Suggestion: For Rising 2019

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

This seems to be the most misunderstood bit of information about 1.0.

All 1.0 characters received a tattoo, or legacy mark as it is called.

However, not all 1.0 accounts have "Legacy" status. To get that (and in turn the legacy chocobo and cheaper subscription rate) you had to have paid for 90 days during a specific period of time.

So basically Legacy tattoo does not mean they have a legacy account. It doesn't help that they both have legacy in their names though.

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Oh, so the tattoo didn't even need you to pay a sub, just have a character?

So there really would be no issue, since you just had to exist for 5 minutes?

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Originally Posted by Aerlana

They lied,
When yoshida said "no housing destruction" he lied

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There were actually a lot of us here on the forums at the time who asked for that change, and for good reason. He gave us what we wanted. Just because it doesn’t line up with what was said before personal housing was implemented doesn’t mean we were knowingly lied to. Wards were absolute ghost towns before demolition came along. I distinctly remember having neighbors who hadn’t logged on in over a year, wards full and houses unused. This game just doesn’t have a player turnover that can support no demolition timer or even a rare timer. I agree with you that they have lied in the past, but not about this.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

Oh, so the tattoo didn't even need you to pay a sub, just have a character?

So there really would be no issue, since you just had to exist for 5 minutes?

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? He just said that you needed to pay a sub. What are you talking about?

Since I doubt body hair will ever be a thing, I would not mind seeing a body hair glamour that functions the same way as the tattoo. On a side note are people really that upset about a five year old item being given out as a reward?

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

There were actually a lot of us here on the forums at the time who asked for that change, and for good reason. He gave us what we wanted. Just because it doesn’t line up with what was said before personal housing was implemented doesn’t mean we were knowingly lied to. Wards were absolute ghost towns before demolition came along. I distinctly remember having neighbors who hadn’t logged on in over a year, wards full and houses unused. This game just doesn’t have a player turnover that can support no demolition timer or even a rare timer. I agree with you that they have lied in the past, but not about this.

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*look at the 72 wards, 144 if we make different between basis and annex* oh yes, nothing ghost now :)

Take a ward with only FC houses, add like 4-5 spot where you have instance personnal houses. and miracle, everyone can get house, no destruction required, no need of 72 wards, and so no need to call ghostbuster...

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Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko

? He just said that you needed to pay a sub. What are you talking about?

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The tattoo was if you had a legacy character ported over from 1.0 to 2.0, and did not require you to pay a sub for it. The paid items were the reduced sub cost and the chocobo.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

you just had to exist for 5 minutes?

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You had to exist BEFORE Bahamut escaped/Dalamud exploded. The tattoo is because of the teleportation spell used to teleport us forward in time. No teleport, no tattoo.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

You had to exist BEFORE Bahamut escaped/Dalamud exploded. The tattoo is because of the teleportation spell used to teleport us forward in time. No teleport, no tattoo.

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But I want it now and it'd be fun. D: And maybe I went forward in time then came back.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

But I want it now

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Feel like hearing a 3 years old x)

I would like a billion dollars now because it would be fun, but it won't happen. Just like the calamity tat won't happen if you didn't play 1.0. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko

Feel like hearing a 3 years old x)

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Sadly, it is the people who act like 3 year olds who are listened to and given what they ask for.

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Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko

Feel like hearing a 3 years old x)

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Hmm? If you wanna hear a 3 year old there are places like a day care. XD

If that's how you feel.

Actually, what they should have done is, added a status you can turn on or off like the "New Adventurer" and "Mentor" status with icon, and you know what icon us 1.0 players need beside our names? A pretty Dalamud (Exactly like the minion just smaller) that glows a soft red.


Make it happen!

Here ya go champ! Remember to follow the directions for best results :^)

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...6959984db6.jpg

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...144083e713.jpg

I'd rather they just add tattoos and body scars in the character creation, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

So since we got the great White Ravens from people who played 1.0, I thought I'd make this request. Can we get the tattoo on our characters next Rising Event too? I'd love to get a tattoo back there.

If you can't make it for the event, I'll buy it on the mog station too. So please?

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The chocobo, tattoo, reduced sub and name in credits were the only actual legacy items and they should indeed stay as such.

The rest of the stuff from v1, like the earrings were not part of the legacy package. So if SE just gives the tattoo and/or choco away they will be loosing a lot of face when it comes to any future promises of the kind they make.

They can add all the tattoos they want, but that one needs to remain exclusive.

Adding additional tattoo options seems like a better choice than opening up perks explicitly designated for legacy players to non-legacy players.

Nobody will see it unless you just run around shirtless. What’s the point?

No. Just no.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Lying is not "normal" and shouldn't be excused just because other people also lie.

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I'm sure you've lied at least once or twice in your lifetime about something, whether it was a little white lie or a bigger one. It's human nature to lie. I'm not excusing it, but that's reality. There's no such thing as a completely, 100% "honest" person.

Parents will lie, children will lie, teachers will lie, friends will lie. It is a completely normal facet of human interaction and behavior. It's part of life. Lying can only be considered not "normal" when you're dealing with someone who has a compulsion to do nothing but lie whenever they speak to you with the sole intention of harming you while bringing self-satisfaction towards themselves.

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Ok, so what your sitting here trying to tell me is that the players of 1.0 had nothing to do with the game continuing on and we were only beta testers? ok.... lol
Hate to break this to you, but SE would've never looked at the game twice if nobody was playing it. Only reason Yoshi-P got singed on to remake the game was because of us who stayed.

But believe whatever you like cookie.

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You played the game in its early stages and were unceremoniously used as the beta testers, unfortunately that's correct. Sorry, but that's the break of it whether you agree with it or not. The game continued onto the ARR stage because you were still around so yes, you're right about that.

However, after ARR became a successful hit, more often than not, the 1.0 players were no longer the nuts and bolts that held the ship up any longer and if a few of you dropped your subs, it no longer meant the end to SE with the new rise and influx of other players. The game simply does not revolve around you anymore, it revolves around the entire community. The 1.0 players are not the entire community, merely a part of it. A part of the clockwork.

And you completely misheard what I had said, even if the 1.0 players had stayed on and they didn't sign Yoshi-P, they could have signed on another terrible director in which the game would have gone down in flames regardless if the 1.0 players stuck around or not if he was just as terrible or even worse. It's a combination of 1.0 players and Yoshi-P that provided favorable circumstances, but the 1.0 players didn't solely do all of the work in which you're trying to elevate that you did.

And please, leave the immature condescending name-calling out. It's not needed for something so simple as differing opinions.

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Originally Posted by Aerlana

They lied,
When yoshida said "no housing destruction" he lied (and also, he did " a thing from the past"... i think he regrets to said such strong sentence...)

But, if SE only knows how to lie to people, what the difference between them or activision, or Electronic arts?
If you live as a paranoid people, that consider everyone will lie to you, it is your matter. Me i consider people will try to do what they say, because a world where everyone lie is a world about to die.

I prefer glorify people staying honest, and spit on others.

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It's not paranoia, it's called being realistic. The world is not always going to be a nice place and pretending that it is, by sugarcoating, and thinking that people will always be nice or never steer you wrong sets you up to be incredibly naive and you'll fall harder when people actually do say or do awful things.

There's a difference between living in an bubble and then living in a shield. One is more stable than the other. I chose the shield because it allows me to make good judge of characters without necessarily allowing myself to be emotionally or mentally harmed by being 100% invested into something and taking everything at face value.

Always think positive, but never always expect 100% perfect results. Stuff happens, it's best not to be discouraged by the small stuff. But, it's also good not to be naive and completely believe everything that you see or hear at face value either.

I have a tattoo, and I'd be ok if everyone just got one tomorrow for free! The concept of gaining joy from other people not having things is a weird concept to me. Heck. I don't feel like I earned the tatoo. I have it, because I was a Warcraft fan and because of that--wanted to play every MMO that came out. I didn't do anything special to get it. I did suffer through the garbage fire that was 1.0 for all of 3 days?

As for gear that shows it off? Oh, there's a lot! And people like myself with the tattoo will often make it work. The Hannish wool dress is great for showing it off. The camsies all show it off. The fashion report shirt does. The Christmas dress from the mog station shows it off. The swee swee set. Almost all swimsuits. Harnesses. The real kicker isn't the outfit--it's the long hair. Female with a tattoo? Welcome to the tomboy haircut club!

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Ok, so what your sitting here trying to tell me is that the players of 1.0 had nothing to do with the game continuing on and we were only beta testers? ok.... lol
Hate to break this to you, but SE would've never looked at the game twice if nobody was playing it. Only reason Yoshi-P got singed on to remake the game was because of us who stayed.

But believe whatever you like cookie.

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Just wondering what does that have to do with anything? Do 1.0 players want a cookie for sticking with a broken game? What is the relevance of being a 1.0 player in patch 4.0 and beyond? I mean truth be told beta tester is generous, I would say many 1.0 players were suckers that followed brand loyalty.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

So since most cover it up, what's the issue? You wouldn't even notice. :D

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Not a lot of glamour or gear offers back and neck exposure, so it's not like we cover up our Legacy marks on purpose. Trust me, I'd show it off every chance I got if I had gear that worked for that purpose.

I get the whole purpose of this thread is mocking the White Raven Earrings, except it ignores one key difference. The earrings were never meant to be exclusive, they simply became so because 1.x failed. The tattoo, meanwhile, exists solely for legacy players. It has no other purpose. Therefore, the two aren't equals.

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Originally Posted by rachcouture

I'd rather they just add tattoos and body scars in the character creation, honestly.

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Yeah tattoos in character creation would be a really nice thing and maybe a tattoo artist in game like our hair dude.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I get the whole purpose of this thread is mocking the White Raven Earrings, except it ignores one key difference. The earrings were never meant to be exclusive, they simply became so because 1.x failed. The tattoo, meanwhile, exists solely for legacy players. It has no other purpose. Therefore, the two aren't equals.

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I agree, the earrings are one thing but this goes a step to far. I would even say that this thread is simply to add fuel into the fire.

I'm surprised they just don't add all those old assets in the store by now, I mean it would be easy money for the people that buy everything. I mean people complain about these different things, but any time there is new content added that affects glam like hairstyles or cash show fashion items you see tons of people in Limsa with it for like a week or until their sub runs out/next content drop.

Then you might see 1/100 players wear it once. The excitement wears off, the next pay cheque comes and people re-sub for the next shiny thing. Make even more profit if it's asset recycling, you don't have to pay someone to design, model, code and put into the game a new asset. It works as long as people let it happen.

If they give out the Legacy Tattoo for anything other than being a Legacy player, I'll pitch a bitch. I have a lot of tolerance for items being given out after they've been stated to be limited-time-only, but that's one thing that needs to stay special.

let people have the jpeg no one sees on there back

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I get the whole purpose of this thread is mocking the White Raven Earrings

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I'm not mocking the earrings. I seriously want the legacy tattoo. One of my characters would look great with it, and his glam already would allow it to show.

Here's my suggestion: an event that actually works.

Rising 2019, enter an instance by talking to an NPC that randomly spawns for 30 mins in 1 of 50 locations throughout all of Eorzea. Once the NPC despawns it will respawn again at another location somewhere between 5-9 hours from despawn time (respawn timer is random time between 5:00:00 and 9:00:00 hours). Serious players will need to keep checking all 50 locations at regular intervals during the respawn window!
Once inside the instance take on FATEs that are spec'd for 100+ players to be present. These FATEs do not scale down if less players are present and they have a 15 min completion timer.
Gold gets you 20 tokens, silver gets you 10 tokens, and bronze gets you 5 tokens.
You need 999 tokens to buy tattoo.

Please look forward to it!

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Here's my suggestion: an event that actually works.

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This too please. That's an actual problem that shouldn't be happening.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Here's my suggestion: an event that actually works.

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The worst part is that GMs says that it works as intended.

No I strongly disagree with this because unlike the earrings or any other goodies from 1.0, that tattoo's sole purpose is to mark a player as a 1.0 character. It was designed to do only one thing and it should stay that way.

I dont like the Event, it getting worser with the new content SE release - i love this game, but right now ? nope!

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Originally Posted by Penthea

No I strongly disagree with this because unlike the earrings or any other goodies from 1.0, that tattoo's sole purpose is to mark a player as a 1.0 character. It was designed to do only one thing and it should stay that way.

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But the earrings could have marked a 1.0 character too.

And I mean, if they're concerned how common it'll get, just make it behind a random spawning npc again. :D I'll still try for it because it'll fit my alt's glam perfectly.

What i actually missed out from 1.0 was the titles earned during that time. Ah... if only I realized early and get that 'Notorious Monster Hunter' Title..

Jijifli, considering this thread has 8+ pages of responses, I doubt any of us are able to get through to why you, nor anyone who began an account once 2.0 started, will never get a legacy tattoo. /Sigh, let me see if I can explain, because I have nothing better to do right now other than try to wake up this morning.

In order to get a legacy tattoo, you had to have paid a full 3-month subscription during 1.0, which was waaay back in 2010. The mark symbolizes those who played in the world and survived the calamity. The developers were also apologetic and regretful about the poor state the game was in during this time and wanted to leave the characters with rewards, or thank-yous, for continuing to support them by playing the game during that time. This tattoo, among other perks, was the result of this statement.

I guess you could think of this one-time tattoo as a cool-looking scar? It would make a person look kind of strange if they asked, "Why can't I have that?" Or maybe you could think of it as a type of prize a person wins at a drawing, even though it's a bad comparison.

My point is that you cannot simply ask for this option for your character. There is a sole reason legacy players have this mark, and it would be a slap in the face for not only all players who experienced the calamity, but it would diminish the value of Square Enix's "thank-you" message to the players ...COMPLETELY. This is why everyone is upset with you asking for this.

I may be OK with the purchase of the tattoo...in a different color that distinguishes new vs calamity-survivors? MAYBE. But it's still controversial to discuss.

I'm pretty sure you are trolling, too, and my words are probably (again) falling on deaf ears... but if not, then one day you will understand.

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

Jijifli, considering this thread has 8+ pages of responses, I doubt any of us are able to get through to why you, nor anyone who began an account once 2.0 started, will never get a legacy tattoo. /Sigh, let me see if I can explain, because I have nothing better to do right now other than try to wake up this morning.

In order to get a legacy tattoo, you had to have paid a full 3-month subscription during 1.0, which was waaay back in 2010. The mark symbolizes those who played in the world and survived the calamity. The developers were also apologetic and regretful about the poor state the game was in during this time and wanted to leave the characters with rewards, or thank-yous, for continuing to support them by playing the game during that time. This tattoo, among other perks, was the result of this statement.

I guess you could think of this one-time tattoo as a cool-looking scar? It would make a person look kind of strange if they asked, "Why can't I have that?" Or maybe you could think of it as a type of prize a person wins at a drawing, even though it's a bad comparison.

My point is that you cannot simply ask for this option for your character. There is a sole reason legacy players have this mark, and it would be a slap in the face for not only all players who experienced the calamity, but it would diminish the value of Square Enix's "thank-you" message to the players ...COMPLETELY. This is why everyone is upset with you asking for this.

I may be OK with the purchase of the tattoo...in a different color that distinguishes new vs calamity-survivors? MAYBE. But it's still controversial to discuss.

I'm pretty sure you are trolling, too, and my words are probably (again) falling on deaf ears... but if not, then one day you will understand.

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But I was already told in the thread you didn't need a sub, just a character. I thought the 3 month reward was the lower sub cost, which would be rude to make for everyone.

And looking at it as a scar doesn't change my mind on it. My alt could still look amazing with it. Plus you all got to play with it for 5 years, why can't I get a turn?