Patch 6.05 Notes

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

What a disappointment this "balance patch" turned out to be. PLD didn't get a potency increase on anything, DRK didn't get any help with it's mitigation, WAR didn't get nerfed in it's self sustain, RPR didn't get touched at all except for a joke of a nerf to a heal potency from 100 to 50 when it should have been nerfed into the ground.

What the fuck is balance team doing? The most obvious changes were completely ignored. Now we have to wait till 6.1 to see any meaningful changes? What a fucking joke.

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If we're lucky, we might see some emergency fixes after the first week or two of savage if there's enough complaints and a big enough disparity in class usage.

No adjustments to Healers at all.

Guess I'll just stick with my MNK.

Glad Reaper was mostly untouched. Expected potency nerfs.

Probably next patch will see Healer/Tank changes.

Nerf WAR pls. They will probably just buff their healing instead tho.

An extra 3 yalms on banana would... actually be helpful. Not quite the changes I was hoping for, but it's an unexpected bonus. Probably to help with panda 4 and mom.

Oi look, another garbage robe for healers.
Why the heck casters get the cool coat?

what was the problem with the ninja skill? just know the skill in theorie and it sounded kinda nice

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

If we're lucky, we might see some emergency fixes after the first week or two of savage if there's enough complaints and a big enough disparity in class usage.

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No. After heavensward, SE committed to never changing jobs until a new tier/raid is in progress. So, they might change mid patch cycle if there's no new ultimate and no new savage raid, but obvious that doesn't apply to 6.0x. It might apply to 6.1 if they don't release an ultimate.

Reaper still overpowered, ninja and dancer still trash, as expected, they really don't play their own game.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

what was the problem with the ninja skill? just know the skill in theorie and it sounded kinda nice

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You had to use both raijus back to back before, and with both of them being gap closers it created awkward situations where trying to use raiju would put you in danger of getting hit by mechanics due to both the animation lock and forced movement.

Now you can choose to either use a gap closer raiju if you actually need the movement or one that doesn't move you.

Overall it just frees up NIN's movement a lot and also means you don't have plan your mudra usage around mechanics as much.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

No. After heavensward, SE committed to never changing jobs until a new tier/raid is in progress. So, they might change mid patch cycle if there's no new ultimate and no new savage raid, but obvious that doesn't apply to 6.0x. It might apply to 6.1 if they don't release an ultimate.

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I mean...we already had an emergency hotfix to NIN's potencies in the middle of 5.0 due to it being in a phenomenally awful spot.

They said they wouldn't make significant changes to jobs mid-raid like revamping how a job plays akin to what they did with putting NIN's mudras on the GCD in 5.1.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

You had to use both raijus back to back before, and with both of them being gap closers it meant you were forcing yourself to either lose uptime by not using them or animation lock yourself and force movement in situations where it might not be wanted.

Now you can choose to either use a gap closer raiju if you actually need the movement or one that doesn\\'t move you.

Overall it just frees up NIN\\'s movement a lot.

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thanks for the quick answer :)

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Originally Posted by Nommers

Unbelievable that they didn't address the audio stutter that's been going on since early access, not even as a known issue. Going to wait and see if it got in under "other various issues have also been addressed" but if not I'll be cancelling my sub and seeking a refund for the remaining months I have left.

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I..
Honestly, that issue stopped for me after 6.01. You're still getting it?

Not even going to cry about bloodweapon... (give it charges, maybe someday.) But at least... DRK rrrreally needed a boost to it's overall physical mitigation. It's the worst, when i play all the other tanks, then go back to Drk, it's a bit of an exagerration but i feel like i wear paper with this one. It just became the offtank default to bring damage and that's it.

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Originally Posted by Nommers

Unbelievable that they didn't address the audio stutter that's been going on since early access, not even as a known issue. Going to wait and see if it got in under "other various issues have also been addressed" but if not I'll be cancelling my sub and seeking a refund for the remaining months I have left.

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Yes, if we could just get it into Known Issues then at least that would be something.

Not even a mention of audio issues.
What a fucking joke.
Apparently issue does not exist, along with thousand posts of people suffering from it.

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Originally Posted by Endariel

Oi look, another garbage robe for healers.
Why the heck casters get the cool coat?

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Because casters actually matter and healers don't? =p

I'm sorry, that was uncalled for, totally just joking.

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Originally Posted by Astril

I..
Honestly, that issue stopped for me after 6.01. You're still getting it?

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Yes. 6.01 made it dramatically worse for some people, myself included, and other people who didn't have the bug before suddenly had it after. You're the first person I've seen who said the patch fixed it. There's an 80 page thread in the Technical Support forum that Square has almost completely ignored. You can read more about exactly what's causing the issue here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5788370

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Originally Posted by Nommers

Yes. 6.01 made it dramatically worse for some people, myself included, and other people who didn't have the bug before suddenly had it after. You're the first person I've seen who said the patch fixed it. There's an 80 page thread in the Technical Support forum that Square has almost completely ignored.

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Huh. Interesting. Yeah, during early access all BGM for me would just stop. It didn't stutter, it simply ceased, and only other noises would play (teleports, etc). It's all back to normal now though..

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Originally Posted by Astril

Huh. Interesting. Yeah, during early access all BGM for me would just stop. It didn't stutter, it simply ceased, and only other noises would play (teleports, etc). It's all back to normal now though..

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The issue still ongoing looks to mainly be the horrendous stuttering in the audio. 6.01 did address the issue with audio dropping entirely.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

The issue still ongoing looks to mainly be the horrendous stuttering in the audio. 6.01 did address the issue with audio dropping entirely.

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Mm. Yeah, I don't have any stuttering or 'popping' as that thread describes, it's the first i've even heard of it.

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All of this aside, I've actually been having a harder time healing (during lv 90 dungeons, at least.. though I imagine that will change as people get better gear) so I don't.. feel like healers are in a godawful place? Whats the supposed problem? Er.. Warriors aside, at least. I can die and they just.. keep going.

That aside, I do think DRK could use some form of heal or mitigation - that, or unlink the heal cooldown.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Because casters actually matter and healers don't? =p

I'm sorry, that was uncalled for, totally just joking.

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Well, with tanks and reaper (less now) healing an entire party, you aren't that far off

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Originally Posted by Astril

All of this aside, I've actually been having a harder time healing (during lv 90 dungeons, at least.. though I imagine that will change as people get better gear) so I don't.. feel like healers are in a godawful place? Whats the supposed problem?

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The only problem I see is that DRK has sustain/mitigation issues and therefor is harder to heal. But other than that, you should have smooth runs if tanks and DPS do their job.

The tome gear is basically based on the Radiant Host's NPCs if you noticed their gear (at least the striking one ir maiming) but I like the caster one

Honestly surprised there hasn't been much change on class balance considering everybody kept mentioning about it

Give DRK some aoe self sustain... .-.

Quite sad having to switch tank whenever you want to do dungeons effectively.

No love for dark knights. It is mehh. :(


Cheers

Class changes are meh, tome gear is ugly. I want less heavyarmor for my tanks, instead they keep giving heavy armor for all classes. Eh.
At least some furniture items are nice.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

A joke is what describes the balance team a lot lately. Guess this is what happens when there’s no competition. They can afford to slack off and just do whatever lmao. Really don’t see how they could listen to the constant feedback of healers already not healing a lot and decide to make tanks solo healers and dps more mitigations lmao.

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Where you need heal? In child Extreme? Lmao, first need wait for savage's and see how much healing need to press.

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Originally Posted by Astril

Mm. Yeah, I don't have any stuttering or 'popping' as that thread describes, it's the first i've even heard of it.

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All of this aside, I've actually been having a harder time healing (during lv 90 dungeons, at least.. though I imagine that will change as people get better gear) so I don't.. feel like healers are in a godawful place? Whats the supposed problem? Er.. Warriors aside, at least. I can die and they just.. keep going.

That aside, I do think DRK could use some form of heal or mitigation - that, or unlink the heal cooldown.

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Dungeons are braindead easy to heal now, especially with all of the new tank and dps heals and mitigation. EW leveling dungeons were beyond easy compared to shb leveling dungeons and even just healing the extremes is a cakewalk even though they went on record saying we’d be healing more in endwalker. So not only are we healing less especially because tanks have crazy heals and mitigations but there was nothing addressed in regards to making the dps on healers a little more flavorful.

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Originally Posted by Ashpd

Where you need heal? In child Extreme? Lmao, first need wait for savage's and see how much healing need to press.

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Savage shouldn’t be the only place where healing is somewhat heavy. Compare shb leveling dungeons to endwalker leveling dungeons and it’s night and day. They said we would be needing to heal more period. We haven’t seen that at all yet so it’s a blatant lie. If it’s purely savage that isn’t us healing more, that’s us healing less than in ShB.

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Originally Posted by Ashpd

Where you need heal? In child Extreme? Lmao, first need wait for savage's and see how much healing need to press.

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Anyone expecting savage to require significant healing will be more disappointed than pld and drk mains combined after seeing todays balance changes.

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

The tome gear is basically based on the Radiant Host's NPCs if you noticed their gear (at least the striking one ir maiming) but I like the caster one

Honestly surprised there hasn't been much change on class balance considering everybody kept mentioning about it

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We can only cope for 6.08

Tome gear looks interesting, wonder how it dyes. Glamour gear looks like something a shopkeeper in Gridania would wear XD

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

No. After heavensward, SE committed to never changing jobs until a new tier/raid is in progress. So, they might change mid patch cycle if there's no new ultimate and no new savage raid, but obvious that doesn't apply to 6.0x. It might apply to 6.1 if they don't release an ultimate.

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4.05 and 5.05 were both massive balance patches, released in tandem with those expansions' first savage raids.

I don't know what is in your pipe, but I want what you're smoking.

You left out:
Patch 6.05 - More queues are back...enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Thaurnus

You left out:
Patch 6.05 - More queues are back...enjoy!

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Fellow Omegan! I had 1.7K when I piled in.

They say

"New master recipes have been added."

Has book IX been locked behind the MSQ this time? It wasn't in Rahlgrs Reach like book 8 was.

I don't know why people are mad about Reaper. Someone has to be at the top. :) Surely one heal is not a reason why only MCH/BLM/SAM should always dominate the rankings.

6.1 will obviously feature more Balancing. If not 6.15 or whenever the next Allience Raid comes out

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

6.1 will obviously feature more Balancing. If not 6.15 or whenever the next Allience Raid comes out

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But it was also obvious that WAR needs a nerf and here we are. As a healer I don't even need to be present anymore. This 'balancing' is a slap in the face.

Yeah maybe it’s just me but the job changes are honestly hilarious. They do absolutely nothing to address balance in the game whatsoever lol

Can’t wait for week 1 DNC/RPR healer parties. Do the devs just genuinely not care that an entire role in their game is defunct? Like literally functionless lol.

Also Summoners are literally going to be banned from going into raids by most statics. I mean, it brings literally nothing a Red Mage doesn’t and has way less dps. SMN has ‘mobility’ I guess but lol at the ‘mobility’ argument.

Also maybe I’m wrong but the fact there are 0 healer changes whatsoever besides Fey Union being longer range means White Mage and Astrologian are out and Scholar + Sage is the new meta pair. Astrologian has cards so it can at least argue ‘but muh rDPS’ and then the static healers have to fight to the death, loser takes AST. White Mage may as well be invisible at this point. What exactly is it supposed to offer? Dps? That’s Sage. Raid buffs? Nope, that’s Astrologian. Defensive buffs? Scholar. But it’s ok because Litany of the Bell will clearly make White Mage a top pick for Savage (sarcasm)

The audio stutter from 6.0 has not been fixed and is not even listed as a known issue. Disgusting.