Consensus about lifting job glamour restrictions

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Originally Posted by MsQi

If I am wearing a bikini what Job am I?

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Um...

*points in random direction*

That one?

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Originally Posted by MsQi

If I am wearing a bikini what Job am I?

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Limsa Lominsan?

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Originally Posted by myahele

He's mostly worried that it will confuse new players to see things like mages wearing heavy armor, but he's at least open to lifting some restrictions.

Q: Can you ease up on the class and job restrictions for glamours to expand their use further?
A: We’re gradually easing restrictions, but since FFXIV’s setting strives to be a real fantasy role-playing game, there is a possibility that players who are new will become confused, so we’d like to maintain certain rules for glamours such that you cannot be a mage that is wearing heavy armor.
I’m not saying that this rule will still hold true 10 years down the road, but currently the upcoming expansion will have a dark fantasy setting and we’d like to preserve that aspect of the lore.
However, we received a lot of feedback asking to make it possible for males to wear skirts to expand the use of glamours.
The game is being development by a large amount of people, and if we don’t have easy to understand rules in place things will likely become a mess, so I’ve given the order to separate glamours for role and class, but if there are a large volume of requests for something in particular, there is a fair chance it will be addressed. We’d like to expand the ways you can glamour yourselves bit by bit.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...801-08-2015%29

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I can understand his concerns to an extent. Especially in a game where any and every character can be any job, having no holds barred with glamour would really muddy things up.
On the other hand, there are many other things a new player might be confused by that deserve dev attention more than how well randos look like they're sticking a role identity.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Um...

*points in random direction*

That one?

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Clearly she is wearing the shisui fending set you uncultured swine!

It’s gonna be a no from me. I actually just tried on the level 70 healer armor set and it straight up makes my character look like a Paladin. There’s enough armor in your category if you look for it. People will beg for healers to get plate and then still glam their bikini.

That being said I would absolutely welcome more plate looking options for healers going forward.

I would also like an Armor log or a simplified system like some people have stated that WoW has.

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

I actually just tried on the level 70 healer armor set and it straight up makes my character look like a Paladin.

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Which set?
I must have overlooked this one and I'd like to use it.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

you uncultured swine!

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https://media.giphy.com/media/HQqStk...oIvF/giphy.gif

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Which set?
I must have overlooked this one and I'd like to use it.

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Went through all the vendor sets and got no idea what he is talking about.

A 70 crafted set seems to use the vault monk/sam armor. The 68 vendor set does share between tank/healer.

Exclusive gear aesthetics are one of the very few things that differentiate jobs now, so that's a no from me too.

https://i.postimg.cc/W3nJXPLp/Cleric.jpg

Not sure why people think healers in armor is weird.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Which set?
I must have overlooked this one and I'd like to use it.

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It’s the one that you can buy from the Crystarium NPC shop. Dyeable and has a Platemask Visor.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I can understand his concerns to an extent. Especially in a game where any and every character can be any job, having no holds barred with glamour would really muddy things up.
On the other hand, there are many other things a new player might be confused by that deserve dev attention more than how well randos look like they're sticking a role identity.

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I honestly don't view with that amount of aggravation, since the interfaces of regular equipment and gamouring are completely different, plus glamouring is not a default feature, as you need to unlock it.

I agree with you that there are more urgent matters regarding the perception that new players have... Most likely a proper job tutorial at advanced levels. The game does an abysmal job at explaining things in the long run.

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

It’s the one that you can buy from the Crystarium NPC shop. Dyeable and has a Platemask Visor.

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That's the model that started as striking/scouting gear for the Dusk Vigil set.

https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamours/body/15091

What with threads getting bumped willy-nilly left and right, I figured I'd do it for the sake of a cause I 100% support, consequences be damned...!