Marksman jobs and keyboard faceroll playstyle

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Originally Posted by Akiudo

that i would say is a half truth, it is not totally wrong no, especially as you got to the higher levels of fights you can see that playing exactly the same, just with 10 extra item levels may push you from 50 to 90 or so, that much is indeed true, heck my best titan log as smn is 4 weeks old and with my current gear would easily put me in the 85-95 range whereas in fact its only 54 where on the other hand since i actually got some gear i deliver total crap in the fight, gear is indeed a very big factor.

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this only goes so far, if you want to play savage having ilvl 460 at this point takes you like 1-2 million gil if you are a crafter or know one, if that. Yes you may have a terrible starting week, you may even be totally broke, but running around in less than ilvl 460 for more than a week on a char you want to play in savage at this point totally is on yourself, and not only would i say "not preparing" is your own fault, therefore "rightfully" draggin down your parse, its also factually the exception, even semi serious players aren't running titan savage with ilvl 450, if they do that may be for a week under exceptional circumstances, but not more often, therefore this "individual player" you talk about doesn't matter. the ones that totally fall behind on the gear curve, like "holy fuck what are they doing in savage with that gear? level" are maybe 5% of a given playerbase per week, those that fall behind somewhat (so "i have ilvl 465 after 3 weeks of farming but i know people that mained a class longer are full 470") may aswell be 20% of players, but going from ilvl 460+ to 470 won't push you from 10 to 90, it may push you from 50 to 90, but this a)is still a minority of players, and b)these kind of players exist for all classes, so for comparing averages it makes no difference.

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Also that week 1, more than half of the players could clear it with a bit more than what a 10th percentile could do. You could easily do more than 10% more damage compared to 10th percentile today.
In other words, no savage loot, no tomestone gear. Only crafted and normal gear available.
And that was before the 4.1 buffs.

I am the source myself, I'm a terrible Samurai, practiced very lightly on it, I'm playing Samurai like 5h a month, but I enjoy the job and still manage to outdps my MCH parses I play more than 10 hours per week.

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Originally Posted by MoonShi

Thanks for interesting answers. but let's change course a bit. Lets talk about gear, especially weapon. How much dps difference between il460 weapon and il475

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The difference is significant enough to be worth getting. You just have to contend with Titan and TEA, two of the absolute hardest pieces of content in the game right now. For the vast majority of us, 460 and 465 will get the job done, and for those who can manage to beat Titan, 470 will be great to have.

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Originally Posted by MoonShi

Thanks for interesting answers. but let's change course a bit. Lets talk about gear, especially weapon. How much dps difference between il460 weapon and il475

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Any weapon with a higher ilvl is worth getting, even if the damage increase is only 1.

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Originally Posted by SleepyNeko

Any weapon with a higher ilvl is worth getting, even if the damage increase is only 1.

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thats why some people get a heart attack if they have to change their top substat weapons for mainstat and weapon dmg even if the substats are more or less garbage... : /

know at least 2 raider who always get depri - sometimes they run with the substats-weapons because they can't overcome to go with bad subs in exchange for main/weapon dmg...

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Originally Posted by Neela

thats why some people get a heart attack if they have to change their top substat weapons for mainstat and weapon dmg even if the substats are more or less garbage... : /

know at least 2 raider who always get depri - sometimes they run with the substats-weapons because they can't overcome to go with bad subs in exchange for main/weapon dmg...

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Wasn't there an exception with DRK Alexandrian Weapon?
I think its substats are Parry/Accuracy which made it underwhelming compared to the Augmented Shire Greatsword?

Substats worked in a different way back then and I doubt any ranged have bad stats anymore. SKS remains a low value on MCH but adds some comfiness on Drill/Air Anchor.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

Wasn't there an exception with DRK Alexandrian Weapon?
I think its substats are Parry/Accuracy which made it underwhelming compared to the Augmented Shire Greatsword?

Substats worked in a different way back then and I doubt any ranged have bad stats anymore. SKS remains a low value on MCH but adds some comfiness on Drill/Air Anchor.

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I can't tell a specif case now and I know it could be the better choice in rare cases like Brd and Crits back than - but the ones I talk about are just like "eeek sks?!" or "lol tendency no way" -> without a thought of math or rational arguments xD

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Originally Posted by Neela

I can't tell a specif case now and I know it could be the better choice in rare cases like Brd and Crits back than - but the ones I talk about are just like "eeek sks?!" or "lol tendency no way" -> without a thought of math or rational arguments xD

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TBH eeking at sks is completely valid, if youre at your comfy ss tier then getting more can be really bothersome