Commending DPS

My criteria is very simple players that say hello in the beginning of the run and say goodbye in the end of it if all say would commend all, since I can't need to do it randomly.

Not even sure why can't give more than 1 commendation.

Commendation system is fundamentally broken. You should either be able to commend EVERYONE who did good, or noone at all.

dps com is situational for me but usually when they get it, you can pretty much see why they get it, stuff like...
- tank being total derp/jerk
- DPS doing their utmost best to deal damage (proper rotation, ogcd skill use, even small detail like interupt enemy cast, etc etc)
- DPS who went ultra instinct at dodging enemy attack (as healer, sometimes you met this one dps who you rarely heal from start until finish because he never got hit aside from unavoidable damage, you know what i mean)
- Typical 90% wipe with only DPS standing and he manage to kill the enemy/boss
- Special occasion like all 3 of us is friend in RL / same guild, and this one dps (a.k.a outsider) join us, if he's friendly, i just give my com to him
- newbie DPS who just start his FF14 journey
- DRG who went lolDRG tradition in glorious way (my dps is DRG so i know the feel lol)

*i didnt mention healer because 80% i main healer so i almost never give com to healer

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Commendation system is fundamentally broken. You should either be able to commend EVERYONE who did good, or noone at all.

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this, they shoud just went with a popup window when DG run is over, with all your party member shown with a "thumb up" and a "X mark" button.

you recommend him? click the thumb up, no com for him? just click the X mark button, simple.

When playing tank I normally recommend the healer if I don't fear for my life.
When playing heal I normally recommend the tank if he is easy to heal and let me DPS without fearing for his life.
When playing dps I normally recommend my fellow dps if he gives me his support (songs, goads, etc) and mobs are dying super fast.

I'm not petty enough to make a specific list of criteria. As long as they aren't face-rolling and/or not playing their job like they are AFK. Anything more is extra-credit.

I pretty much always commend another bard lala. Is it shallow? Sure. Still do it though :P

I commend either for heroic feats like saves, or perfectionist runs with unusually high dps AND not failing a single mechanic. Both rather rare so the commendation usually goes to waste.

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Originally Posted by supergiz

I pretty much always commend another bard lala. Is it shallow? Sure. Still do it though :P

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Please do, please do. :3 Though you don't too often meet the same dps class in a dungeon.

If I do commend, it's pretty varied. I try seeing if the dps deserved it but more often than not people either die to every mechanic ever, attack random mobs in a group just to annoy the tank or neither use aoe nor goad/songs. (Seriously, the amount of Bards not using ANY song is disturbing. Not even refresh/tact but any song.)
So it usually either falls to the sprout healer who did a fine job healing those packs, or to the tank who did a good job pulling efficiently and saving us time.

Overall I think I mostly give it to sprouts to encourage them! And there are a lot lately.

Usually, I just give it to whoever annoys me the least. Fellow lalas get priority preference, but that's not a guaranteed commendation.

On that note, I kinda wish we had more commendation rewards.

This kinda topic appears every now and then, but my answer is still the same:
When everything goes fine, everyone done the job and usually tank-healer and dps-dps reciprocal commends is the fair thing.
I switch to someone else when something did happened. And no commend on some cases.

Funny enough I get more commends as a mnk than I do as tank/healer. Maybe because I aoe and use goad?

If they are higher on the aggro list than me, they get my comm.

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Originally Posted by JowyAtreides

If they are higher on the aggro list than me, they get my comm.

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High aggro doesn't mean high DPS. One point of being a good DPS means aggro management to make it easier for the tank to be in DPS stance.

I comment a DPS if:

he/she
- uses Goat/TP Song/Mana song without the need to remind them
- does AE when it's needed
- helps raising
- uses their abilitys (for example BRD songs, DMG Buffs)

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Originally Posted by Hugowulf

Funny enough I get more commends as a mnk than I do as tank/healer. Maybe because I aoe and use goad?

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As PLD I love Goad when spamming my aoe!

I always comm the other dps unless they are just bad.

smns who don't dot or bane, brds who don't use songs, ice mages or mages that have no concept of their rotation after about lvl 50, mnks/drgs who still single target on humungous pack pulls, nins with no ninjustsu or the dps who spend half their time in auto-attack only mode, yeah I see you lol. Sometimes its obvious as well when a tank or healer is duoboxing, no ones getting a comm then.

I have a few conditions for comms.

Do they say hello?
Are they friendly?
Are they doing a good job?

I usually try to give a comm to a dps over a healer or tank just because I know they get them much more rarely, but if the dps doesn't check any of those and a tank or healer does, the tank or heal will get it.

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Originally Posted by LyraMaru

High aggro doesn't mean high DPS. One point of being a good DPS means aggro management to make it easier for the tank to be in DPS stance.

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Fully aware, I'm just simple and not pretending that I see everything that another dps is doing at all times :D

To me, this is still a viable indication that unless they steal aggro from the tank, they're doing alright.

Truth be told, I play in a group of 3 or 4 most of the time and the spare person gets the commendation, whatever role they are, provided they didn't mess up.

Most of mine go to healer or tank unless I notice they are screwing up bad or just pissing me off.

I tend to notice Dragoons I don't have to heal a lot, and tend to give them the most commendations out of all the DPS I see. Especially when I notice they're getting the rotation right.

If the healer or tank are pissing me off but the DPS did fine, they get a commend.

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Originally Posted by Hugowulf

Funny enough I get more commends as a mnk than I do as tank/healer. Maybe because I aoe and use goad?

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Definitely something I've commed a DPS for, even though it should be expected. The number of people who just single target is outrageous, to say nothing of the fact that Goad may as well not exist for as often as people use it in dungeons.

I don't really give my comms based on job role. Maybe when I tank, since I put a lot of pressure on my healers I do tend to give it to them. It typically goes to whoever is not a robot in there. If you don't say hi at the beginning of the instance, you're pretty much eliminated for consideration right then and there. That's not to be an ass or anything, it just makes it easier for me to choose because most of time players do what they're supposed to do in dungeons.

I admittedly give a lot of pity comms though, especially in content where you are expected to fail mechanics if it's your first go. I just can't help but feel bad for the player that is really trying, but still gets one-shotted by something.

In short, my comm goes to the player I feel is the nicest one in the group.

I usually find that it goes most often to healers, then tanks, then dps.

I’m often surprised when I get a comm as dps, I figure it’s probably my glamour. :P

I generally commend someone at random, unless someone REALLY stood out. Like, if I do a raid or trial and we almost wipe but a healer survives to lb 3, they're getting my comm. If the party almost wipes but somebody solos the last few % of the boss and gets us a clear, they get my com. If there's a newbie int he party and someone is very helpful explaining things, I'll give htem the comm.

But it's ultimately rare for me that anyone stands out in a good way because when things are running smoothly I tend not to atribute it to one specific person, where as it's easier to pick out someone that's playing poorly like a dps that refuses to aoe etc.

It all depends on performance. If the other dps damage seems rather low i will not commend, or if the group in general is bad none get any.
Lately it has mostly been healers and tank i give them to except for the healers that die and dps more then heal... which i end up raising anyhow on my Red and i get no comms, lol

My priorities are generally based on encouraging behavior I want to see continue, this favors support roles first.

Number one - is the healer going to town with dps especially in AoE situations and healing primarily via oGCDs and regens? They'll get my comm.

If they aren't/ if I'm the healer - is the tank pulling big, using his CDs smartly and primarily in his dps stance on bosses? He's getting commed.

If neither of these are happening or if I'm queued as one support role and with the person in the other I'll generally give it to the dps that is properly AoEing. The only dungeons I tend to do anymore are Expert, if by then you can't manage to outdps a healer something is wrong.

I'll generally commend anyone who has been nice and polite, anyone who owns up to screwing up and helpful people. I also reserve a spot for sprouts or anyone else who announces they are new to the content, because it really makes all the difference. I also like people who ask for help and try their best, so will commend them if it works out that way.

After that, I'll specifically commend DPS if things are dying in a timely manner, and if, in the case of bards, they use support skills, or just make me think about how I play my main.

Any healer that repeatedly saves my backside from the stupid bad day I'm having has my comm and undying loyalty forever. They should and could just keep their MP, but if they are on top of things they have my vote! <3 Also healers who handle stupid from others well.

I've stopped commending tanks recently as they don't live up to my hubby (but I am biased). Frankly, I'd probably just keep giving him comms over anyone else, so it's a good thing the system has that restriction in place. :rolleyes: That said, if a tank does an outstanding job and actually considers its team well, they could get a comm.

After that, it could be anything from amusing-yet-daft names to smexy male au ra. I'm easy.

I will say when playing with either my kid or hubby, we tend to discuss who gets the comm and split our vote if it all went well. When all three of us play together if the fourth person does well or keeps us happy, they'll walk away with three comms.

Lastly, and though this is mostly in trials but can also be dungeons, it'll just be whoever's left standing and meets any of the above criteria.

Did they take excessive damage, did they AoE, did they show some general knowledge of how thier class worked, Were they nice.

if no to any but the first no comm

Nowadays it's usually the only one who greets and writes gg/bye/thankyou at the end - or at least uses an relating emote - who will get my commending. Sadly, simple courtesy seem to be dead.

For me if all 3 roles performed well, it'll be Tank>Healer>Dps

Points are deducted if you don't pull multiple packs, don't dps as a healer or don't aggro manage/aoe as DPS, so the remaining role that didn't lose any points get the commend.

I commend the person who was the most influential in making the dungeon clear go fast. I don't limit myself to commending any person based on role. Sometimes it's a healer that not only keeps a tank alive, but adds considerable dps to killing trash. Sometimes it's a tank that pulls cleanly and with gusto, uses cooldowns, and makes life easier for healers and dps alike to maximize party jobs effectively. I'll even com dps who go above and beyond just looking to take care of themselves; this means using those role actions effectively to bring a swift conclusion to a dungeon. In short, I com people that deserve to be.

When I’m a tank, I’ll usualy commend a healer.

When I’m a healer, the DPS who gets my commend is the DPS I *didn’t* notice. If I didn’t notice you, it’s because you were where you were supposed to be doing what you were supposed to be doing.

When I’m a DPS, I’ll usually commend whoever partners with me on mechanics (dodges, tethers, buffs, or whatever else).

It's not uncommon for me to finish and exit a raid/dungeon/trial (as a healer) without commending anyone at all. Typically I go into them with certain expectations (the tank holds aggro on trash mobs, DPS uses AoEs when necessary, people stay out of enemy AoEs, etc.) I won't commendate people just for playing decently unless the rest of the party is utter garbage and they're the only other person who is legit not giving me a headache.

A DPS is more likely to get my commendation if I see them actually do mechanics and isn't face-tanking every avoidable thing. But that's my minimal criteria. Unless I'm having to constantly throw out raises/was killed, I don't expect Refresh/ Mana Shift- but when someone is throwing those out liberally (as necessary) I will take note. For that reason, Ranged DPS/Casters have an innate advantage for my comm.

If anything, I'm more critical of healers/my co-healer in deciding if they'll get the commendation, but by default it's usually in their favor simply due to the higher stress/awareness required for their role. But if I get paired with a 2nd AST composition and they don't overwrite my Expanded buff more than once (the 1st one I'll assume is an accident) and also heals in the opposite sect effectively, you'll be hard-pressed to earn that commendation over that other AST.

As a DPS my comms tend to go to the healers though, especially if I was healed through/Rescued/shielded for something I should have avoided/could have killed me. The only other time I can recall commendating another DPS is if both healers were just bad at staying alive/healing and if I can recall said DPS essentially avoiding as much unnecessary damage as possible or constantly having to raise the healers.

I never commend DPS.

As long as they are actually helping, or are new and trying I give it to my fellow DPS. If they constantly lag behind (non-cut scene reasons) or seem to just auto it goes to healer or tank.

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

I never commend DPS.

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A lot of people seem to have this attitude, which is why I almost always commend DPS (unless they are doing a terrible job...). I make it a policy never to commend anyone who blatantly asks for it however. If I hear a "Don't forget to commend your healers/tank! ^^" It's a sure way NOT to get my comm! lol

I commend based on several things: First they have to still be there after I push the loot button. If they manage to pass that amazing step, I see if anybody stood out as a quality player...which could be anything from being polite and friendly to rezzing me when I did something stupid without bitching about it. If there is only one person left, they get it unless they pissed me off.

My issue with commending DPSes is that most of the time I honestly have no idea how well they did.

If they didn't do something to stand out, I don't know which one did better, and don't know who deserves it. Even more in eight-man content.



On the receiving end, I seem to get comms a lot while leveling black mage, presumably for getting the basic rotation right(ish).

Also the other night we had a new tank who wasn't picking up enemies properly, so I was targeting the enemies going for the healer. (I'd commend someone for the same thing if I was the healer.)



I wish you could indicate why you commended someone though. Just a few tickboxes like 'you played well', 'you gave good advice', or 'I like your costume'.

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Originally Posted by GomJabbar

I make it a policy never to commend anyone who blatantly asks for it however. If I hear a "Don't forget to commend your healers/tank! ^^" It's a sure way NOT to get my comm! lol

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Same. Surefire way to lose my commendation if I just was about to give it to you.

By the same token, I don't like to commend the 'last person standing' just because they haven't left yet, if I didn't intend to give it to them otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Zorvan

Commendation system is fundamentally broken. You should either be able to commend EVERYONE who did good, or noone at all.

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Were you that kid that was happy when they got their participation trophy in grade school? Commendations are earned son.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't like to commend the 'last person standing' just because they haven't left yet, if I didn't intend to give it to them otherwise.

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I have no problem doing that as long as they didn't piss me off. That means they were playing well enough to not cause any huge bumps in the road....and frankly in randos that's awesome.

It usually depends on what i see from the healer. If the healer goes out of SP alot quicker than it should, i do tend to look at the health of the dps and the tank more.
At that point either the tank is doing something wrong, the dps is getting to much damage or the healer is not using his SP correctly.
Depending on that, someone will get the commendation :D

But i do have to agree it also depends heavily on role of myself.
When a tank, its alot easier to see wether the offtank is doing a good job. When a dps, you know what you are doing so its easier to judge wether the other dps is doing enough.
Healer i dont play to often.

Have to agree commendations for dps are a good bit more rare than for healer and tank ofcourse for obvious reasons. Less healer/tanks played make them more "valuable" than dps and people want to encourage them by it. Dps is mostly seen as the "easy" task in PvE (mostly coming from experience in other mmorpg's) and ofcourse the type of people youre partied with.

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Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu

I've seen posts in Reddit an these forums of DPS players claiming they would usually or always commend the other dps. However, when I tank or heal, I usually get more than one commendation. So that leaves one dps without a commendation, especially during times when all party members have contributed to exceptionally wonderful dungeon/trial runs.

So I present this question to you, especially DPS mains:

What conditions would you normally commend other DPS players after you clear the instance?

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When the player is nice and talks during an instance. I also tend to commend lalafell because I've got to show support for my favorite race. :D