Cooking with Rokien!

The only thing i see how this is a terrible idea(which is not) would be the inventory space. Though, I don't get the complaint about it being fixed and this would ruin it,"easier, less complicated". In fact there would be less ingredients(same easiness) to some foods, it just adds another level. Ya creating it would be hard, but we cant dismiss the idea they could take something from this and apply it later on with something else.

When I was thinking about giving depth to cooking, i went the other way..

Wouldn't it be nice to take 2 to 4 Completed Items and Craft them together into a "Meal"?

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Originally Posted by LillithaFenimore

LOL. Well, in all fairness, madmen do have some impressive enthusiasm...just quite misplaced obviously. I guess I'll stop feeding the troll...

BTW Alerith, <3 the sig <3 LOL It was hard to respond to you without laughing.

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.............. Don't become like the others.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

When I was thinking about giving depth to cooking, i went the other way..

Wouldn't it be nice to take 2 to 4 Completed Items and Craft them together into a "Meal"?

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That would be pretty awesome, instead of 30mins it would be like an hour, with lower stats but more stats.

How I feel right now:

http://dyingread.com/wp-content/uplo...n-meme-why.jpg

For some reason, I immediately thought of condiments from earthbound that gave food different effects. like if you ate ketchup + fries it did something different, as opposed to just eating fries. damn, i love earthbound.

I had a combo meal idea too a while back. ^^

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Combo-meals

They may not implement tho they are quite busy building a new game. :(

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I had a combo meal idea too a while back. ^^

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Combo-meals

They may not implement tho they are quite busy building a new game. :(

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I gave it a like ^.^

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Originally Posted by Doho

For some reason, I immediately thought of condiments from earthbound that gave food different effects. like if you ate ketchup + fries it did something different, as opposed to just eating fries. damn, i love earthbound.

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huh, that's pretty cool, now if a simple game as earthbound can do it I'm sure this game can too...

Sounds like interesting idea and if the devs can make something like this happen for the foods would be interesting... but I think it's really hard to do this one since every item will require to be inserted into the database as one additional item with ingredient added/subtracted.

They need to add subligar shaped ginger cookies while ingredients are same as regular ginger cookies the effect being 100x better since it has the subligar shape.

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Originally Posted by Doho

For some reason, I immediately thought of condiments from earthbound that gave food different effects. like if you ate ketchup + fries it did something different, as opposed to just eating fries. damn, i love earthbound.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

huh, that's pretty cool, now if a simple game as earthbound can do it I'm sure this game can too...

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Would be nice for sure.
Eat Salad + Steak + Juice = Added bonus (full meal effect)

If I'm not mistaken you recently told Wolfie in a thread that you had no interest in DoL and DoH classes. So why, then, are you posting ideas and feedback for something you have no interest in playing?

I think some of these posters need to learn how to turn the hate off. :(

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I think some of these posters need to learn how to turn the hate off. :(

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Cooking with Scorpion =/= hate :)

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

If I'm not mistaken you recently told Wolfie in a thread that you had no interest in DoL and DoH classes. So why, then, are you posting ideas and feedback for something you have no interest in playing?

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I have no interest in playing them but they effect everyone through with what they do... Like, producing food...for me to eat....

Then don't ask for an ass backwards system for creating different food effects :D You want stat choices. Come up with ideas for the end result(stat bonuses), not the process of making them.

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

Then don't ask for an ass backwards system for creating different food effects :D You want stat choices. Come up with ideas for the end result(stat bonuses), not the process of making them.

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The whole point is the end result of the end product. That is the whole point of the thread, different choices of stats with the same food, or now a combination of food(meals).

Instead of saying "YOU DON'T LIKE PLAYING X CLASS" you should help with the ideas like a few others are.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

there should be a way to add and subtract ingredients from some food.

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That is the process. Sure you asked for something that created a slightly different stat bonus but you want to change the creation method into something confusing and inventory space intensive.

edit: No, I'm just here to point out that you're trying to change something for a class you have no interest in playing. With that I bid you farewell! I know how into yourself you are and you're never going to stop quoting and replying.

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

If I'm not mistaken you recently told Wolfie in a thread that you had no interest in DoL and DoH classes. So why, then, are you posting ideas and feedback for something you have no interest in playing?

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You do know food affects everyone, right? Well maybe you do and just trying to rail onto the OP in some way.

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Originally Posted by LittleBraver

That is the process. Sure you asked for something that created a slightly different stat bonus but you want to change the creation method into something confusing and inventory space intensive.

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Come on now we are thinking 2.0 here, pretty sure we wont have inv. issues like we do now.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I think some of these posters need to learn how to turn the hate off. :(

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I'm sorry, I just easily get irritated by the same user making hundreds of dumb topics despite being repeatedly told that only one out of 50 ideas he comes up with are decent (and that's not even counting plausibility). When you get a bunch of people who no clue complaining about something, the devs take notice of it and they end up making bad decisions. I've seen it happen too many times, and the result is you either get a horribly imbalanced game, or the dev team ends up bucking down and stop taking into account feedback (what happened with WOW).

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Originally Posted by Rokien

So, today when I was making me some homemade pizza, I was thinking, there should be a way to add and subtract ingredients from some food. Like, I don't put cheese on my pizza, or mayo on sandwich. They could have slightly different effects to go with it.

Give thoughts and ideas please!

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I think some of these posters need to learn how to turn the hate off. :(

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It's impossible for them to, since instead of agreeing or disagreeing with the idea, they will disagree just because it's the poster or subject matter, which is funny since it makes them look worse than the posters they're continually showing hate for.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Cooking with Scorpion =/= hate :)

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Cooking with Ermac was better.

as a dedicated CUL (and only a CUL) i have to say this idea gives me a stroke. Im not saying I dont like the idea, I've had similar ones myself (a basic 'Cake' that you add different flavors to for different buffs: chocolate, rolanberry, carrot, etc). But the only way to really make that system work would be to make the ingredients the source of the buffs (carrots add PERCEPTION, chocolate adds MP, Saffron adds EVA, etc) but now we're talking about something completely, entirely different. A for effort tho!

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

as a dedicated CUL (and only a CUL) i have to say this idea gives me a stroke. Im not saying I dont like the idea, I've had similar ones myself (a basic 'Cake' that you add different flavors to for different buffs: chocolate, rolanberry, carrot, etc). But the only way to really make that system work would be to make the ingredients the source of the buffs (carrots add PERCEPTION, chocolate adds MP, Saffron adds EVA, etc) but now we're talking about something completely, entirely different. A for effort tho!

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Well as a few others mentioned they can do something like meals.

sure, meals are totally workable idea. 5 extra versions of existing recipes...not so much.

I did a little edit to the OP.

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

sure, meals are totally workable idea. 5 extra versions of existing recipes...not so much.

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Meals would pretty much be like the FFXI version of HQ, +1 and Party foods. It would also be something completely different from most MMOs which just has the basic line of drinks for use at varying levels and basic foods for use at varying levels then the "fun" items.

Though Party foods was a good idea but bad in execution...like a mage using a 3 hour party food and giving the tank mage buffs when he needed tanking food xD

See this is how a thread should go :D

OMG it is quite daunting to even attempt to jump into some of the conversations that take place on these forums... I read post one to see what the topic is, but by the time you get to page 7 the topic has been derailed so many times you really don't know what you are even posting about??!?

Um food combo's not good idea??

I think pizza without cheese should be illegal, personally...

Okay I really like the meals idea, I was thinking when I drank my pineapple juice last night, why can't I have a pie too? They may have to reduce the existing stats if we could stack food items but it would add realism and fun.

You could have micro items like mints that add only +1 mind or something of the like too. Or even 0.5. Maybe for ease culinarians could even 'package' the meals in baskets for people, and have them consume the item that way, it would be a level 48 recipe of course so only high level culinarians could make baskets, or perhaps lower leveled CULs could only put together lunches; a drink and one other main dish OR a dessert.

I like the idea.

I dont want dodo tenderloin in that dish, I dont eat meat. Also, is it organic?

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Originally Posted by Gugnir

I dont want dodo tenderloin in that dish, I dont eat meat. Also, is it organic?

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How dare you insult this establishment! DID YOU NOT READ THE MENU!?

All.
Of.
Our.
Food.
IS.
Or-gan-ic!

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I dont want dodo tenderloin in that dish, I dont eat meat. Also, is it organic?

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Not only is it organic... It's WILD and LOCAL!

OMGs! :O

Personaly i find it hilarious when someone like Mr. Rokien here who's Culinary level is 0 and has absolutely no idea how much culinary sucked for more than a year since release because it was too complicated and that SE fixed it recently revamping pretty much every damn culinary recipe, making it WAY better than it used to be and less complicated, making every cook in game happy.

But there's no way Rokien would know this, cause he never even cooked a single sea sand lols
And yet he's here, making a pizza irl and comes with his "brilliant" ideas how to make culinary complicated again.
I think its time for him to answer with something that doesn't makes sense, then troll a bit and go make a new thread lols

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Originally Posted by VytasBismarck

Personaly i find it hilarious when someone like Mr. Rokien here who's Culinary level is 0 and has absolutely no idea how much culinary sucked for more than a year since release because it was too complicated and that SE fixed it recently revamping pretty much every damn culinary recipe, making it WAY better than it used to be and less complicated, making every cook in game happy.

But there's no way Rokien would know this, cause he never even cooked a single sea sand lols
And yet he's here, making a pizza irl and comes with his "brilliant" ideas how to make culinary complicated again.
I think its time for him to answer with something that doesn't makes sense, then troll a bit and go make a new thread lols

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In beta all I did was craft. So I'll get that out of the way.
I'm not making anything more complicated. Just a more depth system.
So, lets see, Meat Miq'abob Fire Shard x3
Dodo Tenderloin x1
Paprika x1
Ruby Tomato x1
Lavender Oil x1
Table Salt x1
Black Pepper x1
Don't like Tomato, don't add it, you will get a slightly different effect. Taking one ingredient out of the equation, making it LESS complicated of a craft. Though, I did do an edit on my OP, you should read it about the meal things. That just adds more depth to the cooking, not more complicated.

Also, as I stated before, FOOD effects everyone, not just the people making it.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

In beta all I did was craft. So I'll get that out of the way.
I'm not making anything more complicated. Just a more depth system.
So, lets see, Meat Miq'abob Fire Shard x3
Dodo Tenderloin x1
Paprika x1
Ruby Tomato x1
Lavender Oil x1
Table Salt x1
Black Pepper x1
Don't like Tomato, don't add it, you will get a slightly different effect. Taking one ingredient out of the equation, making it LESS complicated of a craft. Though, I did do an edit on my OP, you should read it about the meal things. That just adds more depth to the cooking, not more complicated.

Also, as I stated before, FOOD effects everyone, not just the people making it.

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There are a total of 86 fully finished dishes right now. We can assume an average of 3 ingredients per dish (a low and generous amount for this example). At 3 ingredients per dish, there are are 7 possible combinations or end-results. That's 602 total dishes, which is excessive.

When the average number of ingredients jumps to 4, the total dishes is 1548. That's insane.

Please think about what you're requesting before you make a topic.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

There are a total of 86 fully finished dishes right now. We can assume an average of 3 ingredients per dish (a low and generous amount for this example). At 3 ingredients per dish, there are are 7 possible combinations or end-results. That's 602 total dishes, which is excessive.

When the average number of ingredients jumps to 4, the total dishes is 1548. That's insane.

Please think about what you're requesting before you make a topic.

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Hurp please read my op again hurp

"Maybe making different recipiese for each item is a little much"

Also, if a game like earthbound can do it, I don't see why this game couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Hurp please read my op again hurp

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That is absolutely not different, because the end result must still be an item that has to sit in your inventory. It's an object that must be defined before you are able to see it in-game. Pick up a beginners' book on discrete math and combinatorics before you make suggestions like this. What you're suggesting offers very little gameplay benefit and it's actually something that is bleeding edge computer science experimentation, because of the sheer amount of data and variability that needs to be accounted for.