How do you subsist?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You can turn off the skill errors in the settings. Dont remember where but there is an option.

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It took me a while to find it again after i had to install the game on a different system and forgot to make a backup of my settings... You can find it under the Character Configuration > Logs (bottom category) > General.

https://i.imgur.com/IFo0cHk.png

It is absolutely amazing that people will "defend" something so utterly pointless as this.

Like you really really need to know that you changed to "SCH *500" Its so important that after you opened the menu, or clicked your job macro, and saw the swirl around your character and the gear you're wearing change, that it also states that you changed jobs.

Amazing.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

The information that you are given this way is often not pointless or redundant. But I agree there should be an option to remove it from the centre of your screen and put it somewhere else less distracting like a chat log, or even be able to reposition it elsewhere and make the size of the message smaller.

Those messages that bother you do not bother me, but I'm not against introducing more ways to tweak ui. I always welcome more ui options.

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You used the word "often"

The information you are given on any normal gameplay day is in fact pointless and or redundant. Each time you teleport or change zones it tells you were you are. (Pointless and redundant for anyone who teleports using the teleport menu and clicks the location they want to go to.) ... in which it is absolutely impossible to teleport without using the teleport menu, and when you click the location, it asks you to confirm your location you are teleporting to.....

When you queue for something it says "Duty Registration Complete" That is absolutely redunant.

When you walk back and forth from the Aetheryte to the marketboard area in Limsa, it says "The Octant" and "Aetheryte Plaza" this is both redundant and pointless.

When you click save after making changes to the UI it says "Changes saved" .. thats pointless.

Please give me an example when its not pointless and or redundant, in so much that it needs to be directly in the middle of the screen.

Because 99% of the information it says, especially outside of battle is 100% useless and or redundant.

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Originally Posted by Bopsheezi

I never said I was against an option to turn it off, I understand some people would like to turn this off and not receive the redundant information.

Also, I tune it out by just ignoring it. Most of the time I don't even realize I'm being fed this mundane stuff. It's like breathing, you don't realize you're doing it until some tells you that you're breathing.

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Except "someone tells you that you're breathing" is exactly what the complaint is. The game constantly "tells you you're breathing." That would be the exact same scenario to a real life situation. Its literally like someone right next to you telling you. "You're breathing. ... you scratched your head. .... you turned your head. You lowered your eyes. You're thinking of getting some food. You got out of your chair, you moved to the kitchen."

Thats literally exactly what the game is doing. Its telling you where you are and what you're doing more than 50% of the time you're doing it.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

TCs posts are almost as annoying as he claims the thing he's complaining about is.

Frankly... I don't notice these things all that much, and never registered them as an issue.

Theyre just hud notifications, many games have them in various degrees.
I'm not against an option to deactivate them, but they don't seem like a pressing issue to me.

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I used to post sensibly, but so long as the game has spammy pointless nonsense like this, and the forums are full of people saying "no /10char" and insults, I'll rub against the grain too.

My posts are simple requests, or pointing out facts people neglect or offering up sensible solutions. I just add in a bit of spice to what I otherwise would say differently.

I'm more aware that saying something simple and cleanly, the request is either completely ignored or is misread. So why do things proper?

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I used the word "often" because the truth is what may be redundant information to you is useful information for another person. A lot of what you claim is redundant are things that I find useful to have notifications for. But I'm not so arrogant as to claim that my personal taste and needs as a player are indicative of the value of all information in the game for everyone else.

I agree we should have the option to alter how this information is presented to us, but I strongly disagree with your attitude that it's shocking that someone else may not feel the same as you do about certain information and how it should be displayed.

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Very convenient of you to completely ignore my request to state what is useful.

Its "useful" to be told you Equipped "SCH *500" after you.. opened the menu, clicked the job, clicked equip, saw the swirl of job change animation, and saw your gear appearance change?

Its "useful" to be told you're in the Aetheryet Plaza, when there is a giant oversized crystal right in your face?

Its "useful" to be told you teleported to Ul'dah, after you opened the menu, selected teleport, selected Ul'dah, and selected "yes" to confirm you want to teleport to Ul'dah? (The redundancy here literally just made me laugh.)

Its "useful" information to be told "Duty Registration complete" after you opened the menu, selected a duty, selected commence, and heard the duty registration commence sound notification?

I could literally go on for days. Yet you and the people who claim its useful, have failed utterly at giving a single example of when its useful.

When your retainers have returned? Tell me why thats useful while you're doing quests that it needs to be said right in the middle of your screen right in the middle of a cutscene? (I gave you an example for you, out of the kindness of my heart.)

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

It is absolutely amazing that people will "defend" something so utterly pointless as this.

Like you really really need to know that you changed to "SCH *500" Its so important that after you opened the menu, or clicked your job macro, and saw the swirl around your character and the gear you're wearing change, that it also states that you changed jobs.

Amazing.

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It could also help with accessibility stuff. Sometimes people have poor vision or something else, and it may make it easier for them. Unless you don't care about people like that? See, I can play that game too.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

It is absolutely amazing that people will "defend" something so utterly pointless as this.

Like you really really need to know that you changed to "SCH *500" Its so important that after you opened the menu, or clicked your job macro, and saw the swirl around your character and the gear you're wearing change, that it also states that you changed jobs.

Amazing.

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Same way it's amazing you're complaining of something almost insignificant, as if it's a game breaking issue.

But that's already par for the course with you.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

It could also help with accessibility stuff. Sometimes people have poor vision or something else, and it may make it easier for them. Unless you don't care about people like that? See, I can play that game too.

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Oh, but you completely misunderstand me. First of if you're implying that this feature is good. I never said it shouldnt exist. I said the option to turn it off should.

I dont enjoy the way posts are made. I would prefer people get to the point and not over post. But to get heard in all the noise, you have to be louder.

I do care about a lot of features, and see how certain things can help. But for a mass majority of people this information being displayed is being ignored, so clearly for the vast majority, it can and should be possible to be turned off. You shouldnt have to ignore it, if its useless, you should be able to turn it off, move it, or direct it to the chat log. There literally is no reason for this option to exist. Especially when they claim their UI is customizable, when that statement is furthest from the truth. You're probably not even aware that there is about a 100 UI element limit to how many elements you can move. This is another ridiculous aspect of the UI. Its saved player side so if you're on PC you should be allowed to move and save as many elements as you so choose. They already have an option to set the limit to how many menu's you have open, why not allow us the more important option of saving its position?

Also its pointless for them to put each UI element in a different spot, and even more so to slap them in the middle of the screen. (these are things like Wondrous Tails UI element, the Character menu, the Blue mage spell log, and every other similar element.)

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Same way it's amazing you're complaining of something almost insignificant, as if it's a game breaking issue.

But that's already par for the course with you.

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I could easily rip this game to shreds.

Its not even in the top Final Fantasy games for me. Its just the cheapest and has the most content. With how empty Shadowbringers has been so far, I've already went back to FFXI. That game surprisingly has a very active playerbase. The open world areas on a smaller server seem just as active as this game. (let alone mentioning a larger server like Asura.) Sure it has only 1 data centers worth of servers, such as "Aether" or "Crystal" not "North America" but its also over 18 years old. Says something about that game and this one. Especially considering the Housing is locked to the subscription (which Yoshida himsaid said would never happen.)

But this is something that has annoyed my since, I remembered to post about it in 2014. (I posted about more important issues first, and dont always remember or care to post about something in the game. But I did post this in 2014, and nothing has been done in 7 years. Which is absolutely ridiculous considering how pointless this feature is.)

Excuse me for wanting a better game and saying things in a way so it gains some traction. If everyone else did things the right way, I wouldnt have to play by their rules.

The crazy got dialed up a notch today I see.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

The crazy got dialed up a notch today I see.

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Didnt you say you blocked me? I guess I need to do the deed it seems.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

I could easily rip this game to shreds.

Its not even in the top Final Fantasy games for me. Its just the cheapest and has the most content. With how empty Shadowbringers has been so far, I've already went back to FFXI. That game surprisingly has a very active playerbase. The open world areas on a smaller server seem just as active as this game. (let alone mentioning a larger server like Asura.) Sure it has only 1 data centers worth of servers, but its also over 18 years old. Says something about that game and this one. Especially considering the Housing is locked to the subscription (which Yoshida himsaid said would never happen.)

But this is something that has annoyed my since, I remembered to post about it in 2014. (I posted about more important issues first, and dont always remember or care to post about something in the game. But I did post this in 2014, and nothing has been done in 7 years. Which is absolutely ridiculous considering how pointless this feature is.)

Excuse me for wanting a better game and saying things in a way so it gains some traction. If everyone else did things the right way, I wouldnt have to play by their rules.

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Low effort trolling =/= "ripping the game to shreds"

Funny how you always complain about nitpicky things no one cares about, instead of any actual great issues.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

I dont enjoy the way posts are made. I would prefer people get to the point and not over post. But to get heard in all the noise, you have to be louder.

Also its pointless for them to put each UI element in a different spot, and even more so to slap them in the middle of the screen. (these are things like Wondrous Tails UI element, the Character menu, the Blue mage spell log, and every other similar element.)

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That's a terrible way of looking at it and all it manages to achieve is to make yourself more annoying than the already loud people.

Have you ever been in a room with small children ( I use to teach 2nd grade.)? That's what small children think. "If I scream louder than Johnny, everyone will MUST notice me instead!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"

There is a way to get your point across without sounding condescending or forceful with your points.

Yes, there could be an option, it would be nice, but it's not game breaking or absolutely necessary because you "don't like them". As others have said, there are players that find them useful; several of those notifications are useful to me as well.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

That's what small children think. "If I scream louder than Johnny, everyone will MUST notice me instead!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"

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The funny thing here is you think you're insulting me, but the reality is I post in such a way, my thread gains traction, without really risking a ban. Thats a lot harder than you think.

I am not a person who needs validation from the masses. I dont post to gain likes, like a vast majority of others do. I post in 1 of 2 ways, 1. to gain traction, typically as in a new thread. 2. to respond to someone else, and I tend to try to be less inflated when I am just responding. It really depends how absurd the person I'm responding to is.

I dont try to be louder than the other people either. What I do is say something that makes you all louder. If you want to use the kids in a room screaming, I would be the one who says "Teacher, can I use the restroom, oh and look he has a boogie hanging from his nose! *points at person with snot*."

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Low effort trolling =/= "ripping the game to shreds"

Funny how you always complain about nitpicky things no one cares about, instead of any actual great issues.

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Or... or ... maybe.. just maybe.. I'm aware enough Square-Enix has been clear in their direction, so I post on the things I feel potentially could be addressed, easily. That matter to me.

You.. know... the saying "pick your battles." But again thats sensibility.

Honestly at this point, I'm feeling even things like this wont be addressed, so I'll likely stop. Wont you all like that huh? But if you all really like when people stop "complaining" thats exactly what Yoshida said about 1.0 players. When you're complaining, that means you care, when you stop complaining, thats when you know you've failed. If you think i'm in a small boat if I do quit, or take another extended break, you're sorely wrong. There is a reason they have 20 million accounts, but fail to hold a steady 1 million subscriptions.

To be fair, I don't know why we expect much from someone using an alt as their character on the forums. There's always something fishy about people who do that.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

The funny thing here is you think you're insulting me, but the reality is I post in such a way, my thread gains traction, without really risking a ban. Thats a lot harder than you think.

I am not a person who needs validation from the masses. I dont post to gain likes, like a vast majority of others do. I post in 1 of 2 ways, 1. to gain traction, typically as in a new thread. 2. to respond to someone else, and I tend to try to be less inflated when I am just responding. It really depends how absurd the person I'm responding to is.

I dont try to be louder than the other people either. What I do is say something that makes you all louder. If you want to use the kids in a room screaming, I would be the one who says "Teacher, can I use the restroom, oh and look he has a boogie hanging from his nose! *points at person with snot*."

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I would rather my thread gain my traction because of something constructive instead of me screaming the loudest and shouting "you can't defeat meeeeeeee!" But that's just me though.

Also, I think you HEAVILY overestimate yourself. Years of experience on the job tell me that children will either scream "ewwwwwwwww!!!!!" or end up eating their own snot and pretend like nobody noticed that.

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Originally Posted by TyrTry

I would rather my thread gain my traction because of something constructive instead of me screaming the loudest and shouting "you can't defeat meeeeeeee!" But that's just me though.

Also, I think you HEAVILY overestimate yourself. Years of experience on the job tell me that children will either scream "ewwwwwwwww!!!!!" or end up eating their own snot and pretend like nobody noticed that.

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You dont realize how wrong you are. There is no estimation.

In fact, all my threads gain way more traction than I anticipate. Most of the time I dont even have to respond on them. I'm responding on this one, because its something I genuinely want to see added, and am baffled why its been 7 years and not done so.

Why would I post on something that I know would gain "positive traction" such as asking for Male Viera/Female Hrothgar if I personally do not care about those features?

Again, I already said I dont post to gain likes. I post on what matters to me. Its not my fault what matters to me, doesnt matter to the masses. I dont enjoy listening to Lady Gaga, or watching videos of Niki Minaj. I enjoy things the vast majority of you have never even heard of. Things the masses tend to like, are very simplistic and shallow. Much like the direction this game has been going over the last 7 years.

I mean, we used to have attribute points that mattered (in 1.0 not 2.0.) Now its literally *just* item level. Nothing else matters outside of item level. Even crafting and gathering was more involving now its all quick synth and macros. Another better example for me personally is the quest in South Shroud where you go to the back of the tavern, pick up a bucket, take it to the river, place it in the river, wait for it to fill, pick it back up and splash the drunkard. Now its just you get a bucket outright. That was one of the times I felt the game did a nice simple job of creating even the tinest of immersion and they completely removed it because people are too impatient to enjoy something so simple.


If you're trying to insult me or irritate me I can outright tell you the best method. The more absolutely pointless things you say and if you take something out of my statement that is completely off topic, that is when I get annoyed.

For example if you said "for someone who isnt trying to be louder you sure are posting a lot."

Which is not only wrong, but completely off topic, and its a pointless response. Enough of these though I just hide the persons responses, because to me clearly they dont care about the functionality of the forums, and arent adding anything of value to any thread.



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While I am here, and while I am speaking of on topic I will add a few things.

I personally see the point of this feature. A lot of new people complain they get lost easily or arent sure of things, and a lot of gaming companies try to make a game that is simple enough that a brand new person to video games can start their game as their first video game ever. I realize a lot of people who play games already know the basics to gaming, so often times when the introduction period is too long, they start to feel the game is boring. There is a tight balance to these types of things. You want new players to not get frustrated or confused, and you dont want it to drag too long for veteran people.

So, in light of that knowledge, I would only assume, that such a feature as this would not only exist, but be the default setting. What doesnt make sense, is there is no option to turn it off, and even more so, how people can "defend" it as if asking for it to be turned off would magically ruin the game for them. (and yes this is me purposefully being sensible and then adding my inflation to the statement just to shake things up a bit. You all are so funny thinking I dont know exactly what I'm doing.)



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I mentioned a good way to irritate me. Someone coming in here responding to this and saying "oh its more than item level! You clearly dont do savage cause sometimes "BiS" is not the highest item level gear. Sometimes it can be the crafted item because the substats outweigh the main stat hahahaherurrurduerurreherhe git gud scrub"

Thats the kind of nonsense that is so pointless and irritating. As if someone who joined in 2012 doesnt know about substats and materia. Doesnt grasp the concept of a blanket statement. Doesnt grasp how stats have changed since 1.0, doesnt grasp ... basically anything a person who has been playing a singular video game for 7+ years wouldnt know. Of course I know about substats. The point I was making was that it went from gear sets, allotted points, custom builds, expansive materia system, spiritbond parties, the thrill of melding materia in 1.0 and how high risk yielded high rewards, to... "get higher item level." Literally all those systems are gone, in exchange for something very simple and very shallow. That was the point. And to that, responding with saying how "well 1.0 suckedddddd" is also pointless and annoying, as if I dont already know 1.0 failed, and how it was irritating and extremely time consuming to blow up gear after piece of gear trying to meld it. But to me that made the game very involving. To most, to its demise.)

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Originally Posted by Fable_Frost

You can already do this with macros.

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Care to divulge?

Is it the typical type of macro where its not actually auto hide and return, like the chat log feature where you have to manually hide it and it turns back on any time you're trying to do something else while using the gamepad?

Its not "auto" if you have to manually do it. Thats literally the antonym of the word. (Manual is the antonym of automatic.)

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

Care to divulge?

Is it the typical type of macro where its not actually auto hide and return, like the chat log feature where you have to manually hide it and it turns back on any time you're trying to do something else while using the gamepad?

Its not "auto" if you have to manually do it. Thats literally the antonym of the word. (Manual is the antonym of automatic.)

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You never mentioned the word "Auto", hence my response was not in relation to it being automatic. but I appreciate you explaining the difference between manual and automatic... Enlightening.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

An option to hide hotbars after a certain amount of time of inactivity.

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Hotbar 5, 6 & 7 for example:

/hotbar display 5
/hotbar display 6
/hotbar display 7
<wait.5>
/hotbar display 5 off
/hotbar display 6 off
/hotbar display 7 off

The hotbars will automatically hide after 5 seconds (or whatever you set it to).

I'll add the endless confirmations. I don't need a confirmation to go through a door, especially when it takes 3 seconds to return if I do it by mistake. One click, and the transfer should start.
The only times you should have to confirm an action is if it has a cost, or will take a long time to undo / return.

"Turn all material to NQ."
"Stack all materials."
"Don't show HQ to NQ warning again."
"Quicksynth only NQ."

Man, at this point i would just scrap the whole HQ/NQ thing. But well.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

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Care to explain why you are using an alt-account to post on the forums? Personally i don't take anything seriously from individuals who obviously don't want to be known. An account from 2012 with 936 posts and only a Lv.25 Gladiator while everything else is at 0. Hmmmm......

Just fyi, the red text Cannot execute at this time can be hidden. LOL

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Care to explain why you are using an alt-account to post on the forums? Personally i don't take anything seriously from individuals who obviously don't want to be known. An account from 2012 with 936 posts and only a Lv.25 Gladiator while everything else is at 0. Hmmmm......

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Probably scared to have others judge him

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Originally Posted by Juicymama

Just fyi, the red text Cannot execute at this time can be hidden. LOL

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That's not the only intrusive message without an UI setting. This is one area where World of warcraft has XIV beat, you can control every aspect of the UI in that game.

I've been playing it this way since the late ARR days. I'm used to it. I daresay most other players are used to it, too. Compared to other problems plaguing the game (general content droughts, not enough houses to meet demand, Quicksand ERPers, etc.), this is small popotoes.

They actually have a chief UI designer on the team last I checked. Put them to work.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

Very convenient of you to completely ignore my request to state what is useful.

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It honestly looked like you ignored that I agree with having more ui options for notifications because I don't feel the same way about notifications as you do. You appear to be searching for an argument more than anything else and I frankly just cannot be bothered to deal with that.

Er... not seeing this as an issue. Honestly people get fixated on really random things to me.

I have been looking for a way to make those pop up texts actually larger then they are because i often miss them in the middle of everything else often going on on the screen.

Have you tried moving things around in the HUD Layout menu