For the past 5 days, my chat has been filled with nothing but smacktalk

Lol sounds like fun. Wish I was a part of it.

Yes it's normal.

For your data center.

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Meanwhile WARs turned their lounge in The Balance into cat pic posting channel.

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What can I say Warriors are wholesome people. :)

It's like any MMO social situation tied to performance. If an individual in the space makes waves, one way or the other, people will focus on it. This has always been in XIV. Hell, you find it on this very forum too. I can't remember their name, but some Ultimate raider was trying to shame me using FFlogs here by pointing out I had like 200 less Savage parses than them and no Ultimate ones etc. As if the excessive runs they did specifically to upload parses had any bearing against my milquetoast weekly clears, uploaded by someone not me, in terms of a pissing context lol(it was like my 400 to their 620 or something like that).

Competition brings out the worst in people, but it's also the only reason a lot of people play. It's great for individual performance, but causes a lot of inconsistencies for all the runs they don't/won't upload.

But there's also a lot of assholes in the PF, who will join static groups 7/8 and try to talk down to the static and command them to do the fight catering to them. When that happens, of course you're gonna see a group verbal lashing beatdown on the PUG individual.

When you have a group member responsible for very specific portions of a fight not doing as much as the rest of the group, of course you're gonna bad mouth them. Especially if they've been given a couple dozen chances at doing it right. Especially if it's something simple like, "Please use Seraph, like, at all." or "Please save an indom charge for that." etc.

No one is made of patience unending. Leaving frustrations unexpressed is unhealthy.

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It's like any MMO social situation tied to performance. If an individual in the space makes waves, one way or the other, people will focus on it. This has always been in XIV. Hell, you find it on this very forum too. I can't remember their name, but some Ultimate raider was trying to shame me using FFlogs here by pointing out I had like 200 less Savage parses than them and no Ultimate ones etc. As if the excessive runs they did specifically to upload parses had any bearing against my milquetoast weekly clears, uploaded by someone not me, in terms of a pissing context lol(it was like my 400 to their 620 or something like that).

Competition brings out the worst in people, but it's also the only reason a lot of people play. It's great for individual performance, but causes a lot of inconsistencies for all the runs they don't/won't upload.

But there's also a lot of assholes in the PF, who will join static groups 7/8 and try to talk down to the static and command them to do the fight catering to them. When that happens, of course you're gonna see a group verbal lashing beatdown on the PUG individual.

When you have a group member responsible for very specific portions of a fight not doing as much as the rest of the group, of course you're gonna bad mouth them. Especially if they've been given a couple dozen chances at doing it right. Especially if it's something simple like, "Please use Seraph, like, at all." or "Please save an indom charge for that." etc.

No one is made of patience unending. Leaving frustrations unexpressed is unhealthy.

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That's all true and I agree with you, but it nevertheless has no place in FFXIV. Nuke it from orbit... by reporting it.
And SE does go after offenders even outside the game. They banned toxic streamers before, and people badmouthing a player in JP.

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That's all true and I agree with you, but it nevertheless has no place in FFXIV. Nuke it from orbit... by reporting it.
And SE does go after offenders even outside the game. They banned toxic streamers before, and people badmouthing a player in JP.

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Good luck reporting things that are happening on Discord outside of the game. xD

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That's all true and I agree with you, but it nevertheless has no place in FFXIV. Nuke it from orbit... by reporting it.
And SE does go after offenders even outside the game. They banned toxic streamers before, and people badmouthing a player in JP.

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Inb4 someone reports my Discord chatlogs.

Red Mage is spending a lot of time on the floor? Looks like us Dragoons have got some competition. Time to up my game.

There can only be one Floor Tank.

As you can tell from the replies on this thread, 90% normal. Ya. Report anything said directly to you that is abusive the rest, just ignore. Most are kids that want the attention because they cant cuss at home.

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You need to go find better communities. Maybe don't use The Balance as a Discord server reference. lol

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Heh, the people on that discord server are a bunch of bads themselves but you better not tell them that.

Someone is a sociopath for saying another player is performing poorly? Stop being a baby.

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Is this normal for the FFXIV community? I have never seen such sociopathic behavior from any other online community, the amount of vitriol spouted in private channels is beyond reasonable.

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There are people like this in every game. Most people are not but those who are tend to congregate together (likely because no one else will put up with their crap) and their true colours come out when things don't go their way.

I have even seen horrific toxicity in the Animal Crossing community. No gaming community is free of selfish bullies.

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Someone is a sociopath for saying another player is performing poorly? Stop being a baby.

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Huge difference between commenting on someone's performance and wanting to shame them so much you would go as far as to openly and strongly criticise unrelated things such as their character's race and gender as if it's some sort of contribution to their performance. The latter isn't a statement of fact, it's the act of enjoying being awful.