Diadem 3.0 is Terrible Content

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Originally Posted by Kaiserdrache

I wish there would be sn option after identifying the gathered maps, to not keep them, but to turn them in for more skybuilder currency

Gathering in the diadem is a huge inventory bloat that clutters it full in no time, if you are there for the full 3 hours and you gather stuff for both miner and botanist and use the etherzooka whenever you can.

Because not everyone is interested in crafting and you can't craft anything at all with these items alone, its only a money sink with that you lose gil and selling the stuff on the market is a waste of time because all that garbage is mostly worthless and sells for like 1-10 gil, because the amount of how fast this stuff comes in is like thousand times faster, than the material gets used and gets lesser, so the marked got instant flooded, making it pointless to try making some gil out of it

Material inflation is not good, snd if it is inflated players must get sn other way that makes the material worthful, if not for gil. Sky builder curreny is the right answer to that



Example > every 99 units of a diadem material should be traded in for 1 skybuilder currency

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There is no gil cost to participate so it's not a "money sink".

If you're only interested in making gil and could care less about the scrip items, try farming for the materials that crafters will need to make the non-Artisanal items like Manasilver Sand or Pixie Cotton Bolls. Prices on those have gone up quite a bit because of the new demand but few are farming them because they're playing with the new toy. It's a good time to profit before gatherers have the scrip items they want and move back to farming normal materials.

I personally like it. I put on some music and fly around smashing rocks, chopping trees, and blasting monsters. I find it quite cathartic.

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Originally Posted by Kaiserdrache

I wish there would be sn option after identifying the gathered maps, to not keep them, but to turn them in for more skybuilder currency

Gathering in the diadem is a huge inventory bloat that clutters it full in no time, if you are there for the full 3 hours and you gather stuff for both miner and botanist and use the etherzooka whenever you can.

Because not everyone is interested in crafting and you can't craft anything at all with these items alone, its only a money sink with that you lose gil and selling the stuff on the market is a waste of time because all that garbage is mostly worthless and sells for like 1-10 gil, because the amount of how fast this stuff comes in is like thousand times faster, than the material gets used and gets lesser, so the marked got instant flooded, making it pointless to try making some gil out of it

Material inflation is not good, snd if it is inflated players must get sn other way that makes the material worthful, if not for gil. Sky builder curreny is the right answer to that



Example > every 99 units of a diadem material should be traded in for 1 skybuilder currency

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I agree with this a lot. I honestly ended up vendoring almost everything, since it's pointless trash. The problem is nobody is crafting expert recipes, but if you want scrips from gathering you need to go for the ingredients for those. So you have to choose, either max scrips output or money. I chose scrips, since they're the reason i do this grind at all, money is so easy to make in this game anyway.
But indeed it would be nice if we could just turn the ingredients in to the npc instead of holding on them.


Apart from that, what I find annoying is the RNG in nodes. It's cool if you're just going for scrips, you just gather every single node without bothering. But if you want ingredients to craft, it's impossible to pick and choose. In this regard they made BOT/MIN almost like fishing, which I hate, I always loved that you can just go to the right node and gather directly what you need rather than praying the RNG gods and gather a lot of clutter in the process.

And ofc the scrips gain is highly inferior to what you gain by crafting, which is kinda sad. But at least we got something.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

One thing I would like to see is bosses where everyone has to get together and shoot it. Maybe a boss similar to Vishap where instead of attacking players it's marching towards a certain location and you have to stop it before it gets there. I think it would be really fun and would be incentive to keep charges up.

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God, I'd love that! Maybe let it destroy an island if people aren't fast enough! I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

If you're only interested in making gil and could care less about the scrip items, try farming for the materials that crafters will need to make the non-Artisanal items like Manasilver Sand or Pixie Cotton Bolls. Prices on those have gone up quite a bit because of the new demand but few are farming them because they're playing with the new toy. It's a good time to profit before gatherers have the scrip items they want and move back to farming normal materials.

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That's one of the main draws for me. Watching the market and predict what does and does not sell can be very rewarding.

When I'm gathering I'm not excited because I got my 1000th piece if flax but because I can produce something for myself/FC mates/ earn money/create that glam that i always wanted.

I used to loath crafting and gathering but i decided to give it a go with Ocean Fishing and now I'm (pardon the pun) hooked. Hope SE expands on the Diadem/OF front. ^^

it's designed to be fast and easy - to craft items for restoration - you can level up jobs there and win scripts - it's casual contest - and for that it works

10/10 points from me :D

I'm enjoying it more than is probably reasonable for content like that lmao

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Originally Posted by Avidria

I'm enjoying it more than is probably reasonable for content like that lmao

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I feel the same way. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

There is no gil cost to participate so it's not a "money sink".

If you're only interested in making gil and could care less about the scrip items, try farming for the materials that crafters will need to make the non-Artisanal items like Manasilver Sand or Pixie Cotton Bolls. Prices on those have gone up quite a bit because of the new demand but few are farming them because they're playing with the new toy. It's a good time to profit before gatherers have the scrip items they want and move back to farming normal materials.

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It becomes a money sonk the moment you want the crafting in a normal amount of time, javing to buy the materials you need to craft, that you can't gather in diadem >_>

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Originally Posted by Kaiserdrache

It becomes a money sonk the moment you want the crafting in a normal amount of time, javing to buy the materials you need to craft, that you can't gather in diadem >_>

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In fairness it really doesn't take long to level a gatherer and get them yourself. The money sink is the price of convenience. Then stockpile what you need.

Granted I am still levelling mine, but I left it to the last week before Ishgard Resto, but I also accept what I'm paying is the price of me being lazy. They've made the levelling nice and quick.

And in that time...my BTN is level 47 and I was not really making much effort in that week either. If anything, we've had oodles of time to prepare.

I get this feeling that I get with the other HW-era maps that they just massively increased the size later in development, after it was modelled and terrain meshed. I like The Diadem but feel like the map should be maybe made half as big. It would still feel massive.