some pretty mature topics being discussed in-game, they can't really go any lower than 16.

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You'd think that but with how much the new videos look like children's cartoons I wouldn't put it past them to cut certain mature topics out of the story if they feel they can succeed in getting that younger audience. They've already proven that they are willing to cut out parts of the story that are 'unnecessary' if they feel it will help the game in 5.3.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

So it just makes me more curious as to who they're trying to target with this. I'm pretty sure I'm part of the youngest generation on FF14 and I don't feel like it's targeting me...

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It's targeted towards children and adults who are mentally children. That's why a lot of the information in it is so obvious only a child wouldn't understand it.

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Originally Posted by Raim

I just think its funny how they released these goofy cartoons in every language but Japanese. But if you check the channel they released a completely separate series of Japanese text-only guides that strictly cover gameplay mechanics. Feels kind of like they're treating the western audience like kids or idiots.

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Japanese companies have always treated westerners like stupid children. I mean, look at some of the stuff Nintendo does in their games. They literally released an entirely different version of Super Mario Bros. 2 in the west because it was 'too hard for westerners'. Both Nintendo and SE always treat Japanese people as adults and anyone outside of Japan like mentally handicapped children who need to be slowly hand held through the entire game.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Matters such as this one concern me because I would like for new players and those outside the fanbase to perceive the game in a more positive light.

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Good luck with that now. I sure hope my friends who don't play FFXIV don't see this video because this is going to kill the image of the game for anyone who is above the age of 7.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Um sir, I'm sorry to inform you who has over nine thousand post count that these are discussion boards and that they're here for people to discuss things.

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Yes. You are indeed correct. And Theodric is responding to someone who is trying to shut down that discussion by painting the thread as worthless. Thus you are disagreeing with someone who is supporting the same thing you are.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Not sure what my post count has to do with it, though. I didn't even notice it had passed the 9000 mark. Nice, I guess.

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It's an excuse for why you're apparently shutting down discussion. They chose this one because there's literally no actual proof that you're shutting down discussion.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I’m not sure if people who have never played a video game before should be the audience this game targets with its tutorials videos. Instead they have claimed to want more people who like single player titles to try out FFXIV. As one of those people, if you showed me a video like these ones I wouldn’t have a very good view of the game and likely choose another title over it. Please respect this audience more.

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The dev team has made it clear that they're more interested in getting new people into the game than keeping the older ones. Thus its ironic that they're so out of touch that they made these videos that are only going to chase new people away.

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Originally Posted by Lunalepsy

So much drama over animations and tutorials. Grow up!

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Oh no! God forbid people discuss videos produced by SE! Such horrid drama! How dare these people DARE to have an opinion. Grow up.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

It’s the basic ABCs of being a player in an MMO: Always Be Complaining.

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ah I see, I never knew thats what that was lol

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

A continuous stream of feedback and dialogue is important for this game to be able to gauge people’s responses and reception to the various things it puts out into the world. Matters such as this one concern me because I would like for new players and those outside the fanbase to perceive the game in a more positive light. However, I don’t think that the way in which these guides were created appeals to those it’s intended to reach.

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now who's gatekeeping?

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Fresh blood is always good, and there is a huge part of the gaming community who are daunted by MMOs due to the toxic reputation of online play. While I am not much into the millenial-kiddy style of the videos they do have some solid information in them once you get past the #0 of them.

https://i.gyazo.com/323cbea25f0a62b9...b9fef748c2.jpg

It's weird there is a UK version and USA version that are exactly the same. Are USA people that offended to click on a video with a UK flag?

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I'm sorry did you say I have to click on the non-freedom version? Fwaaah.. Sickness must be purged!

I will pay my increased health care costs for lesser results thank you very much!!! FRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMM YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAH!

;)

The intro art was a bit.... different... Perhaps they thought all of us older folks don't need help getting into the game mechanics, even if the DF begs to differ lol. At least it looks like a lot of effort was put in, I don't feel they were cheaply made.

Could be what people are saying, but in the minds of marketing, a good thing- targeting an audience they feel they're not currently tapping.

I do appreciate such things even exist, though I hope they're trying to support best habits as they go too.. I did hear on reddit about the US healer guide not really talking about DPS lol. Haven't reached it myself yet, slap me if it's poor hearsay.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Apparently you. Seriously, if its such a non-issue and the thread is thus pointless, why are you here exactly?

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Hey If Aveyond-Dreams can constantly nitpick and complain about every single little itty bitty thing about FFXIV that would make the average Karen put their heads down in shame, then I'm allowed to do the same with every one of these posts and threads he/she makes.

You have to understand that I speak from the perspective of someone who wants FFXIV to succeed and be the best version of itself possible. If I see things that give me pause, such as these videos, I will call attention to it. I think that SE can and should do better.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

You have to understand that I speak from the perspective of someone who wants FFXIV to succeed and be the best version of itself possible. If I see things that give me pause, such as these videos, I will call attention to it. I think that SE can and should do better.

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Newsflash, you're not the only one. Im pretty sure everyone of us wants to see this game improve and grow for the better. It just so happens that a lot of your takes and ideas just happen to be off the mark imo.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Hey If Aveyond-Dreams can constantly nitpick and complain about every single little itty bitty thing about FFXIV that would make the average Karen put their heads down in shame, then I'm allowed to do the same with every one of these posts and threads he/she makes.

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Ok so even if I assume that Aveyond is being a massive Karen when he complains, (he's not, give his most recent comment a read, or a re-read if you need to) you posting on his threads literally defeats the purpose of claiming the thread is worthless. If the thread is truly is so worthless, ignore it and let it fester and die instead of feeding it fuel to grow. Fire doesn't burn without fuel.

Unless you actually think the thread is in fact NOT worthless and thus will have actual discussion take place there. Then you would have a reason to show up and talk about it. However, then the thread wouldn't be worthless as there would be a conversation occurring there. Do you see how contradictory your presence here is?

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Ok so even if I assume that Aveyond is being a massive Karen when he complains, (he's not, give his most recent comment a read, or a re-read if you need to) you posting on his threads literally defeats the purpose of claiming the thread is worthless. If the thread is truly is so worthless, ignore it and let it fester and die instead of feeding it fuel to grow. Fire doesn't burn without fuel.

Unless you actually think the thread is in fact NOT worthless and thus will have actual discussion take place there. Then you would have a reason to show up and talk about it. However, then the thread wouldn't be worthless as there would be a conversation occurring there. Do you see how contradictory your presence here is?

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The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make. How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother. Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information. But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer. Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down. Again I say, who honestly cares. How about we discuss more important things tham the oh noes our precious "image".

The image that FFXIV portrays does matter. I think it would be a good thing for FFXIV to try to make itself look more serious in wake of things like these videos and that billboard situation. I would like to think that the focus on the Void and Lahabrea in 6.2 will help with that, but a lot of recent events both in and out of the game have shaken my confidence and that of others. If you would like to discuss one of many different topics or issues, then nothing is stopping you from creating a thread to discuss those.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

The image that FFXIV portrays does matter. I think it would be a good thing for FFXIV to try to make itself look more serious in wake of things like these videos and that billboard situation. I would like to think that the focus on the Void and Lahabrea in 6.2 will help with that, but a lot of recent events both in and out of the game have shaken my confidence and that of others. If you would like to discuss one of many different topics or issues, then nothing is stopping you from creating a thread to discuss those.

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Believe me, the image of FFXIV is the LAST of this game's worries. Theres other problems to deal with rather than wasting our time with this.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Ah yes, I am on copium for wishing that SE created their marketing to target their audience

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Spending money marketing FFXIV to people who even just read this forum is a waste of money: those people already know more than enough about the game to decide whether to play it or not, and most of them already do. And that's especially true when the marketing is an intro tutorial.

TL;DR: SE's Marketing, as they should, mainly targets people who are not yet paying a subscription.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

The more you try to talk in circles about a statement I said, the less of a point you actually make.

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My point has been consistent. If you think the thread is worthless, why are you here? At least my point isn't defeated by my very presence.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

How about stop focusing on what I said about aveyond.

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If you didn't want people focusing on that, why'd you say it?

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

and actually think about whats the point behind this thread? The whole argument behind this thread is that some small official video-starter guides look "too kiddish" and that they need to appeal to late teens or adults.

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The point of the thread is to discuss the kiddish art styles used in the official guides put out by SE and how it's made for the wrong target audience. You seem to understand the point of the thread quite well. If you want to discuss this point, you are free to. However, painting the thread as pointless isn't discussing things, it's trying to shut down a discussion you don't like.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

For one, the video is so safe and meaningless for the average player who understands MMOs or FFXIV shouldnt even care or bother.

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Cool. It still exists. Thus we can talk about it.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Two, if this was about that the video series should be more in-depth like what other content creators have been doing for starter guides then yeah, I agree it should emulate to give out more information.

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If you are interested in this discussion and do not see a thread discussing it, you are free to make that thread.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

But Aveyond is instead talking about the "image" of the videos as if that actually matters to the average viewer.

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And you know this how exactly? Everything they've said seems to counter this point.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Its not as if this game already has its preconveived notions of being a "lolweeb game" by some of the hardcore mmo veterans whom havent touched FFXIV so them doing this safe, corporate style video isnt gonna really drive the numbers down.

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Right, the hardcore MMO players already don't want to play the game, so let's drive away the midcore and semi-serious players too.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Again I say, who honestly cares.

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You do. You're commenting in the thread. You obviously care about the topic to some extent.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

How about we discuss more important things that the oh noes our precious "image".

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Sure. Go make that thread. If people are interested, they'll drop in and talk about it.

you know, you could just have compiled all of that into one reply post rather than making this obsessive looking cringey counter point to almost every single statement I made. Again you keep focusing on attacking me personally rather than debate or discuss the actual topic that was presented in this thread.

It's always fascinating when someone comes into a thread specifically intending to harass, insult and stalk a particular individual only to get a bit of light pushback and declare that they, themselves, are the one being 'harassed'.

This coming after they swear up and down that they don't care about expend multiple posts within a relatively short period of time certainly allows people to come to some interesting conclusions, I think.

We agree with the lackluster story writers guild. It is clear that the TV add maker is also the man who write the wrong translate story into the Japanese from the German. The Yoshi should make the Maehiro writing the grit TV add like the Game of the Thrones or the Heavensward. I do not understand why Lopprit chara Mayra in vid is surviving to the end but the No Shadow God is kill by the Venar genocide. Is because of bias towards the hero chara and theme focus on the slice of the life anime. If Maehiro writing the vid then Mayra would dye at the 1:00 mark instead of eating the burger with they friends.

It is clear now that the lackluster guild must rewrite the TV add and resubmit to correct the story course. We nominate the Madge King of All Amigos to be in charge of new add story because the Garlemald story rewrite is working to the Ayybeyond and I will rewriting the Hildabrand story to fix relic.

Please believe we will make all right with story again.

I was pleasantly surprised by the videos. They are spot on for describing the leveling and gameplay experience for the first 20 levels of the game to someone who is either new to video games in general or MMORPGs in particular. I'd pass along the link to friends who haven't touched a video game since college when video games as a genre of entertainment were only starting to take off in the mid '80s. Meanwhile, most of my high-school friends are already grandparents.

They are not tutorials for current players. They are not tutorials for players who are coming into the game who already have experience playing another MMORPG. They are a marketing tool. The sooner folks realize that an introduction to the basics for a game they have never played is something new players will find useful, the better.

For experienced or current players ... the only true guides and videos out there are mostly

* massively outdated
* aimed at a hard-core player audience
* mostly blank when it comes to discussing the 1-90 player experience

That last includes discussions of mechanics, instances, using the market board effectively to purchase (not sell) something, and the best of the non-max-level rotations.

It took me 5 years to get to the point where I could play Black Mage with any specific level of expertise past ARR. The tools and rotations kept changing every expansion and 'guides' stuck to how to play your best at max-level in raids. I really don't need a string of icons showing the 2-minute opener for a job at end game as "here's the rotation, but only until the next expansion comes out. Don't use it at lower levels, because most of the stuff we discuss requires you to get to 70 first"

I have yet to see a content creator discuss the best means of leveling from 1 to 50, for instance. I include sites such as icy-veins, which looks more and more like wowhead every day. Most of the people who visit these forums have already "been there-done that-threw away the T-shirt".

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

you know, you could just have compiled all of that into one reply post

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Didn't feel like it. Don't feel like it now.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Again you keep focusing on attacking me personally rather than debate or discuss the actual topic that was presented in this thread.

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Would you like to point out where this occurred? All I have done is ask why you bothered posting if you think the thread is so unworthy of people caring. An opinion you made known here:

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

This is such a non-issue that begs to be explained why even bother making a thread about it. Like honestly, who cares?

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You haven't been personally attacked. I have not attacked you. If I have done ANY attacking (I haven't) it was to your actions and words. All I've done is expose that you're only here to disrupt the discussion going on in this thread.

If you would like a different discussion to take place, as I said in my last post, you are more than free to go make your own thread about whatever you like. If you want a thread that praises the new videos as amazing, you may make that thread. Now if people show up and disagree, disagreement is the cost of making a thread and thus opening a discussion. But don't come into this thread and insult both the topic and the thread creator, then pretend like you're being attacked once what you're doing has been revealed.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's always fascinating when someone comes into a thread specifically intending to harass, insult and stalk a particular individual only to get a bit of light pushback and declare that they, themselves, are the one being 'harassed'.

This coming after they swear up and down that they don't care about expend multiple posts within a relatively short period of time certainly allows people to come to some interesting conclusions, I think.

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It's because they DO care, just not in the same way we do. We want discussion and open discourse. They want to shut it down because it goes against their narrative that everything's fine. Of course, once they're exposed for doing this, they sense an attack upon their narrative, and seeing as they've made their narrative so integral to their being, they perceive it as an attack on themselves.

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To briefly touch on the video series, I think it is important to consider that the players of FFXIV are of a mostly adult or late teen audience

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Funny, thats not what you said here

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While I admittedly haven't had the time to read each post in this thread, I just wanted to chime in and say that I'm not sure that making MSQ content easier in order to not exclude older players is a good thing. Why would someone in their late teens or early 20s want to play a game that was also designed to accommodate for the reaction times of someone significantly older? I do think that having a set target demographic in terms of age is a good thing, especially in terms of difficulty level.

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The Brits are still salty that the Americans whooped them in the Revolutionary War and came to save their butts in not one but both world wars. lel

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There are a thousand things I could say to this...but Ill save the history lesson for another day.

After finally watching all 6 episodes (or 7 if you count the intro), I realized that the animation and to some degree the voice acting reminded me very much of Disney animated movies from the 1990s and 2000s. I wonder if they brought in some old (or even current) Disney employees as consultants.

It taught me only ninjas should use limit breaks and mentors like to spoil the story for new players. (yeah, those sections could have been done better)

It's decent for a first effort as a starter's guide but definitely could use some touch ups to better explain some things (like the limit break).

It's also targeted at free trial players. They should add an episode for paid players that talk about things like free companies, linkshells and retainers.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

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Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

There are a thousand things I could say to this...but Ill save the history lesson for another day.

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your country lost a war against emus

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your country lost a war against emus

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We shall fight them on the beaches
We shall fight them for sandwiches
We will never surrender....

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

your country lost a war against emus

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All I'm saying is that if those emus rolled up to 'Murica, they'd be tonight's dinner.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

IIRC, they released a completely different, more straight-to-the-point and actually more in-depth series of guide videos specifically for Japan that doesn't use this animation style at all.

....So....

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Have a link to it by any chance? I'd be curious to watch it even if I can't understand what's being said. I tried checking the first couple pages of the JP Lodestone topics but I couldn't find anything that seems to be related.

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By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

Generic AoE/Markers
Pt.1
Pt.2

DPS

Healers

Tanks

Buffs and Debuffs

Limit Breaks

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

We shall fight them on the beaches
We shall fight them for sandwiches
We will never surrender....

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Pesky things too! When I was a wee lil tyke we were in the car with my Gran at Healesville and one waked up brave as usual and poked it's head into the car window to steal her bag of chips. I will never forget her shreak - and how hard we laughed.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

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From quickly watching through those videos and using Google translate on descriptions, they're not the same thing. They're more like a video Hall of the Novice going over topics related only to party content (coordinating attacks, dodging mechanics, buffs and debuffs, etc). They looked like tutorials intended for those who already started the game and are just getting into party content, not new players looking for general tips about the new player experience.

The starter guide in English, French and German definitely come across as more of a marketing tool than a detailed tutorial.

Going back through their video lists for the past several months, everything else seems to be the usual patch trailers, live letters, Primals videos, etc. I can't find other videos that seems to be related to new player guides.

Maybe there is some other starter guide for JP or maybe they haven't released the JP version of this starter guide yet?

If I were to guess what they're trying to do, they created the starters guide in the western languages as a marketing tool to try to draw in new players to help populate the new OCE and EU worlds, and what would have been new NA worlds this month if that hadn't ended up delayed until November.

The party guides released in JP may still end up released later for the other regions once localization is completed. There was no voice dialog - all information in those videos was captioned so it shouldn't be a difficult to change the captions to the correct localization by region. Certainly they seemed a good visual aid for players that would be useful if they did add localization.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

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I've also included other parts of the videos in my edited post, but you are right about one thing. It's more of a marketing tool than anything else. There wasn't any of similar videos (as far as I can see) uploaded in JP.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

By any chance, you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXdZckA0Qs
I only bothered to look up the healer’s part at the moment but they’ve clearly uploaded the other parts 3 days ago at the time I wrote this reply so it shouldn’t be too far to scroll down their video list.

EDIT: Nvm, finally got back to my laptop so I can easily edit my post to include the rest:

Generic AoE/Markers
Pt.1
Pt.2

DPS

Healers

Tanks

Buffs and Debuffs

Limit Breaks

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I love how the guide is way better than other language, especially that "refresh DoT when it's 3-5 seconds left"

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Pesky things too! When I was a wee lil tyke we were in the car with my Gran at Healesville and one waked up brave as usual and poked it's head into the car window to steal her bag of chips. I will never forget her shreak - and how hard we laughed.

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Look at it this way Shibi..we have a perfect weapon if we ever do go to war with the emus.

We can disguise ourselves using an emu-lator.









I'll just see myself out....

I watched them all. Only thing that bugged me was how the catboy said Ifrit.

I think with the idea in mind that they're probably aimed at those with little to no gaming and/or MMO experience, they're very helpful and informative guides. They've got some charm and humor to them, which makes watching them fun. I don't know being adult or late teen means that someone can't enjoy the animated visuals or the cheerful atmosphere. They seem to me that they would be an effective marketing tool. They really don't seem to be intended to go in depth, just be something that someone can use to get their feet under them.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

You have to understand that I speak from the perspective of someone who wants FFXIV to succeed and be the best version of itself possible. If I see things that give me pause, such as these videos, I will call attention to it. I think that SE can and should do better.

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and of course you are the one and true arbiter of what is deemed "best". even more so than the devs it seems with your inflated ego.

Honestly the whole thing looks like the videos they show you at work when you're first hired. They're corny/cheesy- somewhat silly and also kinda stupid. But it gets the point across (somewhat). My only complaint about the videos is that they need to remove the blue quests from specific things and categorize them with the story (like the dungeon quests for side dungeons needing to be in the same pile of blue quests as say hildiband)

Actually really cringeworthy videos. Getting to the point where I'd be ashamed to tell someone I play this game.

So they spent their increased budget on useless projects like this, and soulless corporate art style at that too? Sigh.

If they wanted to appeal to potential new customers or new players, maybe instead they could have commissioned some famous or proven/legendary JP artists and key animators, to create some short stories for each job in the game, to appeal to both new and old players, and more importantly allure for potential players, as it would be short animation at some peak appeal for each job style and potential an interesting take of the FF14 jobs with some exciting art, which could end up as secondary for concepting possible future gear/glam.
But it seems SE is hellbent on removing anything exciting and appealing from their games/products, as of late.

Also making such guide videos more or less just proves that the problem lies in the beginning of the game. Maybe they should improve to make more exciting, instead of wasting precious budget on such videos, like maybe hire additional developers to refine the beginning, and perhaps also to staff more developers for certain jobs and roles too? The game doesn't need a bigger budget for its marketing but for its content creation and quality of life improvements, aka hire more developers to properly staff each segment of important content pipeline. And maybe also quality assurance, like having a second look at their stories, before releasing a heap of a plot hole riddled mess of a story. Or making sure their upcoming job changes aren't tone-deaf beyond measure.

This has only made me doubt the future for this game even more. Not that SE hadn't already done plenty of that as of late.

They look rather hideous to me, but I'm not fond of this art style from the outset and if this was my first impression of the game, coupled with ARR in general, I'd probably go find something else. They've done some nifty looking anime short piece in the past, which looked way better. Doubt these guides will accomplish what tools like HotN, various well written guides etc. have thus far failed to accomplish. You can lead a horse to water, only this one might kick you in the face for trying to help it. It's down to the incentive structure the game itself creates/imposes.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

Actually really cringeworthy videos. Getting to the point where I'd be ashamed to tell someone I play this game.

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You and I both, brother.