To all you successful FC leaders... How did you do it?

You're comparing yourself to Napoleon. Dude~ you play a video game where you're riding around the world on a cartoon chicken trying to stop an evil moon wizard.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Nevermind. I reposted it.

Seriously, please, don't accuse me of trolling. People get banned for that stuff. I'm completely serious.

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Aha....threatening with a ban? Very well. I'm done with this thread anyhow. Seriously, I'm completely done with this thread. Adieu, good ser.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

I'm not threatening anything. I was saying that I might get banned because people would think I'm a troll.

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People already think you're a tr....you know what, nevermind. Not wasting another daily post on this thread.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Aha....threatening with a ban? Very well. I'm done with this thread anyhow. Seriously, I'm completely done with this thread. Adieu, good ser.

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I'm not threatening anything. I was saying that I might get banned because people would think I'm a troll.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Annnnddd, this confirms the trolling. And my interest in this thread has now evaporated faster than Bee's FC losing members.

...oh, too soon?

I'll see myself out now.

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...thanks for saving that post, Kaiva - I owe you!

Wether or not that guy is trolling or just dellusional doesnt matter, because its pretty clear that words are actually wasted on him.

So, for everyone seeking real advice on how to keep an FC together (I dont know, people might google that to look for real advice and will not only find that but also some serious amusement in this thread) - I stand by what I said: Create a help- and useful community with yourself in the middle - not at the top. Network, make sure you get to know your members on an appropriate ingame-level, offer help, advice, fast queues, gears and FC-activities like maps and primal-farms.

You seem to be under a massive delusion that you're special, OP.

You're not.

You want to be some sort of big-shot FC leader.

The first step is to become a big shot.

30 million gil? Just last week I gave away multiple sets of pentamelded crafted battlegear probably totalling to over 300 million in value. 30 million gil is chump change for anyone who wants to be deemed as "someone". I can PRODUCE that much value in a week, on a whim. You took 6 months to ACQUIRE that much. And I'm nowhere near the top of the economic ladder of my server.

What about raiding? I see no logs with you name on it.. I'm going to assume you're lacking in this category as well. Probably gonna beg for some carries as well..

So put me in the position of a prospective member: Why the hell would I give you my "loyalty?"

You offer NOTHING. You ARE nothing.

You TAKE TAKE TAKE, but have nothing to GIVE.

Good FC leaders are Givers, not Takers.

No Free Company under your leadership will ever be worth anything outside of a few snickers from what few people are going to be aware of you.

Who would want to join that?

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

I'm one of them.

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If this was the case, your fc wouldn’t be a flop. And the ego thing is completely wrong. I am an officer (technically 3rd in command) in my FC. My leader and my fellow officers are not egotistical. Our FC has flourished over the years. People hate people that are full of themselves. The more you talk, the more I see why you are failing. I would leave too. I wouldn’t want to be associated with someone who thinks being a beggar is okay and not actually working to earn your money legitimately. Instead you feed off of the work of someone else. Disgusting. Your ego is toxic, in my opinion. It’s just not someone I would want for my leader, and it sounds like other share this sentiment.

You want “practical” advice and not be sermoned into a kinder or “morally-upright” person, but newsflash sweetie... No sane person wants an immoral, arrogant person as their leader. The fact you say you’re “forced” to do things for others, especially your fc members, and expect something in return shows you do not deserve to be a leader. If you keep your attitude, you’re only gonna keep failing.

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Originally Posted by loaded-god-complex

You're comparing yourself to Napoleon. Dude~ you play a video game where you're riding around the world on a cartoon chicken trying to stop an evil moon wizard.

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I legit laughed out loud at this. Thank you for such a wonderful comment.

I get a lot of help from my good friend, Jack Daniel's, to help run my FC ;p

Sometimes he brings his friends, Jim Beam and Johnny Walker, when times really get rough

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

There's one thing that you're wrong about. Most of what you said is good and helpful, and I thank you for that. But you're wrong about one thing.

Any community, whether online or offline, social or business, needs an egomaniacal leader. History will tell you this as well, not just me. The greatest military leader of all time, surpassing Caesar and Alexander, is Napoleon Bonaparte. He's my childhood hero. He wasn't a perfect man but his ego knows no bounds. Yet despite his ego, he was well-loved by his own soldiers. They remained loyal to the bitter end, even after his one-year abdication to Elba. His secret? Well, that's a lot of things. It's complicated. But the point is, his ego drove him to greatness. I have a fondness for the man because I'm the same way. And my experience tells me that greatness in leadership is not gained through purely morally upright motivations, but through sheer willpower and arrogance. The secret is to learn how to hide this arrogance when it counts, and flaunt it when the time to show-off is ripe.

You're talking to someone who have earned over 30 million gil throughout his 7 months of playing, half of which were gained by socializing alone. That's 15 million gil gained through sheer social skills. And wanna know something else? Before buying my FC house, I had 200k gil. I went to the house plot and hustled a nearby player who eventually gave me enough to get the plot for myself.

I created this thread to get practical advice, NOT to be sermoned to become a kinder, "purer", morally-upright person. My intentions for my FC is for my own benefit. But who cares? I'm forced to do things for others' benefit as well, so no harm done.

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You're best facilitated with an FC of one.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

You're best facilitated with an FC of one.

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Practical advice.

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Originally Posted by RuleofThree

Where are they?

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I couldn't point them out on your server cause I don't play on Coeurl. On Gilgamesh we have several large and many smaller FC's that are pretty good.
For your situation, I don't deny you had some bad experiences with FCs, but at the same time, I don't know if they were actually bad FCs or you just expected to much or if you have a personality that rubs everyone else the wrong way because I don't know you.

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Originally Posted by van_arn

Practical advice.

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You realise you just quoted yourself immediately after your own posted that? You forget what you look like and your own name? lol (just poking fun)

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You realise you just quoted yourself immediately after your own posted that? You forget what you look like and your won name? lol (just poking fun)[/QUOTE]

I am way too lazy to edit on mobile

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

My goal in the Mateus server is to first earn 180 million gil so that I can fund a 30-man army who'd conquer Ul'dah through roleplaying. (Mateus is a roleplaying server) That's 6 million gil per year per person.

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That might take a while :D

Also 6 million gil a year is chump change, they could earn more than that much just by using your expert panhandling methods in half the time. \o/

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

You're talking to someone who have earned over 30 million gil throughout his 7 months of playing, half of which were gained by socializing alone. That's 15 million gil gained through sheer social skills.

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Easily the best thread here.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

I'm one of them.

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No you aren't...or are you? I think...yes...yes I feel your incredible charisma and dominating social skills winning me over. You are, aren't you? You are the chosen one? The masiah, the God of FFXIV! Please sir...take my - on no...no wait..my mistake.

You know, you should go play EVE. it's an MMO built on building corperations, and conquering other ones. Youtube EVE and 'business wars' That's where you tant to take your egotistical megalomania. You'd get eaten alive there, but that's where your personality best fits in...not here.

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Originally Posted by Thamorian

I couldn't point them out on your server cause I don't play on Coeurl. On Gilgamesh we have several large and many smaller FC's that are pretty good.
For your situation, I don't deny you had some bad experiences with FCs, but at the same time, I don't know if they were actually bad FCs or you just expected to much or if you have a personality that rubs everyone else the wrong way because I don't know you.

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Probably the first one (bad experiences), and probably the last one (not a likable person, I guess? depressing if that is the case, honestly), but it's absolutely not the second...that I expected too much. I don't think it's 'asking too much' to get an invite from a person after agreeing to help in roulettes, or to go on treasure hunts that I was asked to come along in, or for the FC to acknowledge I exist at all.

Since you are so good at hustling other players out of money, perhaps consider paying people a weekly allowance to be in your FC? I can't imagine anyone would want to join and stay for free.

I am one of the leaders of the FC I am in. We have just over 400 members the last time I looked. We hold monthly meetings with the FC and and with officers and high council. Every month there we vote someone as member of the month. We have people who run treasure map runs every so often, mount farming, help people get clears on content, we even have auctions every so often to raise gil. We at times supply the raid teams with raid food. We do not allow drama, and if any comes up we are quick to take care of it.

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Originally Posted by Bahati

Since you are so good at hustling other players out of money, perhaps consider paying people a weekly allowance to be in your FC? I can't imagine anyone would want to join and stay for free.

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But then he'd just induce them into giving the money back.

He's the WoL that tempers other adventurers

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

Because I have a leadership fetish.

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There's your problem.

People are here to play a game, not to indulge your fetish.

Good show, keep it going....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

There's your problem.

People are here to play a game, not to indulge your fetish.

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Very well said... very well said indeed. +1

Get good people treat them as family.

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Originally Posted by Super_Bee_Brian

I guess the real question is... Why the heck are you a king if you're a woman? You do realize that women are incapable of leadership, right?

(Not serious)

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Are you still wondering why people don't want to be in your FC? Are you really this obtuse? It's the same reasons the last time you posted. You didn't listen then, what's changed that's gonna make you listen now?

By being the only member.

Obvious troll post is obvious.
Don't feed the troll. >w>

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Obvious troll post is obvious.
Don't feed the troll. >w>

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(Although, there's some good advice about being a good FC leader from other posters in here... )