I laughed a little :)
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It doesn't matter what my reasons are.... I play the way I want and I have fun doing it. If it means spending 8 hour grinding parties like there were in FFXI, then I would quit the game. As much as I love FF, I won't sacrifice my family or career to play a game 8 hours a day just to feel i've "accomplished" something.
I glad Yoshi-P gets it. My subscription is equal to your subscription, whether I play one minute a day or 9 hours a day. The best part of this game is having multiple classes per character to mix and match during an encounter. If it means I can do that without spending 7 months of my life leveling a single class, than great.
I really don't get what your point is but I've indulged your self-righteous attitude more than I should have and I need to get back to work...
Thanks for everyone that gave suggestions. I'll try them out with some friends this weekend.
Hey guys, before getting into another epic PL opinion war, read this entire thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...olutely-BROKEN
What the heck does lazy have to do with anything in a video game?
The fact that we are even playing a VIDEO GAME means we are being LAZY...
This thread is about TIME, not EFFORT.
The OP does not want to spend alot of their TIME on leveling, nor figuring out where to level at probably because they do not find spending alot of their TIME on figuring out where to level nor leveling to be any FUN.
I would most likely say they are wanting to spend their most of their TIME playing as a high level class with their already high level friends.
1-20 Goats near Horizon
20-28 Mites near Nophica
28-37 Ants in the 2nd map of Copperbell or Higher Mites by Nophica
37-42 Raptors
42+ Natalan or Zaharak
For the self righteous people get the hell over yourselves if this is how some people like to play that is their option they are paying and it's not illegal so deal with it. If you don't like that then don't invite them to your party simple. PL works fine but if you can get a good group to go and grind in these areas it is actually faster especially higher levels and in Natalan. Considering even after merge our server is still quiet and forming parties is still a massive chore I don't blame some people with the level gap this game has.
Pathetic..
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The people who call PL haters self-righteous are WAY more self-righteous themselves. Quit pretending you're anything but lazy guys, cuz that's all you are. I could understand if leveling took a year... MAYBE.... but even solo, a couple hours a day it would take what.... 2 weeks tops? QUIT BEIN RETARDED like this is some super hard, time consuming thing. It isn't, and your attempts at justification for being lazy are seen for what they are.
so in theory, are you calling yourself lazy? I've endured a lot of junk when this game released. I'm all for showing the new people prime p[laces to xp, tips to solo, how to be profitable, but lazy people that want to take their level 1 classes to all 50s with all jobs full af is angering.
"Why back in my day..." we didn't even think it was pausible to do this thing you young'ns call power leveling. You know that rusty, never used boat from Uldah to Limsa that probably rarely sees a passenger? Well back in my day that was the porsche of transportation!
I don't care how you spend your time in Eorzea. I dont' care if you want to solo to 50, or form a group for 8 hours, or do leves, or log on and fish all day.
Why do you care what or how I do things? I asked a simple question... i got self-righteous opinions. I play FFXIV to get away from the "work" I did in RL. I derive no self worth as a person from FFXIV "work", though I do derive entertainment.
I guess my view is that I don't care how you spend your time, but apparently people are appalled at these power levelers. My god, they're worse than hard core criminals. /sarcasm off
It seems pointless to argue, these are the same kind of people who make posts akin to: "It'd be okay if we didn't have to level and they just started us at endgame." Yes, this is the wrong kind of game for those people.
Just ignore them Rydin. They apparently thrive on negative attention in some imaginary world where manners and common courtesy are cardinal sins.
Did you read the thread? Who was the first person to seek "negative attention" with no "manners and common courtesy." I can tell you that a specific person derailed this entire post.
As the creator of this post... a mod should delete it. I got the information I was seeking from Eight. The rest is just internet garbage and I apologize to the extent I was a part of it.
Sorry 'bout your thread bro, the unhelpful anti-everything "back in the old days" crowd always jumps down everyone's throat whenever a topic is made.
Sorry for the confusion there, Zell. I wasn't speaking about you. I was talking about Wolfie. The only thing I've ever seen him/her post is negativity and general trash-talking that ends up in pure insults. Useless.
Hello, everyone. Let's please keep these boards and threads clean and friendly as possible.
For leveling purposes, PLing areas at that level range seems to be in the common areas where people level together. I'm sure with the recent server merges there a lot more players on everyones servers that quite possibly might be in the same Rank range, if not I prefer to raise other classes or do some leves or quests to gain some other experiences within the game. Again this is only a suggestion but I hope this can be applied to other players as well.
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40-50 is plenty of time to figure out your job. Even then, a few ls runs will get you up to speed in a hurry. Contrary to popular belief 1-40 doesn't teach you shit about your job. You dont even get the full combos youll be using regularly til like 35+. Plus soloing to 40 does not teach you how to work in a party anyway. All in all the arguments against the whole PL thing are pretty weak...FFXIV is not one of those games that requires a lot in terms of "learning a class". You have to learn how to operate in dungeons and parties, but you don't learn that until you actually do dungeons or primals. No amount of grinding will prepare you for Ifrit/Moogle/AV/CC.
As for PL locations use mooglebox.
My name is Zezlar, and I do not know the definition of tedium.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tedium
Okay...while i'm not out with the pitchforks and the torches trying to raze the frankenstien's monster that is this game's PL system, i'm not going to give my man a road map on how to be extra lazy, no offence. I mean in all honesty with the way exp gains are, if you really just had people in your lvl range and a good 2.5 hours a night...you can make it from 25 ((taking in that you leveled 1-25 by yourself or however)) to 50 in 7-9 days max, seeing as how it was taking most of us halfway to the damned end of time to do that, i'd really not piss and moan.
I'm not even saying it has to be god awfully grueling, or excruciatingly long, but when you herp-derp your backside in here asking a question like that what did you THINK was going to happen? Some of us veiw it as a blatent insult that we DID put in all that time, just to see in an ifrit or moogle pt "hey i got all 50's i only been playing a week, how do i tank/heal/dps this? lol". I and many like me think the damned leveling on this game is broken as hell recently and while i haven't lashed out, i don't endorse such.
I could have had my butcher's crown ages ago, if we really brass tack it, but i take my time, not because i'm not playing, but because i'd rather go into a party at least halfway knowing what i'm doing before i piss off a group of people on my server with i'd like to play again with, or not waste all that precious ifrit DM (because that's ALL that S.O.B gives out lately) or dozens of repairs, because i blew through everything to get there, then i got there and didn't have a clue.
You can learn combo sequences, fix bars accordingly, alot of minor tweaking really, that can only come from working in pt, or frankly some solo, that you don't get to learn while you sit afk and make a friend do your heavy lifting for you, but i'll simply tip my hat to you sir, bid you a good day, and leave it at that.
Hey Rydin maybe you should go PL your shield you n00b!
Haha only joking, I totally agree with you, this is pure lazy, if you really want to PL go and find the camps yourself, its really not that hard...
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
1-40 does teach you something about your job. You'd be surprised at the people I've run into who do not know how to rotate/stack their abilities properly.
I've also met people who don't have a clue how to play in a team setting which makes doing AV and CC runs a pain in the ass, likewise for Ifrit and Moogle.
Power-leveling is a epidemic and is so wide-spread due to the belief that you have to be 50 to get ANYTHING done in this game. (Which is partly true.) I'm sure when 2.0 is released and the player numbers jump SE will put a stop to the gross PL abuse. Until then take the high road people, learn your job inside and out and do that while you level.
skele's + gnats west side of muntuy, 2 ppl pl'ing(1 person does gnats one does skele) gets you about 1-25 in 90min or less, camp there till 30.
after same gig but hippo's and ixal's south west of glory at the ixal encampment.
boom lv 40 in 3-4 hours.
after have a gla and thm train ixals in natalan, 5-8 hours later hello lv 50.
repeat other class.
Either make sure that the person PLing you will also teach you how to play the job or..... don't get PL'd at all.
There are already enough of those with a Paragorn's crown that don't know what Blindside, Featherfoot, Foresight, Parsimony, Dark seal and other very usefull abs do.