Minion drop rates are horrible

I was lucky enough to get my Shaggles minion, that minion alone shall never leave my side, I have no need for other inferior minions.
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Originally Posted by Ultaniku

I still haven’t even seen the 90 story minion drop. I’m beginning to lose faith that it actually can drop. Mostly said in jest, but I’ve run that dungeon so many times. Like sooooo many.

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I'm one of the lucky ones who had that minion drop my first run when I was doing the dungeon for MSQ with Trust.

I'd highly recommend using Trust to farm for the dungeon minions since you won't have to roll against others also trying to get the minion when it drops. It has a chance to drop whether you're using Scenario or Avatar mode (go Avatar if you want to level your Trust for achievement and title). Earlier in the thread I had mentioned I didn't have the Tiny Troll yet but I did get it 4-5 days later after running the dungeon with Trust in Scenario mode 2-3 times each day.

I haven't seen a single minion from the EW dungeons drop.
I didn't even know they existed until recently, tbh.

But like all things, they come with time.

*opens my 200th 4.0 lockbox with seals*
*gets another mithra minion*
*no new mount at all*
Let me tell you about minion drop rates...

This reminds me of how I had to run Wanderer's Palace (Hard) about 30+ times just to get a Caster top.

I inly use trusts, and I've run the 90 story dungeon only once since I've been leveling all of my classes. When I was running the 89 dungeon, I got the troll. I'm like 'Yay!'.

The I get the message that I can't acquire it because I already have it.

Oh.

I had forgotten I had it, and I couldn't even sell the duplicate.

I feel like no matter whether we're running trusts or not, the drop rates should not be this horrendous... I've run dead ends more than 50 times since late December, spread about equally between trusts and duty finder, and I've not seen it drop even once.

Meanwhile, it seems like everyone and their mum has it at this point, while I've seen Caduceus only once, and the 83 dungeon minion at least four times, saying nothing of trying to farm gear sets (I've had at least one Endwalker set that I got almost entirely from guaranteed drops because it just wasn't otherwise)

Rare drops are rare for a reason, and the minions are supposed to be just that. Want to get one faster? Go to the market board. The rest of us will continue to farm and post them at exorbitant prices so that the lazy (or just people that don't have enough time on their hands, which is totally understandable in today's world) can keep filling our coffers with gil.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Ohhh.. sell the minions.. Yeah.. nobody wants these. The prices tanked like hell on my server.

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I've made about 100k so far on Garlic Jester's (sold about 5) from the loot boxes over the coarse of a couple of weeks. Nothing that changes the tides, but I was surprised that these guys and the other garden minions still sell pretty regularly. They probably need to stay out of kitchens xD

As for Starbird, I don't have her, but have only run The Dead Ends maybe 4-5 times since the initial run. It comes up in roulette more often than not right now, so I don't bother farming it. If I get it, I get it.

I never got Shoebill either, and I actually really want that one. The mount from Ala Mhigo I had to buy with moogle tomes to finally get as I never even saw the key drop, let alone got a chance to roll on it. I'm fine with the RNG for things like minions and mounts, but can understand if there are certain minions a player will want to fit with their character's overall aesthetic.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Rare drops are rare for a reason, and the minions are supposed to be just that. Want to get one faster? Go to the market board. The rest of us will continue to farm and post them at exorbitant prices so that the lazy (or just people that don't have enough time on their hands, which is totally understandable in today's world) can keep filling our coffers with gil.

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Ktisis and Dead Ends' minions are non-tradeable. I would have happily bought the starbird otherwise lol

All these people trying to get Starbirds when the true – and far cuter – Shoebill-equivalent is the Adventurous Ambystoma, which you can get off the marketboard (as the axolotl eft) cheap. I've had it for ages just because it was cute, and I bought one for my alt the other day for all of 200 gil.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Rare drops are rare for a reason, and the minions are supposed to be just that. Want to get one faster? Go to the market board. The rest of us will continue to farm and post them at exorbitant prices so that the lazy (or just people that don't have enough time on their hands, which is totally understandable in today's world) can keep filling our coffers with gil.

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Sell me Caduceus please, I'd gladly pay you 1-2 mil gil for it <3

IMO, the drop rates should be significantly boosted for the 87, 89, and 90 MSQ dungeon minions, by virtue of their being untradeable.

IMO drop rates are "fine" but dungeons need a "bad luck charm", like raids and EX.
Some people run dungeons dozens/hundreds of time for a minion, some for a specific gear piece.
That's ridiculous.

As someone who ran the Aery 70+ times for a single weapon (and also didn't see the minion drop a single time) I agree with this.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

As someone who ran the Aery 70+ times for a single weapon (and also didn't see the minion drop a single time) I agree with this.

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I believe your story is something that happened long time ago, but I’m genuinely curious how did it took 70+ times for you when Aery being a leveling dungeon means it will guarantee one drop equippable to your chosen job? So long as the player do not trash away their loots they will eventually get their loot within 10 runs (or 11 if it’s pre EW era).

Minions happen when they happen but cards? Oh, they'll drop when you are worthy of receiving it. So far, I'm not worthy :(

I've literally run the dungeon in DF since Endwalker dropped and have yet to even SEE it as a drop option, let alone be able to roll on it.

It's been 14 months SE.

Hell there's some dungeons I've run Unsynced for relic grinds over 200 times and have never seen THEIR minions.

Enough is Enough.

Dec 2023 update: I stopped counting the DF instances after 600-ish, but it's now 2 years and no Starbird as a loot option in sight. REALLY, SE? REALLY?

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I believe your story is something that happened long time ago, but I’m genuinely curious how did it took 70+ times for you when Aery being a leveling dungeon means it will guarantee one drop equippable to your chosen job? So long as the player do not trash away their loots they will eventually get their loot within 10 runs (or 11 if it’s pre EW era).

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I’ve been playing since ARR 2.0 and I don’t believe guaranteed drops were a thing in the beginning. I can’t remember when they added guaranteed drops, so they most likely are referring to when this wasn’t a thing. I read someone mentioned it happened during Stormblood, but I can’t confirm that, but if that’s the case, then their 70+ run might’ve happened during Heavensward when The Aery dungeon was introduced.

I try to get the Tiny Troll and if I have to see Amon any longer, I'm gonna rage. Gosh I hate that Dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

*opens my 200th 4.0 lockbox with seals*
*gets another mithra minion*
*no new mount at all*
Let me tell you about minion drop rates...

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haven't logged in in years but literally had to log in to say yikes another fellow multi-hundred 4.0 box buyer with no mount, /laliho :p absolutely miserable lol, spoke with someone in a hunt yesterday that had 72 control X materia break in 1 shot with that "10% chance", uhhhhh last time i checked that's not 10%, my record is 37 broken in one single meld attempt, also not 10%, i've had 3-4 materia NOT break when pulling off over 50 TWICE now.... that is NOT 40%, my shadowless maiming chest from Hero's Gauntlet was 73 runs with the trust,
my infuriating but beloved awful-to-acquire clionid larva was freaking 84 runs solo unsynced and then ran it another 20 to help a friend get his, still have NEVER EVER seen The Ancient One drop after hmmm i will say about 60ish i stopped counting after 50 runs.
for one of my worst ones, my nightmare mount... oh boy... i got myself, and 9 other people ALL of their horses and kirin mounts and then another like 6 months of doing my WT's weekly before i finally got it from a shiva and nearly fell out of my chair :eek: that was HUNDREDS of runs, literally HUNDREDS because multiple of those people took 30+ garudas to get their xanthos -.-
i swear when i created my character yoshi.p personally stopped the creation process and put a like -50% to all RNG rolls on it at this point lmaooo the actual king of awful RNG

Thancred keeps taking all of OP's minion drops.

In my experience, you need to stop trying to get the minion, then it will drop on your next run of the dungeon via roulette or something.

The desire sensor is not to be trifled with

Don't forget to die at least a couple of times too. Legend says each deaths raises your odds to win big money loots.

#justRNGthings

When Endwalker first dropped, I was running the Dead Ends maybe 5-10 times a day depending on how fast queues were going, and nothing. It has been SO LONG and I am *still* running this thing at MINIMUM once a day, most of the time 2 or 3, and I have yet to even see it drop once. I don't even want the bird cause it's cute anymore, I want it so I can stop huffing copium. That's too many runs to count. At LEAST let someone sell it on the mb so I can stop living this nightmare ;-;

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Originally Posted by Pat00tSack

When Endwalker first dropped, I was running the Dead Ends maybe 5-10 times a day depending on how fast queues were going, and nothing. It has been SO LONG and I am *still* running this thing at MINIMUM once a day, most of the time 2 or 3, and I have yet to even see it drop once. I don't even want the bird cause it's cute anymore, I want it so I can stop huffing copium. That's too many runs to count. At LEAST let someone sell it on the mb so I can stop living this nightmare ;-;

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Just buy the axolotl minion instead, or wait until we get the bird in a moogle tome event.

Actually, come to think of it, definitely wait until we get the special tenth anniversary moogle tome event.

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Originally Posted by PerrinTaveren

I ran lv87 dungeon for 12 hours non-stop almost to get the minion. I have been running lv89 dungeon for 5 days. 5!!! and didn't see a single minion. I can only imagine lv90 dungeon minion. These are untradeable and unsellable so i am running with trust cause i don't want to roll on these on top of rng. Why make these drops this rare? They are untradeable and any collector with a logical mind will farm these with trusts since they are UNTRADEABLE! why are these so rare? Just why? Did dev team really think we would run these dungeons with DF and expect to get a high roll? I levelled all my trust to 90, ran these dungeons 30ish times each, not a single drop.

Yes this is a rant post.

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Whether it's minions or orchestrions rolls, it's all the same, Murphy's Law of maximum annoyance.

You don't want it, it just happens.

In the end, I've got into the habit of buying them from the MB, then if I loot them, I sell them.