If you healer sucks to play in SHB what is your backup plan?

I haven't liked AST since they buffed it to astronomical proportions. So, no big loss there that they made the cards mind-numbingly boring.

SCH, my main love, is being gutted so I'll most likely drop SCH and stick with WHM since the WHM flavor isn't changing. I'm sure I'll absolutely love SMN as I always have and DNC sounds like a blast as well. Maybe even focus on getting really good with PLD too.

I was AST/SCH main but seeing what they did to my poor SCH, I might just switch to WHM as I am not interested in the AST changes either. I might go Dancer as well. I will also prolly level my BLM.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

After feeling optimistic and realising my delusion at the next iteration of SCH I took the decision to look at alternatives. I tried RDM and SMN and I have to say SMN was enjoyable and I do get that is changing also.

It feels like I am sort of close to my SCH :(

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I'm probably gonna be a DNC. It seems they have a support-y toolkit, looks like it might be fun to play.

I'd persue Scholar, but if it's not going to be fun for me, then I see no reason to persist. Just push feedback on the job and hope they make the right changes in the future and find something that I enjoy.

Red Mage is a good fit as well, because I've viewed them as the DPS job for healers. I've noticed a number of Red Mages share in healer rage.

SCH is my main healer, but the changes don't look appealing at all. If I don't like it, I'll probably either pick up WHM again, or drop healing altogether and join the dps crowd. DRG looks relatively unchanged, and I've enjoyed their play style since 2.4 ish.

I hate every change they made about healer ( as expected ) ... so i will play Dancer and gunbreaker and wait 2 year for a new healer ( even if SE suck with this job ).

To bad, it will be very hard to find healer now. Enjoy the waiting.

I'll still stay on SCH regardless. I've played it for 6 years, you'd be crazy to think I'd quit playing it just because of changes...and for you guys to stop playing your healers because of a few DPS changes.

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I'll still stay on SCH regardless. I've played it for 6 years, you'd be crazy to think I'd quit playing it just because of changes...and for you guys to stop playing your healers because of a few DPS changes.

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FF14 fail to oblig us to heal constantly so we have a lot of downtime ... either you don't do anything and get bored, either you DPS but because they simplify rotation/removed dps it become even more boring now.

SCH was the only healer that use more than 1 button for DPS and now it's over.
AST was 1 button dps but at least the micro managment of cards was here, now it's over.
WHM ... has always been boring and still are so ... nothing changed.

It's a shame.

I used to main AST, but after the card changes it's quite dead for me. I'll prob start SHB with SCH or WHM, do the msq and take a long break till 5.1 or 5.2 to see if they fix something about healers. If I do come back though, I'll most likely try dancer or summoner. I love healing but I don't think that SE vision of healing is fun nor engaging and I'm getting tired of feeling bored.

I'm planning on giving the new SCH a shot at first. I still enjoy Healing more than DPSing rolewise, so I'd prefer to stick with it if possible. That being said...the changes look pretty terrible. My original 'backup plan' was actually AST. However, the two aspects I enjoyed most about it were the time mage style combos and the Card management... both of which have been pretty gutted this expansion. As for SCH, it just looks overall more boring than it used to be. If it turns out that sticking with healing is too tough...

My first pick will probably be SMN. It's got similar lore/feel to the SCH (literally the same class) and it wouldn't be too hard to switch between it and SCH if they fix it later or something.

My second pick will probably be DNC since it seems like a much more interesting support class than the healers at present. That sort of dancing mechanic is exactly the sort of thing I think healers should get...a way to spice up spells other than just 'press a button and it happens.'

I'll give AST and SCH a fair shot, but I'm expecting to move to PLD and DNC (it would've been BRD, but BRD's team support got moved to DNC too).

Another user mentioned only levelling the healers through a Deep Dungeon - I'll probably do the same.

Paladin. Unfortunately, I'll only be able to move away from WHM when one of our tanks wants to switch to healer/my co-healer over to AST from SCH, since I'm not touching that wannabe Yugioh!-copycat of a healer.

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Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken

FF14 fail to oblig us to heal constantly so we have a lot of downtime ... either you don't do anything and get bored, either you DPS but because they simplify rotation/removed dps it become even more boring now.

SCH was the only healer that use more than 1 button for DPS and now it's over.
AST was 1 button dps but at least the micro managment of cards was here, now it's over.
WHM ... has always been boring and still are so ... nothing changed.

It's a shame.

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Aero III, Aero II, Stone IV, Assize... Holy for AoE. You quite obviously never really played WHM if you feel like they had a "one-button-rotation". Maybe that's not exactly the most engaging rotation ever, but at least you had to manage two DoTs with different timers and a nuke (and a filler), and let's be real here, SCHs DPS rotation wasn't that much better in SB. Aren't you the guy hating on WHM since forever now? That would explain your unqualified response.

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Paladin. Unfortunately, I'll only be able to move away from WHM when one of our tanks wants to switch to healer/my co-healer over to AST from SCH, since I'm not touching that wannabe Yugioh!-copycat of a healer.



Aero III, Aero II, Stone IV, Assize... Holy for AoE. You quite obviously never really played WHM if you feel like they had a "one-button-rotation". Maybe that's not exactly the most engaging rotation ever, but at least you had to manage two DoTs with different timers and a nuke (and a filler), and let's be real here, SCHs DPS rotation wasn't that much better in SB. Aren't you the guy hating on WHM since forever now? That would explain your unqualified response.

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rip Aero III :( both in animation and losing a button for no apparent reason.

I'm pretty much going to keep healing and tanking and dpsing on the side. nothing is stopping me from doing all three I've mained healer in every single mmo I've ever played.

So long as healing is required, there will not be a need for a backup plan. TBH, I've been getting by already. Suffocating under 90% DPS uptime, and finding the most enjoyment in chaotic situations. They can lessen that uptime by any margin and it is going to make healing more interesting to me.

What ultimately matters when it comes to healing in FFXIV is that I find myself in situations where peeps are saying, "MEDIC!" I'm sure there will be plenty of that in ShB, so I am no too worried. However, I do have other jobs outside of healing that I do enjoy playing. I seem to pick up 2-3 jobs every expansion so it will be interesting to see which ones catch my eye during this go.

I had settled on AST as main but after learning of all the impending nerfs I figured there was no point continuing to play it, since EVERYTHING about how the job plays is going to change. So I've been playing RDM lately and aside from extra wait times I've been having fun. I might level my WAR from 70-80 first with ShB though, since that will likely get me the quickest queues.

I still can't believe the extent and depth of the nerfs to astro... reading down the list it seemed like every ability lost potency and several key features of the class have been deleted or detrimentally changed (e.g. Celestial Opposition, which was our only stun with the perk of adding a few extra seconds to buffs, now relegated to a simple minor group heal with a ridiculous 2min CD). I had read SE wanted to make healing a larger focus, but even our healing took some hits. Sigh.

I've been playing WHM since nobody would take DRG to Titan HM (or anywhere else). So I'm probably just going to switch back now that Holy's garbage and half of DRG's kit is AOEs.

I've been playing whm since the beginning, i switched to MCH for awhile but it made me pretty sad, i'm planning on taking up dancer and giving mch another go since its getting reworked /again/ but i'll still play whm, its my comfort zone.

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Originally Posted by Kukajoo

i'll still play whm, its my comfort zone.

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Heh same for me. :) I can be snuggled up in bed, head on pillow, eyes closed, and playing WHM - and it's only getting better!

Sleep, sleep, sleep on~