I find the characters in this game really ugly/weird

Lalafells are pretty ugly tbh I wish they replaced it with loli'qotes like Khloe Aliapoh and T'kebbe Morh

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

https://i.imgur.com/M1VeTX7.png
https://i.imgur.com/nzso60u.jpg
Anyone else feel this way? It's got that uncanny valley doll look.

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Plainsfolk Lalafell have those unnatural, cat-like eyes. Dunesfolk Lalafell have more single-color anime-esque eyes that look more natural. Lalafell are also the only race in the game where all of the males faces look good, IMO (though admittedlly there is little variation between them).

4 male races in FFXIV have severe problems. Elezen have unnaturally long necks that requires you to limit yourself to a handful of coats with neckties and high collars. Male Roegadyn don't have any good playabe faces (Gosetsu' face is good but you can't get it yourself), and have unappealing posture. Hrothgar have limited customization and weird posture. Male Viera are a complete "no" to me. And everyone else only have 1 or 2 faces that look decent. Kinda sad coming from WoW, where almost all of the faces look at least decent, if not good, and Blizzard adds new customization options regularly, whereas FFXIV does not.

It also really doesn't help that FFXIV's lighting is rather bad. Most of the time a character is in shadow, or sometimes they will have too much lighting shining on them from a certain direction, bleaching them out. The characters only ever look really good in the few handcrafted cutscenes with lighting, or after spending several minutes in gpose trying to get the lighting right.

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

That said I played WoW for a long time and it doesn't have it nearly as bad, but I did see weird stuff occasionally with the newer models.
https://i.imgur.com/zulpeXD.jpg

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I love WoW's character models. The one gripe I have with them is that their faces were not rigged for ingame close ups shots. It was only until very recently that we finally got an ingame cutscene with a close up shot where the facial acting actually looked decent.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

I don't like WoW's art style and I wish they'd updated their designs back when they did their models, but you have to concede they actually had the guts to give players some unconventional races (... well, the males, at least) to choose from, Draenei, Worgen, Tauren, Trolls etc.

Honestly even FFXI's races got all of their (minimal) weirdness sanded off in the transition to FFXIV: Mithra used to have weird hair patterns, cat noses and etc., Elvaan were even lankier, Galka had tails, that kind of stuff. Makes me really curious how Au Ra would've looked had they been in that game?

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I guess I'm beating a dead horse but yeah, the non-human races of WoW were awesome. Kinda disappointing that every FFXIV race is just another variation of a human.

I personally prefer Lalafell to Tarutaru but the latter's almost "wooden doll" appearance was unique.

I actually find the Tarutaru in FFXI to be cuter than the lalafell we have in FFXIV. However I prefer the facial design of the Miqo'te over the more feline looking faces of the Mithra in FFXI. TBH when it comes to the 3 other races in FFXI and their counterparts here in terms of faces they look the same overall to me aside from the FFXIV side having more detail.

Personally I rarely play a tall character in a game if given a choice because there are few tall character options I find in games that I really like and also tend to not be a real fan of bulky muscular builds either. At the same time I don't often play really short characters (in that 3ft-ish range) in games either unless I find their design and appearance really cute.

New fashion police in the hood.

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

Well I never said other games are immune to the problem either.
That said I played WoW for a long time and it doesn't have it nearly as bad, but I did see weird stuff occasionally with the newer models.
https://i.imgur.com/zulpeXD.jpg



It would not surprise me since there is a lot of graphic variation depending on hardware and I play on mid to low. If there's any settings worth messing with you can let me know.

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Ah ok, so this is a troll thread. If you actually played WoW for more than 2 minutes youd be bombarded with incredibly ugly and terrible models, expressions, lightning, etc. everywhere at all times.

They look like typical animated characters to me.

Have you ever heard of the disorder Prosopagnosia? It causes people to have difficulty perceiving/recognizing faces and facial expressions. A common complaint people with this disorder make is that other faces look 'weird' to them. Perhaps your dislike for in-game faces is an aspect of something like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

To be fair. they went from FFXI which basically just let you chose a total of 8 heads for each race/gender combo as it's entire character creator process at the time to what we have in FFXIV when the game launched. The issue with revamping the character creator in this title in regards to body shape options at least probably isn't the character editor itself but the actual item database of body slot gear items that exists that probably would need to be reformatted or altered to work with new slider options. New face editing options would be nice and likely less work to implement in theory at least but that kind of hinges on how code works in regards to facial expressions and animations. However if they were to at least add new facial options it would most likely cause a very noticeable spike in fantasia sales.

I've never been a huge fan of the character art style of WoW. I get it was derived from unit portraits and sprites from the warcraft games. The smaller portraits and sprites in those titles didn't really bother me because of the type of game it was. It didn't translate well to me into an MMO where everything is viewed much closer. I actually prefer the dated FFXI visuals over WoW even after it's enhancements a few years ago. However visual appeal is all subjective to individual tastes. I used to joke with ppl when that WoW movie came out that the reason there is no FFXIV movie is because a movie company couldn't make an FFXIV movie look better visually than the game like they could with WoW.

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I don't care about WoW or the artstyle - it's now become more cartoonish/ whimsical similar to Wildstar (I actually liked the way wildstar looked though) My BF who did play WoW wanted the art style to become more realistic/ darker

I'm aware of how limited the character creator was in XI
It's not that I'm not appreciative that we can pick and choose noses, lip size, eye shape etc but it all could use a touch up. ( Like being able to wear more than 1 face paint at a time & new hair & eye colour saturations. )

I'd be for new faces in general but more for new hairstyles or NPC hairstyles added for player use. Actually- Hilda's ponytail & Lyse's ponytail > anything else
Maybe new faces with updates similar to Viera (eyelashes/freckles/new make-up etc) with the addition of a few new hairstyles Or share Viera hairstyles with the other races.
It won't happen though, I do not think the character creator will ever be updated- The probability of us getting new hairstyles is more likely.

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

Why am I not surprised at a response like this from a pink haired female character called Neko?

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Am I ugly?

basic bitch dragon girl

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

I don't care about WoW or the artstyle - it's now become more cartoonish/ whimsical similar to Wildstar (I actually liked the way wildstar looked though) My BF who did play WoW wanted the art style to become more realistic/ darker

I'm aware of how limited the character creator was in XI
It's not that I'm not appreciative that we can pick and choose noses, lip size, eye shape etc but it all could use a touch up. ( Like being able to wear more than 1 face paint at a time & new hair & eye colour saturations. )

I'd be for new faces in general but more for new hairstyles or NPC hairstyles added for player use. Actually- Hilda's ponytail & Lyse's ponytail > anything else
Maybe new faces with updates similar to Viera (eyelashes/freckles/new make-up etc) with the addition of a few new hairstyles Or share Viera hairstyles with the other races.
It won't happen though, I do not think the character creator will ever be updated- The probability of us getting new hairstyles is more likely.

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The fact they've repeatedly added new hairstyles to me points to that being the easiest thing to add to the character creator.

Funny enough as much as I disliked WoW from it's visual style to how the game actually played I did enjoy and like Wildstar which ppl often called WoW in space. It was a shame the service of that game ended some years ago.

There is definitely an creepy vibe with certain races/faces. I personally can't stand the Au Ra face 1 because of this, for example.

And yeah, Viera and hrothgar have some nice polygons/texturing on their faces compared to other races so it isn't as bad, probably because they are new, the other faces need updating to match. I can't go back to Au Ra or Miqo'te due to it.

And Lalafell look like hell-spawn when they grin and cheer, those little gremlins. I am also creeped out by them, OP.

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Originally Posted by Nethereal

Am I ugly?

basic bitch dragon girl

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No we're not dragon.

Changed to Hrothgar for the moment, I do like it better than Elezen. Thanks for all the replies.

Ugly? No. Weird? Sometimes. I find WoW characters to be those things in my opinion..I mean, in game model characters.

WoW graphics look way more modern. Just compare BfA and SL to SB and SHB. Feels like dropping that crapstation 3 support didn't benefit us apart from getting main city without a loading screen

I wish character models would finally get new textures, it would have been about time with Endwalker.

I'd love for them to clean up the textures on some of the older races as well as fix the hat/hair issue on the new races. The biggest thing stopping me from playing viera is the limited hair and hat options.

I've pretty much played every race apart from Roe and Hroth and that's more because I can't find a face option I like.

In a dream situation for me, they'd rehaul the character creation with even more face options and customisation options as well as more colour options for hair, skin and eyes. Like aura for example: I love the last face but the horns are horrible on it and love the horns on the 2nd face but hate the face :D

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

Lalafells are pretty ugly tbh I wish they replaced it with loli'qotes like Khloe Aliapoh and T'kebbe Morh

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...61/349/35c.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

Lalafells are pretty ugly tbh I wish they replaced it with loli'qotes like Khloe Aliapoh and T'kebbe Morh

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Yoshi-P has been on record saying that XIV will never allow children to be playable because the dev team knows about XIV's eRP community and trolls in general (not to mention how dangerous our adventures get).

The biggest problem is actually customization options (textures too). A good hairstyle can completely alter the look of a character, similarly something as little as stubble could make a big difference for male hyur. On top of that, I think this game has a lot of almost good looking outfit pieces, by that I mean there is always something extra on it; something that ruins it, or makes it difficult to dye. A good outfit makes a big difference for a character's look.

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

I don't know what he used, but his Japanese is riddled with grammatical mistakes, and his way to express himself is rude.
One of his replies got censored by the mods.

The fact remains, that this kind of posting makes the English speaking community look bad.

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You literally called yourself baka over there. Please enlighten us all as to what my grammatical mistakes were, it should be interesting. Actually, come do it on the Japanese forum, we could do with more posts over there. I really don't think that borderline dead community is going to be affected by a few @#$posts, whether they be yours or mine. You'll never get better if you don't practice and mistakes either. And judging from your post you could do with a lot more correction.

I need to know how anyone can take the OP seriously with a signature like that. It keeps me up at night. Truly it does.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

I guess I'm beating a dead horse but yeah, the non-human races of WoW were awesome. Kinda disappointing that every FFXIV race is just another variation of a human.

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What do you mean by that exactly? No, they're not "Humans" as in they belong to our species and etc. Humans as in Humanoid looking then yes. We've talked about it in the other thread on this. Hrothgars are the most beastly looking race, and they're aren't any less beastly looking than say the Lupin. The "beast" tribes are very vastly looking different from each other as well. In other words, these terms are primarily social constructs created by the elite of Ul'dah, and they're not used either in the Far East or in the First.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5616921
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5612067

Read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...encyclopaedia/

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Originally Posted by Herebedragons

I need to know how anyone can take the OP seriously with a signature like that. It keeps me up at night. Truly it does.

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Like all great art I see it has captured your imagination.

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

Like all great art I see it has captured your imagination.

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I prefer ESO's art style over WoW's any day of the century, but that's my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Strongfat900

I prefer ESO's art style over WoW's any day of the century, but that's my opinion.

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Was talking about my signature lol but I'll comment on this anyway.
WoW kind of pioneered that whole cartoony look that a lot of games use, especially on mobile. So it should be credited for that. WoW's artstyle actually changed over time though. When it launched the artstyle was different but it was actually very impressive looking. Hard to imagine now but this was before even games like ES:Oblivion.

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Was talking about my signature lol but I'll comment on this anyway.
WoW kind of pioneered that whole cartoony look that a lot of games use, especially on mobile. So it should be credited for that. WoW's artstyle actually changed over time though. When it launched the artstyle was different but it was actually very impressive looking. Hard to imagine now but this was before even games like ES:Oblivion.

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I do love cartoony artstyle myself. For example, I love the artstyle of DragonBall Xenoverse games. I do like the WoW recent artstyle from 2014 more than the old one which is pretty dated to say the least even though I don't really like it. I also like Overwatch artstyle a lot as well. Oblviion's graphics were great back then, but now, it looks very dated and ugly if you don't use mods to replace the head and body models. I like FFXIV artstyle which has a distinct Final Fantasy flavor to it.

I dunno, I think most of the races (Lalafel still remind me of the Capybara tribe from Granado Espada) and characters can be endearing until their expressions start to exaggerate. Some of them are downright adorable.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

I dunno, I think most of the races (Lalafel still remind me of the Capybara tribe from Granado Espada) and characters can be endearing until their expressions start to exaggerate. Some of them are downright adorable.

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On my way to commit war crimes against Lalafell slanderers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUARok1U0AE_32H.jpg

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

On my way to commit war crimes against Lalafell slanderers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUARok1U0AE_32H.jpg

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I can't help it. Every time I see one, I think back to
https://surfingacid.files.wordpress....capyleader.jpg

Know this is bait but...

You be crazy if you say Ferra looks ugly. Thighlander squad rolling in.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...d1361b6abb.png

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

I can't help it. Every time I see one, I think back to
https://surfingacid.files.wordpress....capyleader.jpg

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Then you leave me no choice.
https://i.redd.it/lqdbr5ducip51.jpg

Honestly the only ugly race are Roes, and that for their whack body shape. Lalafells are a meme race so they exist outside the paradigm.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Then you leave me no choice.

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Don't be upset that you will now always see Lalafel as
http://ge.t3fun.com/_GlobalData/Gran...ndice%2011.jpg

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

https://i.imgur.com/M1VeTX7.png
https://i.imgur.com/nzso60u.jpg
Anyone else feel this way? It's got that uncanny valley doll look. The newer races like Hrothgar and Viera are definitely better than the old but I still don't have a race I really like in this game.

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Even in 1.0, while the models looked better, character creation was very limited (the same option 1, option 2, option 3 selection as currently instead of sliders) which I always found weird coming from a company with a reputation of putting graphics and aesthetics as top priority over everything else.

E: why is this topic classified as bait again?

They're decent, a texture update would honestly fix a lot of problems. Moreso I'm always wondering if they have a randomizer choosing NPC appreances for side story characters when they have like blue hair with orange higlights and pink eyes with scars and weird makeup.

Personally, it took me a very long time to come to FF14, because I disliked the character creation that offers very limited appearance options compared to other games like Blade and Soul, Phantasy Star 2, so and so.

Still, once I get used to how the game looks, I find them not as bad as I used to think. Now I absolutely adore my little popoto girl.

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Originally Posted by MintnHoney

Don't be upset that you will now always see Lalafel as
http://ge.t3fun.com/_GlobalData/Gran...ndice%2011.jpg

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Then perish.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...cvg7LtyVDl4s8M

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Then perish.

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...cvg7LtyVDl4s8M

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https://i.ibb.co/WGsqgYP/Capyhunter.png

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Originally Posted by _Pigzig

Was talking about my signature lol but I'll comment on this anyway.
WoW kind of pioneered that whole cartoony look that a lot of games use, especially on mobile. So it should be credited for that. WoW's artstyle actually changed over time though. When it launched the artstyle was different but it was actually very impressive looking. Hard to imagine now but this was before even games like ES:Oblivion.

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WoW didn't really pioneer anything. The original game was literally stuff they took from other MMO's that came before it covered in a paint of Warcraft.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

WoW didn't really pioneer anything. The original game was literally stuff they took from other MMO's that came before it covered in a paint of Warcraft.

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Texture wise, perhaps. But the exaggerated proportions of the armor and characters was very not standard at the time. It was a design necessity for WC3 so to make each unit identifiable from the isometric perspective, and that design philosophy got carried over into WoW. Open world PvP was also really big early on in WoW so it was important to be able to identify who was who from a distance (race and therefore whether or not they were a friend or foe, which class they were and thus what abilities they could use and their weaknesses, etc).