Petition: Don't implement Content Finder!

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

They have said that it would be cross-server. Which is why they want to focus on instanced content. So that players can find a group no matter their server.

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That's the problem I have with this whole ordeal

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Also can't take away something if it isn't in the game yet.

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Yet you keep making threads asking EXACTLY that...

If the feature does end up being cross server, it is possible you could meet people you actually enjoy playing with. And if they do make it so players can apply for server transfers in the future, maybe it will help people come together even more than just for 1 dungeon run or something.

I don't see why you are so against this. Why would you want to force people to wait around for hours for parties when people have lives outside of this game? Is it just because you want everyone on your server online to not have parties so they would maybe play with you instead? lol

To me, forcing players to be unable to do content for long periods of time is more of a community killer than a content finder ever could be. If people cannot enjoy the game, then they won't play the game, and thus no one will be able to party together because there will be no community.

I mostly do not have troubles now getting parties together due to my linkshell, but I know lots of players do have this problem. The server merge will help, but a cross-server content finder would also do wonders to help players that want to play, but maybe do not have a linkshell or know anyone because they are new, or can't seem to get into shout parties.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I also added a feature when I took away a feature..... come on now.

Also can't take away something if it isn't in the game yet.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Like I said, you don't have to use it.

Helping communities made me laugh though. Like me running a random dungeon would help Calvin get a job at WacArnolds!

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I keep it real! WU TANG!

A content finder is simply a better way for solo players to experience parts of the game that they may not otherwise see. Perhaps they are a new MMORPG player and have no friends they are starting with (we were all there once), or maybe they just prefer a no-commitment style of playing and is willing to settle for pick up groups constantly. Or, perhaps they are raiders and have a linkshell but want something to do between events. There is literally no reason not to want it unless your goal is to prevent other people from playing the game how they want.

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Originally Posted by Ava

A content finder is simply a better way for solo players to experience parts of the game that they may not otherwise see. Perhaps they are a new MMORPG player and have no friends they are starting with (we were all there once), or maybe they just prefer a no-commitment style of playing and is willing to settle for pick up groups constantly. Or, perhaps they are raiders and have a linkshell but want something to do between events. There is literally no reason not to want it unless your goal is to prevent other people from playing the game how they want.

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You hit the nail on the head, Ava. SE said they're designing the game one way, some posters here have made it their life's duty to troll their way into making it XI-2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

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Originally Posted by Ava

A content finder is simply a better way for solo players to experience parts of the game that they may not otherwise see. Perhaps they are a new MMORPG player and have no friends they are starting with (we were all there once), or maybe they just prefer a no-commitment style of playing and is willing to settle for pick up groups constantly. Or, perhaps they are raiders and have a linkshell but want something to do between events. There is literally no reason not to want it unless your goal is to prevent other people from playing the game how they want.

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Thank you. This is exactly what I was going to write except you wrote it better. The only thing I care to add is - screw you Rokien for selfishly wanting to take away a feature that other people might find extremely helpful.

I personally dont agree with everything roiken posts but in this 1 I disagree with cross server particiption. Now I wouldnt mind this for same world/server but sorry cross server is a big no no. The issue here isnt that we need a cross world finder, the issue at hand is that there isnt enough players to play with at times. Now from what I understood this server merger would take care of this issue. Now if the server mergers dont help with this problem than (more than likely we all already new) there is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed. Unfortunatly (key word Hopefully) all the issue will be addressed come 2.0, but until then my suggestion is wait and do what you can with the server mergers.

Really starting to think the op had a different understanding of the word petition then the rest of humanity.

Given that they've been turning this into FFXI-2 I don't think they will ultra-casualify everything with a content finder. I don't know what you're talking about with dead servers though; please speak for yourself.

The content finder has both pros and cons. The pros far outweigh the cons.

Content finders do in fact dilute the "community" aspect of MMOs, but it also strengthens the accessibility of content, which is probably a larger deciding factor when it comes down to "should I continue to pay my monthly fee."

SE can alleviate content finder cons by actually restricting NEW content (defined as content in the past two patches) to be available to a content finder grouping via server residents only. After two patches pass, those dungeons/instances/content become available to cross-server grouping.

If SE requires a black and white approach to the content finder, it is FAR better to have it than without.

i will for once agree with this being the fact ppl search me and it show everything, i get random tell to craft this for them and to meld this for them. I dont want to be a Dix, so i alway say yes. I dont mind it but from random ppl it hard to say since it does something take forever when some1 ask you to craft this than turn it this color than meld this and that so yes a little private would be nice.

Do implement Content Finder!

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That's the problem I have with this whole ordeal

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Oh you have a problem, do tell !

I'll say it again Rokien, you should be petitioning the cross server bit not the actual content finder.

I am massively for the content finder but I couldn't care less about cross server aspect as long as the population on a server is high enough.

The only reason I dislike "content finder" is because I think instancing everything in the game is a terrible idea.

...Isn't the point of a petition to gather as many signatures as possible of people who support something, and then present all the signatures in a nice, coherent way to the the higher ups who are able to make the changes you're pushing for?

If that's the case...and this is just me, now, I could be wrong...Wouldn't you keep your number of petitions small so that they're taken more seriously and bear some weight?

I.E. I work for a record label. I am bombarded with people day in and day out wanting me to "Hook them up." In theory, yes. Yes, I could get you an interview with my boss's boss and potentially make you a star. But, I never do. Because I know one day when I actually find someone I know can be a star, I don't want to be the guy who's like: "I FOUND THE BESTT PERSON EVAR" and my boss dismiss it because it's the 6092348345th "Best person evar" this month.

If you want your petitions to have any significance, please combine them or reduce the overall number.
I scarcely post on these forums, but I read them often enough to know that every other day you seem to be posting another "petition".

Whether or not I agree with your petitions is an entire topic unto itself.

Any opportunity to make more friends is fine with me. I'd like to play with new people. The server merge + this are both very welcome additions.

If you'd rather not play cross-server or (for some strange reason) have an easy way to find a group on your own server, there is always the main court in Ul'Dah and I haven't seen yet where /shout is being removed from the game.

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Originally Posted by Tsuwu

...Isn't the point of a petition to gather as many signatures as possible of people who support something, and then present all the signatures in a nice, coherent way to the the higher ups who are able to make the changes you're pushing for?

If that's the case...and this is just me, now, I could be wrong...Wouldn't you keep your number of petitions small so that they're taken more seriously and bear some weight?

I.E. I work for a record label. I am bombarded with people day in and day out wanting me to "Hook them up." In theory, yes. Yes, I could get you an interview with my boss's boss and potentially make you a star. But, I never do. Because I know one day when I actually find someone I know can be a star, I don't want to be the guy who's like: "I FOUND THE BESTT PERSON EVAR" and my boss dismiss it because it's the 6092348345th "Best person evar" this month.

If you want your petitions to have any significance, please combine them or reduce the overall number.
I scarcely post on these forums, but I read them often enough to know that every other day you seem to be posting another "petition".

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It's pretty sad that someone actually has to explain to him why his threads get trolled all the time.

people keep saying "don't use it"
well to be frank, if everyone uses it (only a retard wouldn't if this ever comes out) then the rest of us have to use it.

sure you can group up with your friends and LS mates and run the dungeon and events together, but what if you don't have any of that? now there is nothing stopping you from just going in and getting some random pt and doing it.
if enough people do this what are your odds of seeing the same people again? you wont talk to them again making you less likely to do any community interaction since its not necessarily important anymore to interact with people on your servers.

tl;dr randomly selecting parties from a large group of people makes you less likely to care about them when the said event is done. This only puts you in a solo bubble of your own and in a team game this doesn't help, it hurts.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Is it? Either way, it's a big deal that will change the whole community!~

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For the better.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Is it? Either way, it's a big deal that will change the whole community!~

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If you feel that way about it to the point that you have make multiple threads showing how much that its effecting your real life (which it obviously is) then simply stop playing ffxiv, problem solved....

Its too funny how an online video game can screw up someones real life so bad lmfao......:D

Rokien is gifthorse/giftforce/bearforce it very easy to see that stop feeding him

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Originally Posted by Captaindownsyndrome

Rokien is gifthorse/giftforce/bearforce it very easy to see that stop feeding him

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I dont know about a gifthorse, but certainly a nag

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

For the better.

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That's rather subjective. I don't think it will help the server community at all if anything help make people even more introverted.

Know what we need? A petition to get rid of petitions! Who wants to start it first? We've got plenty of volunteers.

Seriously though, there's just too many petitions these days. Asking to maybe get something changed is one thing, but making petitions continuously over a feature you don't like won't get it removed. Not saying I like the Content Finder deal, but I'm not against it either. It's one of those don't use it if you don't like it things. Confirmed it's going to be added either way so may as well accept it now and try offering feedback as to how it could be improved or reasons why you won't use it beyond "I don't like it!" as a reason.

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Originally Posted by Masamune1004

It's pretty sad that someone actually has to explain to him why his threads get trolled all the time.

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Coombah

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You laugh, but I know dang well why they get trolled.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That's the problem I have with this whole ordeal

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Here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

You laugh, but I know dang well why they get trolled.

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I wasn't trying to troll you, Rokien!
Sorry if it came across that way.

Just thinking it would genuinely help and make the community reps like Bayohne and Rukiiri notice them better if they don't think, "Oh, I've already looked at that player's concerns, and I think I've read that entire thread last week."

There's value in scarcity and weight in brevity.

Double post

@ OP:
So you want to keep the sense of community by reducing community interaction? ....like...what? o.O?

It's true a single well thought out post will garner more actual responses than multiple posts on the same topic.

Weigh the pros and cons in your OP, try and keep your personal bias outside the equation at least until the last bit where you can spew on your opinion of the subject. Bring a idea forth flesh it out as best as you can try and see how both sides are going to look at the thread and respond and let the discussion flow from there.

You don't see me making 800 threads about bestiaries or Monster AI, I leave them in my signature and even outside of GD I've garnered alot of attention to my ideas. (Good and bad) You need to take it all in stride and avoid just making another topic if your original one falls from the first page. Avoid bumping it and if it continues to trail leave the topic alone everyone has either had their say, or the topic isn't interesting enough to keep peoples attention.

Even if you have multiple threads in the same vien (About instanced content) try not to link them together to avoid people getting upset noticing the link between them.

my head hurts..

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Stop.

Making.

Topics.

Holy.

F**king.

S**t.

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Did..... did I just thumbs up Wolfie? I..... I... need to go think somewhere

F U The server Implement---- OPen a freken open world HNM and i'll accept this Server merge c arp for dungeon search.

I'am so tired of se just giving stuff to player's who doesn't want open world. At least give something to everyone who plays this S T U P I D G A M E since the start... I'am fairly Pissed thank you thank se.. I'am lasting this long hoping that one day open world and dungeon and pvp will be in one game not just La ME dungeon Or LA mE open world HNM.... make it fun for everyone---- not just one Group if you want to make MONEY SE D a M N it

I call BS on this. Several parts of the game could really use an automated queue system that teams players up for completing things like levequests, caravans, story/job quests, etc. etc.

The only time I see something like this being a problem, is when it comes down to doing dungeons. I find it very difficult to party with someone i've never met before and be totally comfortable with their ability perform well in my group. Now imagine if the entire group was made from a grab bag, WOW that would suck. This game really punishes you for one party member not doing what they're supposed to. There's almost no room for error in end-game dungeons. Repeating instructions for every pick-up group you get into is also bothersome.

HOWEVER

I don't feel that the Content Finder should be totally avoided either for the aforementioned reasons. There's a use for it, that much is certain. It's all up to how they implement it. Regardless, giving players more options is NEVER a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

It doesn't change anything, it just gives more options.

You can currently:

• Know enough people to run with (friends/linkshell)
• Shout for help (strangers)

With a content finder, you can:

• Know enough people to run with (friends/linkshell)
• Shout for help (strangers)
• Randomly get grouped with people from another server (strangers)

All this does is add options. Like I said before, stop trying to hold the game back because you personally disagree with something. You don't have to use it, so it doesn't hurt you in the slightest.

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This.


SE seriously... please do not listen to some of the players in this forum board.. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a conspiracy to destroy FFXIV with some of these idiotic ideas these people rant about.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

herp derpa herp herpa herp derpa derp

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Go away Rokien... Just stop and go away, seriously just go away.