so, why is SE support jobless people?

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

10-07-2017, 09:31 PM
Altena

Patches fall on weekly reset. SE announced release for "Early Oct" weeks and weeks ago. There are only two days that could have been. Plan ahead next time...

I work a rotating roster of days/nights. So does that mean SE doesn't support shift workers? Lawl...
10-07-2017, 09:53 PM
Crysten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keicho

shirogane will be avaiable after maintance. which will be 12:00 in EU time. well. i have to work there. so no chance for me to get a plot. realy fair. maybe i should risk my real job to get a plot there?^^ lul

So it's not an option for you to ask for time off or work from home?

This doesn't just support jobless people, it also supports those with jobs who had the foresight to make arrangements.

Bloody idiot.
10-07-2017, 10:04 PM
RegnumMagik

^^lul

/10chars
10-07-2017, 10:19 PM
Ilan

Quote:

Originally Posted by alimdia

Although that phrase has no place here, it does have a place in other areas of the game (centurio tiger, astrope, both designed for NEETs)

It is designed for long term and not for people without jobs. If the game would revolve around that, there would be no caps on tomes and no log outs in raids. Your assumption is as wrong as the OP one is. :rolleyes:
10-07-2017, 11:10 PM
Snow_Princess

They could avoid this issue by not having a housing shortage. They could also did more to address server population balance but they acted far too late on that. Then top it off the current incentives is not enough, they could make a new server and slap a RP label on it and let people transfer to free to it.

How come NA hasn't got a new data center to help with this issue?
10-07-2017, 11:15 PM
Ghastly

What they really need to do is lock housing to free companies with 5 or more people.
If people want their own place for themselves that's what apartments should be for.

Houses should be for free companies only.
10-07-2017, 11:17 PM
Snow_Princess

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghastly

What they really need to do is lock housing to free companies with 5 or more people.
If people want their own place for themselves that's what apartments should be for.

Houses should be for free companies only.

No, private housing should be a thing, you are only saying that because they do not give enough housing. That is on them, and not having enough data centers with population balance. Someone said there are servers with empty plots? or likely would have empty plots after 4.1 while high pop servers all be filled in 5-10 mins, so that is a clear issue.
10-08-2017, 01:00 AM
Rokke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

They could avoid this issue by not having a housing shortage. They could also did more to address server population balance but they acted far too late on that. Then top it off the current incentives is not enough, they could make a new server and slap a RP label on it and let people transfer to free to it.

How come NA hasn't got a new data center to help with this issue?

I don't think it would matter now even if they made an official rp server anymore. The problem with balmung is that people are so rooted in their communities. With all the incentives, the main one being a better chance at a house, we only lost a couple thousand at 4.0, and around half of those people have already been "replaced" by returning players (25k @pre-lock -> 21k @4.0 -> 23k @current).

The ghost town servers finally have some semblance of a population, a new DC full of new servers (RP or no) would be overkill.
10-08-2017, 01:09 AM
Pence

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

They could avoid this issue by not having a housing shortage. They could also did more to address server population balance but they acted far too late on that. Then top it off the current incentives is not enough, they could make a new server and slap a RP label on it and let people transfer to free to it.

How come NA hasn't got a new data center to help with this issue?

Please elaborate, I'd love to see how adding a new data center would fix population balance, RP or housing.
10-08-2017, 01:24 AM
Snow_Princess

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokke

I don't think it would matter now even if they made an official rp server anymore. The problem with balmung is that people are so rooted in their communities. With all the incentives, the main one being a better chance at a house, we only lost a couple thousand at 4.0, and around half of those people have already been "replaced" by returning players (25k @pre-lock -> 21k @4.0 -> 23k @current).

The ghost town servers finally have some semblance of a population, a new DC full of new servers (RP or no) would be overkill.

They did not do enough intensives soon enough. They really need a new server with a RP label on it, I am sure people will move. People moved to
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=Mateus
and took all the housing and i wasn't enough apparently as it seemed they filled fast.

It is not "overkill" when they completely lock out 2 servers from making new characters on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pence

Please elaborate, I'd love to see how adding a new data center would fix population balance, RP or housing.

um... I thought it was obvious? There isn't enough room for the housing shortage so we need a new server. How come EU got one but we didn't?
10-08-2017, 02:00 AM
Crysten

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

They did not do enough intensives soon enough. They really need a new server with a RP label on it, I am sure people will move. People moved to
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=Mateus
and took all the housing and i wasn't enough apparently as it seemed they filled fast.

I'm pretty sure the Mateus thing proved that people weren't willing to move. The amount of people stubbornly sticking to Balmung and then complaining they couldn't log in when Stormblood came out was proof enough of that.

SE offered preferred server moves as an option for a "new server" for the NA population - not their fault people weren't taking them up on the offer and no-one on Balmung seems too fussed about expanding their RP community outside of one server, especially with cross server chat coming in 4.1.
10-08-2017, 02:41 AM
Lissandra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crysten

I'm pretty sure the Mateus thing proved that people weren't willing to move. The amount of people stubbornly sticking to Balmung and then complaining they couldn't log in when Stormblood came out was proof enough of that.

SE offered preferred server moves as an option for a "new server" for the NA population - not their fault people weren't taking them up on the offer and no-one on Balmung seems too fussed about expanding their RP community outside of one server, especially with cross server chat coming in 4.1.

SE wouldn't have gotten into that mess if they had locked Balmung sooner from character creation "and" transfer ins. I've been on this server since it formed and slowly watched as Balmung became way over-saturated.
10-08-2017, 02:57 AM
Ametrine

The Lucky Bancho census had an unusual quirk in it's "active" player records in that JP datacenters have far more servers spread out with a lower population of players compared to the western regions. While they do have popular servers that have quadruple the population of these lowbie servers, it makes me wonder if having 15-ish servers with only a few thousand active players, most being Japanese, skews how SE sees the limited housing. I also don't know if JP players make good use of FC rooms and apartments, so it's just a theory.

I am on a middling pop server, I expect Shirogane and any relocated homes to be filled in a day or two of 4.1. There are wards with 2 or three apartments.

Really, if they could give us room sizes and multi-room layouts to apartments, housing wouldn't be an issue anymore since they have an instanced alternative in place. Ugh.
10-08-2017, 03:30 AM
Mikki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ametrine

Apartments don't get demo'd if you can't log in for months, and give you access to some of the housing utilities like the chocobo stable.

Seriously, they are instanced, unlimited, cheaper, and are yours forever.

Use them.

Actually, apartments aren't unlimited. My friend on Balmung was really unhappy because apparently you can't even get an apartment there; they're all full up! But as far as I know, that's the only server with that issue. I don't think any other server has filled out all apartment slots.
10-08-2017, 04:43 AM
Rokke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

They did not do enough intensives soon enough. They really need a new server with a RP label on it, I am sure people will move. People moved to
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=Mateus
and took all the housing and i wasn't enough apparently as it seemed they filled fast.
It is not "overkill" when they completely lock out 2 servers from making new characters on it.

um... I thought it was obvious? There isn't enough room for the housing shortage so we need a new server. How come EU got one but we didn't?

It took an expansion, a server lock, and the removal of the gil restriction to get people to play on mateus/zalera/goblin. From here on out, the population is only going to shrink as we lose slowly those who don’t get hooked when the SB hype dies down.

EU got new servers because existing EU servers’ populations were pretty evenly distributed and at risk of becoming overcrowded when SB launched. A new NA DC will end with new pre-lock mateus/zalera/goblins- ie. dead. We have enough servers, people simply do not want to move to them.

Mind you, I do agree that there aren't remotely enough houses per server. Adding a new server or DC and calling it a day will not solve the problem though.

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page