Character Customization Moving Forward into Shadowbringer

I don’t think the Hrothgar have eyebrows.

When I made my first character I was disappointed with the lack of options for all the races. The whole system is dated and in need of an overhaul, but, if I could just have some more male Hyur (as that's what I went with) faces , I would be contempt.

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Originally Posted by Hazmick

Also more ear customisation for Elezen <^_^>

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Seconded! I would kill for more traditionally styled elf ears, like something from LoZ, or LoTR.

And besides more faces, what I'd REALLY like, is to have separate make up layers. I just want to have freckles and eyeliner.

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Originally Posted by zombunnies

Seconded! I would kill for more traditionally styled elf ears, like something from LoZ, or LoTR.

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...but isn't that what they have already?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

...but isn't that what they have already?

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Not really no. In the things I mentioned, their ears are more pressed against their heads, like actual ears. In FFXIV Elezen ears stick OUT. Also, in LoZ especally, their ears taper dramatically and are far more narrow at the tips. While Elezen ears are more blunt.

A better red hair color. The options we have now only range from pinkish-red to brownish-red. I just want red.

Longer hair styles, long wavy hairstyles, more hair color options. Actual red lip color and hair color (like the little mermaids hair color)

The ability to use more then one face paint at the same time.

Even though I'm pretty much 100% happy with how i look currently, More face options and separate faces and horns would be nice.

make garlean a hyur subrace

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

make garlean a hyur subrace

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That's one of the few character choices that would directly conflict with lore, unless they changed it somehow, because garleans don't play nice with magic (hence they needed to invent magitek).

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Originally Posted by zeylos

Once they finish what they have already done and remove genderlock, then we should start talking about existing races, but before adding more finish what you've already got

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We're not gonna wait till 6.0 or 7.0 for that.

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Originally Posted by zeylos

Once they finish what they have already done and remove genderlock, then we should start talking about existing races, but before adding more finish what you've already got

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It's the other way around; we shouldn't get male viera and female hrothgar (or indeed, female viera and male hrothgar) until we see more customization for the other races.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I swear they responded to this over a year ago or more. Didnt they say something akin to the more options a character has the more stress it puts on the server memory load or something and thats why they hadnt included any new options beyond that spider face tattoo way-back when....?

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The problem with the game and why we don’t have more options is that every character is loaded into the server as something like race=hyur face=4 scarOption=false. The more character creation options are added, the more entries need to be added to each character. This is why hyur and roegadyn have muscle sliders when no one else does, since they’re more basic and don’t have tail/ear sliders.

They said they could add more options, but they would need to turn down the amount of PCs you see on the screen at one time. Maybe after the data center splits they’ll look more into it but at this point I’m not holding my breath.

The reason we don’t have more sliders is part of the above, part of what’s been said before about players making grotesque characters, and partly that the equipment in the game wasn’t meant to be stretched like it is in other MMOs. It would ruin the way the gear looks. That’s also why we’re unlikely to see new body types.

I wish we could have a butt slider but even if we can't, ffxiv is the best mmo i ever played and i've seen worse so i'm happy with what we have!

I'd like to see more variety in the faces for females of all races. Generally the 4 face options for males are pretty distinct, but the ladies all seem to be subtle tweaks to the same basic face. I'd also like more proper scar options for the them. I had to lose my cool big scar when I swapped my male Roe to a female. The only option looked like a little scratch. A few more short and shaggy hair options would be cool too.

For years I have tried... partially unsuccessfully... to make my main male character look exactly like this:

https://i.imgur.com/tpQrcd3.png

One day... one day...

1. I would like a crossbreed section that would allow you to edit your preferred race with features of another race such as replacing your Hyur's ears with Elezen or Miqote ears or even Au Ra horns. It would also have an option for Au Ra and Miqote tails, Miqote facial markings and optional Au Ra face and body scales.

2. Faces. Add new faces and repurpose other faces like SE has with some NPCs. Doesn't the Hyur from the anima quest line use a female Au Ra face 1?

Ardashirhttps://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160104140104
https://i.imgur.com/xbCYfn1.png

And one of the thespians NPCs looks like a male hyur that uses a female midlander face.

3. Add a multitude of longer hairstyles and greatly expand on facial hair. Both are severely lacking in FFXIV. While we're on the subject, please add more NPC hairstyles.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=h...efault.jpg&f=1

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

make garlean a hyur subrace

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As Thefates said earlier, this wouldn't really work with Garlean lore (not being able to use magic), but also that it would be awkward for storytelling when they're "the enemy" - either a lot of things need to be rewritten to acknowledge/explain it, or everyone ignores it entirely. but then again I've said the same thing about a beastlike playable race, and look where we are with that...

It's worth pointing out that the few racial Garlean characters we meet in Eorzea (only Cid, Nero and Lucia, as far as I can remember) tend to keep their third eye concealed so they can pass as Hyuran.

But also, Garleans aren't "just" a Hyuran subrace, because a lot of them use Elezen models instead. They're somewhere inbetween, and for the most part they haven't been created as a functioning race with their own models and animations, but are borrowed from other races. (The notable exceptions being Varis and Zenos, who are apparently fully unique models rather than customisable NPCs.)

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Originally Posted by Tanama

2. Faces. Add new faces and repurpose other faces like SE has with some NPCs. Doesn't the Hyur from the anima quest line use a female Au Ra face 1?

Ardashirhttps://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160104140104
https://i.imgur.com/xbCYfn1.png

And one of the thespians NPCs looks like a male hyur that uses a female midlander face.

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Even though they're repurposing other NPC faces for these characters, they're still programmed as unique faces - presumably it's just a shortcut they can use to get started. It's not just a hidden setting that can apply the other NPC's face elements. As far as I can tell from browsing character data, they're not applying Au Ra face #2 with eyes #5 and nose #1, they're applying an all-in-one custom face that is shaped like those elements.

Probably a good indication for what's going on, or at least my guess at it, is the data for the Scions. As far as I can tell, their actual faces use generic settings for that race, but they have the customised Sharlayan tattoos. If you look at their character data, it doesn't reflect the actual settings that create their appearance - everything is left at Face #1 and all the other settings at #1. So I'm guessing they've built the character, transferred the appearance to a custom face (however they do that) and then added the unique tattoos.



Thanks for pointing out Ardashir = Au Ra #1 though. Since I realised that some of the Au Ra faces are reused as unique NPCs, I've been trying to place the rest of them!

And from those screenshots of Hilda, I'm thinking she might have face #3. Was looking at that last night thinking it looked familiar but couldn't place the character... will have to play around with that later. Good reference shots anyway.

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...c76835c30d.jpg

Muscle sliders.

I want abs that are visible outside of particular casting animations, lighting and camera angles.

Make lip colors more opaque and less shiny so they actually look like the color I've picked from the chart. I find that if you pick any other skintone besides the palest white, most of the lipstick colors just turn into a muddy brown or a REALLY muted version of the color. Lemme wear vibrant red lipstick!

Also let us pick more than one face paint option at a time. Maybe even make the eye makeup that certain faces have as a "facial feature" option available for ALL faces so we don't have to spend our face paint slot on eyeshadow.

And more long hairstyles please, literally nobody cares about clipping at this point. :(

+ let us choose our eyebrow color instead of automatically making it the same as the hair.

I agree with all the points the OP raised. I also think that all races should get a muscle slider and that au ra badly need some scar options.

Long hair cut.
More faces.
Tatoo option for the body and not just the face?

I just want hair colors to match the color palette(try to make a legit redhead using ARR races*you can't as the redhead orange turns hair brown for some reason*, then do it with Au Ra)

Also fix Elezen's head size and their necks. In some situations their neck looks completely broken. Elezen's head to body ratio remind me of the goombas in the 1993 Super Mario Bros. film.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...62/unknown.png

We really need that Derplander stubble.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

I wish we could have a butt slider but even if we can't, ffxiv is the best mmo i ever played and i've seen worse so i'm happy with what we have!

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I'm pretty sure they stated that those kinds of sliders would never happen because they would have to remake all the armors.

I really want more tail and ear options.
Always wanted a short bob cat tail for my miqo.
ALSO NPC HAIRSTYLES I WANT YOTSUYUS HAIRRRR!!!

And Cid's beard.

I understand wanting to keep NPCs unique but what is stopping the Warrior of Light and other WoLs from wanting to style their hair like those said NPCs?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...48/unknown.png

Body Scars! I want so many!
Body Tattoos would be cool too.
Tattoos for specific areas of lore or racial tattoos or class/job oriented tattoos that you can unlock would be especially neat.

I'm a suncat and I would love the option to have some fangs. even just little ones.

my xeala alt would look amazing with black scalera.
I know a bunch of raen girls would like to also have blue tongues like the guys.

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Originally Posted by sol3il

Always wanted a short bob cat tail for my miqo.

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That would be incredibly cute! I support your bobtail Miqo'te dreams.

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Originally Posted by MidnightS

A better red hair color. The options we have now only range from pinkish-red to brownish-red. I just want red.

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Orange hair also looks kind of weird on most of the races.

My short list:

1. More face models and jaw/eye/nose/mouth parts to play with.
2. Body scars and tattoos.
3. Selectable horns for Au Ra.
4. Scale colors for Au Ra.
5. A butt that isn't as flat as Steven Tyler's (doesn't have to be customizable, but an overall increase on the base body and gear would make a huge difference).
6. Fangs for Seekers.

I don't expect a massive revolution of the character creator, but I think everyone can agree it's severely lacking in places.

Besides just appearance options, I'd like some of the gestures and motions from other genders to be unlocked. Like the 2nd female DRK idle stance for the males and vice-versa. I'd even be ok with purchasing a motion pack from other races. Like a midlander having the ability to idle, stand and run like a miqote'. It would really allow for more customization of our characters. If a 10-year old game like Aion can do this, I don't see why FFXIV can't.

Other than that more hairstyles, eyes, mouths, face and body shapes and beards/stubble for men.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

Also fix Elezen's head size and their necks. In some situations their neck looks completely broken.

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Where there are issues where the head/neck is misaligned, it's certainly worth fixing (one such example was shared just after a fanfest, where the head and neck angle is clearly misaligned on the male when in a specific battle stance).

If your issue is that you don't like the proportions? Those are what SE wanted and there is nothing to "fix."

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Originally Posted by Berethos

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Yes, I hope that misaligned neck is fixed and a return to the Elezen head size of 1.0. When SE redid everything for 2.0, Elezen head size seemed to have shrunk a little bit like the downsize of everyone's behind.

Oh, I also wish we could at least preview hairstyles we don't have on the aesthetician. I'm thinking about getting the Y'shtola outfit JUST for the hairstyle, but I'm not sold on it yet and it would be way easier if I could preview it on my character with different outfits.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

Yes, I hope that misaligned neck is fixed and a return to the Elezen head size of 1.0. When SE redid everything for 2.0, Elezen head size seemed to have shrunk a little bit like the downsize of everyone's behind.

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I have the 1.0 benchmark.

They are the same size.

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Originally Posted by Enla

1. More than two faces for female Elezen. Consolidate the makeup versions and turn that makeup into an option we can pick along with the scars.

2. Clean up the meshes for female Highlanders. Half of them are boxy or just plain unfinished looking.

3. GIVE FEMALE MIQO'TE MORE EAR WIGGLES D: (Not a character creation thing but it always bugged me that the guys get ear wiggles for most of their emotes and we only have a few options that allow for it.)

4. Saturate the hair colors for the original races. There's a pretty stark difference between red hair for the starter races and, say, Au'ra.

5. Customizable horns for Au'ra. It sucks that the best faces often have the WORST horns and vice versa.

6. Let us pick two make up options. Sometimes I want eye shadow /and/ a tattoo from the makeup list. Especially on races/faces that don't come with build in eyeshadow.

7. Actually commit to the clipping and give us longer hair please. After the Princess Outfit was released on the Mog Station which clipped for all races but Lalafell, I don't think they have a leg to stand on when it comes to clipping anymore.

8. Delete Female Miqo'te Voice 5 from the game.

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Voice 5 is the cutest voice.

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Originally Posted by zeylos

Once they finish what they have already done and remove genderlock, then we should start talking about existing races, but before adding more finish what you've already got

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Then other races should be first then. The new ones can wait since everyone else were here first. By using your logic anyway.:/

I just want my butts. We are getting a nier raid, I want my nier butts. 300k polygons please.