Less shirtless men, please

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Might I direct you towards what has become known as "healer hot pants". There are two versions, one is dyeable too.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/964dd043d0d/

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...m/5c40f68974d/

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you can get the healer booty shorts at a lower level now in one of the arr dungeons. I want to say either qarn or AV.

While I think this is a great game, one that keeps me coming back for all of the positive aspects SE provides in it, I often find myself covering my face in disbelief, even shock in some encounters, for the negative things that they add to the game. I realize it allows for the player base to indulge in immature sexuality, the rating even warns of it, plus the fact they have no control over what players will see by other players behavior and they can't be held responsible if the players get...vulgar/gross with their contributions to the gameplay...but shirtless guys running around doesn't seem as bad given some of the other things running around, I guess most notably of recent, guys wearing women's clothing, casino bunny suits of all things. I think its obscene, and just avoid players advertising for something other then playing the content. That's the best we can do atm given the situation...like Lot.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

Seriously, does anyone actually enjoy looking at that?

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Wait i can't be gay? Oh ThAnK gOd I wAs ScArEd FoR a SeCoNd!!!!
I thought girls started playing this game too, good lord i don't want to see something like that happening.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

1 out of 100,000 people, congrats.

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I'd love for you to confirm that the other 99,999 don't feel a little giddy seeing shirtless totally jacked men running around in the game, especially male roes with their pecs that go for miles.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

Spoken like a true guy-pretending-to-be-a-girl.

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Pot kettle black?

It's usually beta soyboy simps that attack other people online while remaining comfortably behind their PCs. RL tantrum spewing females don't possess the rationalism to remain anonymous.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

This is the only MMO I've played with shirtless men running around. Seriously, does anyone actually enjoy looking at that? Here's a secret: we don't. Women can be sexy, but men should just stay covered. Thanks.

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More shirtless men, please.
This is the only MMO I've played that does not have enough shirtless men running around. Seriously, doesn't everybody enjoy looking at them as much as I do? Here's a secret: I totally enjoy looking. Women can be sexy, but uncovered men can be just as sexy. Thanks.

What's that? glam off my shirt for All my classes? You got it t0rn. I'll tear off my shirts and be the shirtless man you so clearly thirst for. You're Welcome.

So uh i had no idea what i was lotting on in the 24 man, and ended up with this rocky horror picture show esque bottom piece. Decided to make a glamplate with the emperor's new coat and that as my bottom, in memory of OP

I would like the shirtless men more if they actually had nipples.

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Originally Posted by RTX3080

This... This thread is a microcosm of the degeneracy of our society. We live in a society where people are asking for armpit hair and n*pples on males. First of all, men do not feed babies so what is the point of adding that? Second of all, armpit hair is gross.

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I can no longer tell who is the troll and who is the trolled. This thread has gone to plaid.

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Originally Posted by MaraD_

I hate the color orange.
Most peoples favorite colors are Blue, followed by green or Cyan.

So shouldnt we get rid of orange clothes/armors/dyes in the game? Im seriously tired of seeing them.

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B-b-b-but you have orange dyed cat ears on!

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Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy

I can no longer tell who is the troll and who is the trolled. This thread has gone to plaid.

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https://i.stack.imgur.com/mNA4dm.jpg

/10 chars

Op, you picked the wrong forum and wrong game, honey. Mbai.

Trolls trolling trolls. Look how far we've come

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

Trolls trolling trolls. Look how far we've come

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I mean, when troll topics actually turn into sophisticated debate

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Originally Posted by t0rn

This is the only MMO I've played with shirtless men running around. Seriously, does anyone actually enjoy looking at that? Here's a secret: we don't. Women can be sexy, but men should just stay covered. Thanks.

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I enjoy it very much nothing is better than seeing half naked guys... thats even better anything else honestly.. really best part of the game is spotting which guy looks better when half naked then shipping them with the next guy allows me to picture yaoi fantasies every time i see them ~_~

Or people can do what they want. If as you say, nobody enjoyed looking at it, then it wouldn't be a thing that is actively done by a lot of people.

Dunno if this is a troll or...

To live in a world where shirts are obsolete....I love me some man beef so i disagree

As a woman behind male character I disagree. Gotta do what I want with my character, and if I want him wandering around without a shirt - so be it.

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Originally Posted by Hazama999

Gonna hijack this post to ask if we can get booty shorts for men instead of boring-ass jeans we get every time?

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This is something I cry for since forever at this point. Every time there's yet another one shorts release for females characters, I'm guessing in advance what type of ugly mess it will be for males this time.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

This is something I cry for since forever at this point. Every time there's yet another one shorts release for females characters, I'm guessing in advance what type of ugly mess it will be for males this time.

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Meanwhile I see male characters getting nice pants and wonder if I'm getting tiny shorts or another skirt-and-stockings combo.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Meanwhile I see male characters getting nice pants and wonder if I'm getting tiny shorts or another skirt-and-stockings combo.

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True as well, pants from Copied Factory being one of the most prominent examples.

Speak for yourself.

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Originally Posted by RTX3080

As if the shirtless men are staying shirtless for you

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Everyone so often you make a good point lol

http://38.media.tumblr.com/c11b0add5...fv8xo1_500.gif

Or at least give us shirtless girls as well!

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Meanwhile I see male characters getting nice pants and wonder if I'm getting tiny shorts or another skirt-and-stockings combo.

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There is a bit of a restriction on that though.
Its usually limited to only 3 scenarios, rarely ever going outside of these 3.
(1) AF armor each expansion.
(2) Lv1 glamor items in each patch.
(3) Seasonal event armor.
So its reasonably spread out honestly. 4man dungeon gear, crafted leveling gear, tome gear, and savage gear, almost always dont have this issue.

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Also, to those who care, the OP may be trolling, but there is a bit of an interesting issue at hand regarding the topic.
Most straight males tend to like roughly 75-80% of the same types of female features. (Almost always bodily features too)
Most Straight females do NOT like the same physical features on males. (They actually prefer non physical bodily features, such as styles of clothing. But whats popular/liked is always changing every few months)

The features they like, are constantly changing by a rather large degree over time, as large as years, to even just a few months. Guys dont go through these fads. If there is a difference, its usually a very small difference, that you could hardly notice.

But one of the most consistent features liked over the course of human history, has been Muscles. BUT, MOST women do NOT like muscles! To give a simplistic example, the number of women who like muscles on guys, will almost never exceed 40% of straight women. But any other category of features they like, wont exceed 40%. (The closest competitor to muscles is height)
So if you're comparing groups of 40%, 30%, 20%, 10%, etc, the largest group is the 40%, while this also means MOST women do NOT like the 40% (the remaining being 60%)

So the OP is correct that most women actually dont find shirtless men to be that inherently attractive. But its also one of the largest groups in which to cater towards, since there is no group with such a high percentage. (Which is why the OP is wrong in wanting to get rid of them, but they werent being serious anyways, since its just a troll post.)

Lastly is of course the vast amount of gay guys who are all about it lol. So there is a market for it, and theres no reason to remove a feature of the game which brings in more ppl than it pushes away.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/5f...065c2b2331.jpg

Also while we are on the topic of shirtless men, somebody pointed out to me that this game doesn't seem to have nipples and now somehow I can't unsee that which is absent.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Or at least give us shirtless girls as well!

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Guys go shirtless in many cultures, it's even played out in movies like Moana and Dances with Wolves, or the NPC desert tribes in the game itself. So I didn't understand the OP's attention to it.

But I know pushing further and further to see how far "it" can be taken is what the forums have become a hot bed for, with almost a primal obsession, but I feel that maybe a line even SE won't cross...the topless females I mean.

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Originally Posted by Angelov-Mercy

Guys go shirtless in many cultures, it's even played out in movies like Moana and Dances with Wolves, or the NPC desert tribes in the game itself. So I didn't understand the OP's attention to it.

But I know pushing further and further to see how far "it" can be taken is what the forums have become a hot bed for, with almost a primal obsession, but I feel that maybe a line even SE won't cross...the topless females I mean.

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Nothing wrong with topless women. *almost prays*

For large-breasted women, going around without support can be very painful, especially in highly physical activities (like, y'know, combat).

Yeah OP, these shirtless men are half-doing it, and should take of all their clothes completely.

Those of you getting excited should realize that some of these 'men' are scrawny catboys without shirts. But yeah, they somehow have six packs because game not real life.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

Those of you getting excited should realize that some of these 'men' are scrawny catboys without shirts.

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https://i.imgur.com/kBzBQqp.png
(Random [and fun] google search image, not me)

This thread really needs to turn into a "Show us your Shirtless Miqo'te" thread.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

Those of you getting excited should realize that some of these 'men' are scrawny catboys without shirts. But yeah, they somehow have six packs because game not real life.

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everyone has a six pack, but body fat mostly determines visibility, followed by how developed the muscles are. most skinny guys w/o belly fat, tend to have a slightly visible 6 pack. with only 2 guys i know, who oddly have a more developed six pack, despite sitting around watching TV all day, and having no real physical activities to do during the day.
the guys with even the slightest amount of belly fat, pretty much have their stomach smoothed out, hiding their stomach muscles completely by that thin layer of fat.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Also while we are on the topic of shirtless men, somebody pointed out to me that this game doesn't seem to have nipples and now somehow I can't unsee that which is absent.

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I mean... it's there, in a way, but has no texture. You can see nipples on male bodies under right angles tho.

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Originally Posted by t0rn

Those of you getting excited should realize that some of these 'men' are scrawny catboys without shirts. But yeah, they somehow have six packs because game not real life.

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Excuse me, but male Miqo'te have pretty much one of the best proportions in the game. XD Also, scrawny...? Did you see their backs? And then again even lore wise most of them are naturally good at hunting, for which you don't need to be as big as Highlanders are, but you will have some muscles nevertheless.

Male Miqote have really fucked up hands. :( I tried to fantasia into one for a month. I didn't last two weeks. Those hands give me the jibbilies. :(

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Male Miqote have really fucked up hands. :( I tried to fantasia into one for a month. I didn't last two weeks. Those hands give me the jibbilies. :(

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Their fingers is the only thing that bugs me since 2014 when I started to play. Fortunately they aren't in this position when running and using non-default idle poses, at the very least. I wonder what inspired them to create their hands this way though... cuz unless it's a depiction of "ye their fingers are more flexible" there's no any other reason I can think of, and even this one is like... more just an assumption rather than something what's mentioned in the lore (because it wasn't, as far as I remember).

Other players : More shirtless men please !
Me a male miqote player : Yeah let's try being shirtless and look sexy for a change !
Me litterally 0.5 seconds later : https://imgur.com/a/X4yrpJ8
Me looking at the armor: hell yeah i'm going inside you baby